RE: Rules for replying to posts on this list (Was: Easiest way to insert a blank line?)

2009-01-12 Thread Gene Kwiecinski
>>Rather than optimising how people post, I >>would be happy simply to stop the recent flood of lazy top posting. >I don't know how other mail clients behave when it comes to hiding >various elements of messages, but for what it's worth: Wellp, in general, unless a top-posted post is somethi

[OT] Configuring Opera (was Re: Easiest way to insert a blank line?)

2009-01-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 06:52:44AM -0800, Ben Fritz wrote: > On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:41:45 +0800, Tony Mechelynck wrote: > It would be opera:config. I use the Opera web browser at home, but > I've never been impressed with the mail client. Anyway, opera:config > has a search option that will hide a

RE: Easiest way to insert a blank line?

2009-01-10 Thread John Beckett
Chris Bannister wrote: > I did not write that. Sorry, but I don't think I misrepresented anyone, if my understanding of quoting is accepted. Suppose I am replying to JCitizen and my message is: JCitizen wrote: >> > That means that JCitizen wrote "" in reply to someone

Re: Rules for replying to posts on this list (Was: Easiest way to insert a blank line?)

2009-01-10 Thread BC
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 5:09 AM, John Beckett wrote: > Rather than optimising how people post, I > would be happy simply to stop the recent flood of lazy top posting. > Me too. I don't know how other mail clients behave when it comes to hiding various elements of messages, but for what it's

Re: Easiest way to insert a blank line?

2009-01-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 05:42:42PM +1100, John Beckett wrote: > > Chris Bannister wrote: > >> * Remove any email addresses (do not quote the email address of > >> the person to whom you are replying). I did not write that. > > I don't understand this. If you can scan the body, you can > > scan

Re: Rules for replying to posts on this list (Was: Easiest way to insert a blank line?)

2009-01-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 10:00:51AM -0500, Marvin Renich wrote: > Inter-posting (or interleaved posting) *is* bottom posting[0]. Bottom [..] > [0] http://mailformat.dan.info/quoting/bottom-posting.html No! Bottom posting is just jumping to the end of the message and typing your reply. Proper quot

Re: Easiest way to insert a blank line?

2009-01-09 Thread Antony Scriven
or whatever Opera calls it, I'm no Opera guru)? > > > > It would be opera:config. [...] > > If filtering on "address" leads nothing useful, [...] Wtf has any of this got to do with the `Easiest way to insert a blank line?'? C'mon dudes, with the collect

Re: Easiest way to insert a blank line?

2009-01-09 Thread Tony Mechelynck
On 09/01/09 15:52, Ben Fritz wrote: > > > On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:41:45 +0800, Tony Mechelynck wrote: > >> Have you tried the about:config page (or opera:config or whatever Opera >> calls it, I'm no Opera guru)? > > It would be opera:config. I use the Opera web browser at home, but > I've never bee

Re: Easiest way to insert a blank line?

2009-01-09 Thread Yue Wu
On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:52:44 +0800, Ben Fritz wrote: > > > > On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:41:45 +0800, Tony Mechelynck wrote: > >> Have you tried the about:config page (or opera:config or whatever Opera >> calls it, I'm no Opera guru)? > > It would be opera:config. I use the Opera web browser at home,

Re: Easiest way to insert a blank line?

2009-01-09 Thread Ben Fritz
On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:41:45 +0800, Tony Mechelynck wrote: > Have you tried the about:config page (or opera:config or whatever Opera > calls it, I'm no Opera guru)? It would be opera:config. I use the Opera web browser at home, but I've never been impressed with the mail client. Anyway, opera:

Re: Easiest way to insert a blank line?

2009-01-09 Thread Yue Wu
On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:41:45 +0800, Tony Mechelynck wrote: > > Have you tried the about:config page (or opera:config or whatever Opera > calls it, I'm no Opera guru)? > > I don't think they are there. -- Regards, Van. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this mes

Re: Easiest way to insert a blank line?

2009-01-09 Thread Tony Mechelynck
On 09/01/09 09:16, Yue Wu wrote: > On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:40:13 +0800, Chris Bannister wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 01:03:39PM +0800, Yue Wu wrote: >>> On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:16:26 +0800, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 03:55:49PM +1100, John Beckett wrote: > * Remov

Re: Easiest way to insert a blank line?

2009-01-09 Thread Yue Wu
On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:40:13 +0800, Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 01:03:39PM +0800, Yue Wu wrote: >> On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:16:26 +0800, Chris Bannister wrote: >> > On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 03:55:49PM +1100, John Beckett wrote: >> >> * Remove any email addresses (do not quote

Re: Rules for replying to posts on this list (Was: Easiest way to insert a blank line?)

2009-01-08 Thread Tony Mechelynck
On 09/01/09 07:40, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 04:20:37AM +0100, Tony Mechelynck wrote: >> On 05/01/09 05:55, John Beckett wrote: >>> * Use BOTTOM POSTING (quote a few lines that you are replying to, and >>> put your reply underneath). >> Inter-posting (like this) is even bett

Re: Easiest way to insert a blank line?

