Re: Suggest a Gvim 7.3 new look

2010-07-06 Fir de Conversatie Tony Mechelynck
On 10/06/10 19:23, Linda W wrote: nico io wrote: Hi, I am currently using Gvim 7.2 rebuild with this new toolbar. I think : 1. Gvim has to improve its visual interface to seduce new users. 1.a I suggest the toolbar in 48px size border mixed with the existing menu => Gvim takes a new look AN

Re: Suggest a Gvim 7.3 new look

2010-06-12 Fir de Conversatie Mikolaj Machowski
On Saturday 12 June 2010 06:43:54 Bram Moolenaar wrote: > > > > It is an portable version of vim 7.2 (including runtime). Just extract it > > to any directory and run it from there (obviously windows only). > > I looked at that page but don't see what is different from normal Vim. > I'm not going

Re: Suggest a Gvim 7.3 new look

2010-06-11 Fir de Conversatie Bram Moolenaar
Thilo Six wrote: > Bram Moolenaar wrote the following on 08.06.2010 23:30 > > seem my first mail didn´t made it through. resending... > > > > > "usb key". Do you mean USB stick? Isn't that just another place to > > store files? > > > > If you mean you would like to store your Vim configurat

Re: Suggest a Gvim 7.3 new look

2010-06-11 Fir de Conversatie Erik Falor
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 05:24:01PM -0300, Kazuo Teramoto wrote: > I always used lftp with joy, but when they implemented bittorrent > support, I stopped using it. Why? Because its wrong for a ftp client > support a protocol completely divergent. And I know of lot of ppl that > stopped too, and its

Re: Suggest a Gvim 7.3 new look

2010-06-11 Fir de Conversatie Marc Weber
I've switched off toolbars for over two years - I never used them. They take away some of the screen. That's my preference. Anyway looking at this discussion I wonder whether we want customizable "themes" - the way you can customize Firefox and many other applications? Maybe there should be a :s

Re: Suggest a Gvim 7.3 new look

2010-06-11 Fir de Conversatie epanda
I am sorry to suggest to you the idea of improving toolbar. I didn't think that it cause so many discussions. In order to finish this thread, I just want to say : 1- I know emacs and opposed to its philosophy, in french I maybe be call it "une usine à gaz" (~gas plant ~complicated thing that do

Re: Suggest a Gvim 7.3 new look

2010-06-10 Fir de Conversatie Luis Carvalho
> >> Unix users usually are more minimalist, and vim users usually are more > >> unix like users. > > > > Sure, and these users are already covered, right? You can always use the > > terminal... That's not the point. > > > > Yes this is the point. > > So its ok to implement a email client/nttp re

Re: Suggest a Gvim 7.3 new look

2010-06-10 Fir de Conversatie Kazuo Teramoto
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Luis Carvalho wrote: > Of course, if you can always :set go-=T, then the toolbar is irrelevant for > you. The problem is not having a toolbar users don't like, but having a > toolbar that users enjoy. [snip] > >> Unix users usually are more minimalist, and vim use

Re: Suggest a Gvim 7.3 new look

2010-06-10 Fir de Conversatie Linda W
nico io wrote: Hi, I am currently using Gvim 7.2 rebuild with this new toolbar. I think : 1. Gvim has to improve its visual interface to seduce new users. 1.a I suggest the toolbar in 48px size border mixed with the existing menu => Gvim takes a new look AND you can attach your new vimscr

Re: Suggest a Gvim 7.3 new look

2010-06-10 Fir de Conversatie Luis Carvalho
> I dont think that vim is made to attract 'young people'. Its mean to > attract someone that need a powerful editor, not only developers but > people that edit plain text files in general. That is a different > niche. > > For 'young people' exist others editor more suitable to be "good looking".

Re: Suggest a Gvim 7.3 new look

2010-06-10 Fir de Conversatie Kazuo Teramoto
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:53 PM, epanda wrote: If Tony dont alerted me, I though this is another one not related to 'nico io'. I this list, usually people use real names. Or stick to only one nick. > > In the period we live in, with High Definition Wide Screen, I maintain > that 32 or 48px give a

Re: Suggest a Gvim 7.3 new look

2010-06-09 Fir de Conversatie epanda
I really thanks char101 to share my opinion that on windows Gvim which looks kind of old. I forgot to mention this detail => I am currently using gvim on Win32 OS, I have worked on Unix Solaris during 8 years too. I don't think we always have to separate powerful inner features of vim (that I love

Re: Suggest a Gvim 7.3 new look

2010-06-09 Fir de Conversatie char101
On Jun 9, 3:09 pm, Thilo Six wrote: > Maybe have a look at > this:http://portableapps.com/apps/development/gvim_portable Gvim on windows is already portable. The key is to add to vimrc: let $HOME=$VIM I layout gvim files like this vim/ - runtime/ - vimfiles/ - gvim.exe - vimrc - gvimrc - _vim

Re: Suggest a Gvim 7.3 new look

2010-06-09 Fir de Conversatie Thilo Six
Bram Moolenaar wrote the following on 08.06.2010 23:30 "usb key". Do you mean USB stick? Isn't that just another place to store files? If you mean you would like to store your Vim configuration in a way you can move it to other computers, that's indeed useful. But tricky to make work. Pro

Re: Suggest a Gvim 7.3 new look

2010-06-09 Fir de Conversatie char101
On Jun 9, 9:23 pm, Tony Mechelynck wrote: > Hm, just for the record, here is what gvim looks like under GTK2, with > the built-in icon set:http://users.skynet.be/antoine.mechelynck/vim/gvim.png > > I guess these "beautiful" icons are part of the reason why I feel no > pressing urge to change them.

RE: Suggest a Gvim 7.3 new look

2010-06-09 Fir de Conversatie Steve Hall
From: Tony Mechelynck, Wed, June 09, 2010 10:23 am > On 09/06/10 11:28, char101 wrote: > > On Jun 9, 2:08 am, nico io wrote: > > > > > > I am currently using Gvim 7.2 rebuild with this new toolbar. [...] > Hm, just for the record, here is what gvim looks like under GTK2, with > the built-in icon

Re: Suggest a Gvim 7.3 new look

2010-06-09 Fir de Conversatie Tony Mechelynck
On 09/06/10 11:28, char101 wrote: On Jun 9, 2:08 am, nico io wrote: Hi, I am currently using Gvim 7.2 rebuild with this new toolbar. I think : 1. Gvim has to improve its visual interface to seduce new users. Hi, Speaking about improving gvim interface (at least for gvim on windows), I have

Re: Suggest a Gvim 7.3 new look

2010-06-09 Fir de Conversatie char101
On Jun 9, 2:08 am, nico io wrote: > Hi, > > I am currently using Gvim 7.2 rebuild with this new toolbar. > I think : > 1. Gvim has to improve its visual interface to seduce new users. Hi, Speaking about improving gvim interface (at least for gvim on windows), I have patched gui_w32.c to... - usi

Re: Suggest a Gvim 7.3 new look

2010-06-08 Fir de Conversatie Tony Mechelynck
On 08/06/10 21:08, nico io wrote: Hi, Hi. I don't know why you're suddenly "nico io" after having been "epanda" — and neither name sounds authentic — but I don't mind. I think that your proposal is serious and, as a sign of respect from someone who doesn't share your opinions in this domain,

Re: Suggest a Gvim 7.3 new look

2010-06-08 Fir de Conversatie Bram Moolenaar
Nico Io wrote: > I am currently using Gvim 7.2 rebuild with this new toolbar. > I think : > 1. Gvim has to improve its visual interface to seduce new users. > 1.a I suggest the toolbar in 48px size border mixed with the > existing menu => Gvim takes a new look AND you can attach your