2009-01-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 01:03:39PM +0800, Yue Wu wrote: > On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:16:26 +0800, Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 03:55:49PM +1100, John Beckett wrote: > >> * Remove any email addresses (do not quote the email address of the > >> person to whom you are replying). > >

Re: Rules for replying to posts on this list (Was: Easiest way to insert a blank line?)

2009-01-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 04:20:37AM +0100, Tony Mechelynck wrote: > > On 05/01/09 05:55, John Beckett wrote: > > * Use BOTTOM POSTING (quote a few lines that you are replying to, and > > put your reply underneath). > > Inter-posting (like this) is even better, but harder, and (I think) will > no

Re: Rules for replying to posts on this list (Was: Easiest way to insert a blank line?)

2009-01-07 Thread Tony Mechelynck
On 07/01/09 09:24, Tom Link wrote: >>> Inter-posting (like this) is even better, but harder, and >>> (I think) will not be enforced. >> [...] >> (but I won't try to promote inter-posting). > > IIRC there is a rfc about quoting (maybe it's part of the netiquette) > and "inter-posting" is widely con

Re: Rules for replying to posts on this list (Was: Easiest way to insert a blank line?)

2009-01-07 Thread bill lam
On Wed, 07 Jan 2009, Marvin Renich wrote: > > * Tom Link [090107 03:29]: > > > > > > Inter-posting (like this) is even better, but harder, and > > > > (I think) will not be enforced. > > > > > > [...] > > > (but I won't try to promote inter-posting). > > > > IIRC there is a rfc about quoting (m

Re: Rules for replying to posts on this list (Was: Easiest way to insert a blank line?)

2009-01-07 Thread Marvin Renich
* Tom Link [090107 03:29]: > > > > Inter-posting (like this) is even better, but harder, and > > > (I think) will not be enforced. > > > > [...] > > (but I won't try to promote inter-posting). > > IIRC there is a rfc about quoting (maybe it's part of the netiquette) > and "inter-posting" is wide

Re: Easiest way to insert a blank line?

2009-01-07 Thread Efraim Yawitz
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 5:08 AM, Tony Mechelynck wrote: > To insert an empty line and remain in Normal mode, without going to > Insert mode and back: > >below current line: >:put ='' Was I the only one who misunderstood the two single quotes and thought it was one double

Re: Rules for replying to posts on this list (Was: Easiest way to insert a blank line?)

2009-01-07 Thread Luc Hermitte
Hello, "Tom Link" wrote: > IIRC there is a rfc about quoting (maybe it's part of the netiquette) > and "inter-posting" is widely considered good practice. IMHO the > function of a quote is to make clear what you're referring to not to > repeat what has been said. Sven Guckes used to maintain a

RE: Rules for replying to posts on this list (Was: Easiest way to insert a blank line?)

2009-01-07 Thread John Beckett
Tom Link wrote: > I think "inter-posting" should be promoted. Most new users > will continue to use the Internet and sooner or later they > will most likely be asked (more or less friendly) to change > their quoting style anyway. > > Maybe the vim-information page on google groups should be > spli

Re: Rules for replying to posts on this list (Was: Easiest way to insert a blank line?)

2009-01-07 Thread Tom Link
> > Inter-posting (like this) is even better, but harder, and > > (I think) will not be enforced. > > [...] > (but I won't try to promote inter-posting). IIRC there is a rfc about quoting (maybe it's part of the netiquette) and "inter-posting" is widely considered good practice. IMHO the function

RE: Easiest way to insert a blank line?

2009-01-06 Thread John Beckett
Chris Bannister wrote: >> * Remove any email addresses (do not quote the email address of >> the person to whom you are replying). > > I don't understand this. If you can scan the body, you can > scan the headers, or am I missing something? If a spammer subscribes to the list, then yes, they can

Re: Easiest way to insert a blank line?

2009-01-06 Thread Yue Wu
On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:16:26 +0800, Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 03:55:49PM +1100, John Beckett wrote: >> FOR NEW SUBSCRIBERS on this mailing list: >> >> * Thanks for joining, we like the company ... BUT: >> * No signature/disclaimer/waffle attachments please (an attachment

Re: Easiest way to insert a blank line?

2009-01-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 03:55:49PM +1100, John Beckett wrote: > FOR NEW SUBSCRIBERS on this mailing list: > > * Thanks for joining, we like the company ... BUT: > * No signature/disclaimer/waffle attachments please (an attachment for a > patch, for example, is fine). > * Trim waffle from the mess

Re: Rules for replying to posts on this list (Was: Easiest way to insert a blank line?)

2009-01-06 Thread Raúl Núñez de Arenas Coronado
Saluton Tony :) On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:20:37 +0100, Tony Mechelynck dixit: > > * Remove any email addresses (do not quote the email address of the > > person to whom you are replying). > > Note that Bram always _adds_ the email address of the author of the > mail to which he is replying to the T

RE: Rules for replying to posts on this list (Was: Easiest way to insert a blank line?)

2009-01-05 Thread John Beckett
Tony Mechelynck wrote: >> * No signature/disclaimer/waffle attachments please (an >> attachment for a patch, for example, is fine). > > Why no signature? Or maybe you meant no sig _attachment_? Yes, I was trying to say "no junk attachment" (the message I was replying to had a .gif file as an atta

Re: Easiest way to insert a blank line?

2009-01-05 Thread Tony Mechelynck
On 05/01/09 04:42, Tim Chase wrote: [...] > As an aside, somewhere I picked up this little shorthand for this > pair of commands: > > :put_ > :put!_ Reading the black hole register! Of course! Now why didn't I think of that? Yet I do use "cp /dev/null filename" in the shell (and I learnt

Rules for replying to posts on this list (Was: Easiest way to insert a blank line?)

2009-01-05 Thread Tony Mechelynck
On 05/01/09 05:55, John Beckett wrote: > FOR NEW SUBSCRIBERS on this mailing list: > > * Thanks for joining, we like the company ... BUT: > * No signature/disclaimer/waffle attachments please (an attachment for a > patch, for example, is fine). Why no signature? Or maybe you meant no sig _attachm

RE: Easiest way to insert a blank line?

2009-01-04 Thread John Beckett
FOR NEW SUBSCRIBERS on this mailing list: * Thanks for joining, we like the company ... BUT: * No signature/disclaimer/waffle attachments please (an attachment for a patch, for example, is fine). * Trim waffle from the message you are replying to. * Use BOTTOM POSTING (quote a few lines that you

Re: Easiest way to insert a blank line?

2009-01-04 Thread Max Waterman
Tony Mechelynck wrote: > On 05/01/09 04:11, Aman Jain wrote: >> thanks for the reply tony, but this was not easiest :) > > Depends what you call "easiest". I think "the easiest" is o (below > current line) or O (above current line), but you said you > specifically did not want that. If one key

Re: Easiest way to insert a blank line?

2009-01-04 Thread Tim Chase
> To insert an empty line and remain in Normal mode, without going to > Insert mode and back: > > below current line: > :put ='' > above current line: > :.-1put ='' As an aside, somewhere I picked up this little shorthand for this pair of commands: :

Re: Easiest way to insert a blank line?

2009-01-04 Thread Tony Mechelynck
On 05/01/09 04:11, Aman Jain wrote: > thanks for the reply tony, but this was not easiest :) Depends what you call "easiest". I think "the easiest" is o (below current line) or O (above current line), but you said you specifically did not want that. If one key (F5, once you've set it up once a

Re: Easiest way to insert a blank line?

2009-01-04 Thread Aman Jain
thanks for the reply tony, but this was not easiest :) On Jan 5, 8:08 am, Tony Mechelynck wrote: > On 05/01/09 03:31, Aman Jain wrote: > > > Is there a quicker way to insert a blank line, than by doing 'o'->ESC > > > Thanks > > Aman Jain > > To insert an empty line and remain in Normal mode, wit

Re: Easiest way to insert a blank line?

2009-01-04 Thread Tony Mechelynck
On 05/01/09 03:31, Aman Jain wrote: > Is there a quicker way to insert a blank line, than by doing 'o'->ESC > > Thanks > Aman Jain To insert an empty line and remain in Normal mode, without going to Insert mode and back: below current line: :put ='' above current

Re: Easiest way to insert a blank line?

2009-01-04 Thread Tim Chase
> Is there a quicker way to insert a blank line, than by doing 'o'->ESC Not exactly, but vim makes it easy to map. I personally don't use for its intended purpose, so I remap it to do precisely what you describe (along with "-" as the analogue): :nnoremap o :nnoremap - O to put a bla

Re: Easiest way to insert a blank line?

2009-01-04 Thread Aman Jain
Suppose there's no blank line already!! On Jan 5, 7:59 am, Alick Guo wrote: > Perhaps you want to insert multi blank line , you can copy a blank line an > than paste it for multi-times OR you can also use "Record" to doing 'o' > ->ESC for multi-times. > > Anyway if "A" blank line is what you wan

Re: Easiest way to insert a blank line?

2009-01-04 Thread Alick Guo
Perhaps you want to insert multi blank line , you can copy a blank line an than paste it for multi-times OR you can also use "Record" to doing 'o' ->ESC for multi-times. Anyway if "A" blank line is what you want , plz forget above. [?] On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Aman Jain wrote: > > Is the

Easiest way to insert a blank line?

2009-01-04 Thread Aman Jain
Is there a quicker way to insert a blank line, than by doing 'o'->ESC Thanks Aman Jain --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message from the "vim_use" maillist. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php -~--~~~~--~~-