Re: Typing numbers

2011-02-10 Thread AK
On 02/10/2011 01:04 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 18:10, AK wrote: http://www.dealextreme.com/p/usb-to-ps-2-cable-adapter-15cm-length-45594 I have two or three of those, they are very hit and miss. Some work with some keyboards. The real $15 ones do more than just match el

Re: Typing numbers

2011-02-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 18:10, AK wrote: > European sellers never have m-models? > I haven't seen one. > re: the adapter, that sort of thing is best to buy from cheap chinese > sites that ship free worldwide, e.g.: > > http://www.dealextreme.com/p/usb-to-ps-2-cable-adapter-15cm-length-45594 > I

Re: Typing numbers

2011-02-10 Thread AK
On 02/10/2011 04:20 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 22:30, AK wrote: Sometimes (often?) clicky m-models are sold on ebay. I bought a lot of 9 about 10 years ago and they still work great even though they were made in '84! I paid ~$25 for the lot. They're regular layout, not ergono

Re: Typing numbers

2011-02-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 22:30, AK wrote: > Sometimes (often?) clicky m-models are sold on ebay. I bought a lot > of 9 about 10 years ago and they still work great even though they > were made in '84! I paid ~$25 for the lot. They're regular layout, > not ergonomic, though, but I don't mind that.  -

Re: Typing numbers

2011-02-08 Thread AK
On 02/08/2011 06:32 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 21:48, AK wrote: Did you ever try ibm "clicky" m-model? Yes, years ago. I'd love to find one, but it's been at least a decade. I almost bought a clone just a few months ago, but instead I ordered this: http://www.trulyergonomi

Re: Typing numbers

2011-02-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 02:26, Chris Jones wrote: > On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 05:08:36AM EST, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> Here's a closeup photo of the cutting of the silicon domes. > > Hello Dotan, > > Thanks much for this pic and the other. Till I saw it I honestly had no > clue what you meant.. I though

Re: Typing numbers

2011-02-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 21:48, AK wrote: > Did you ever try ibm "clicky" m-model? > Yes, years ago. I'd love to find one, but it's been at least a decade. I almost bought a clone just a few months ago, but instead I ordered this: http://www.trulyergonomic.com/ I'm still waiting for it, it was sup

Re: Typing numbers

2011-02-07 Thread Chris Jones
On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 05:08:36AM EST, Dotan Cohen wrote: > Here's a closeup photo of the cutting of the silicon domes. Hello Dotan, Thanks much for this pic and the other. Till I saw it I honestly had no clue what you meant.. I thought there was something like a rubber nipple in there and you w

Re: Typing numbers

2011-02-07 Thread AK
On 02/07/2011 04:57 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 05:21, Chris Jones wrote: I took a file to the F, J, 4, 8, F4, and F8 keys on the keyboard to help find them faster. Interesting.. But shouldn't it be 4& 7 rather than 4& 8..? No, it might be personal preference but I like

Re: Typing numbers

2011-02-01 Thread Chris Jones
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 05:52:59AM EST, John Little wrote: > In the spirit of this thread, I'll bite... > > Chris said: > > There's only so much can fit under my skull.. > I don't believe that limit is relevant; there's only a few hundred vim > commands, if you use them you'll remember them. S

Re: Typing numbers

2011-02-01 Thread Chris Jones
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 09:03:03AM EST, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 16:18, adroid28 wrote: [..] > > Or is it that with time I will be able to reach the numbers row > > without looking? > > > > I took a file to the F, J, 4, 8, F4, and F8 keys on the keyboard to > help find them

Re: Typing numbers

2011-01-30 Thread ZyX
Reply to message «Re: Typing numbers», sent 01:55:03 31 January 2011, Monday by adroid28: > Thanks for the advice but I have a macbook so I wouldn't want to do that > to it.. :) If I was using an external keyboard I would definitely do the > painting part. I think that would he

Re: Typing numbers

2011-01-30 Thread adroid28
omizing the less you can work on any system you happen upon and I wouldn't want that for keyboard skills... D. -- View this message in context: http://vim.1045645.n5.nabble.com/Typing-numbers-tp3361514p3363830.html Sent from the Vim - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- You recei

Re: Typing numbers

2011-01-30 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 16:18, adroid28 wrote: > > Hi all :) > > I am fairly new in vim and also my touch typing is not that great. > Although I can deal very well with all the vim commands I found my self > always looking down when I need to write a number argument. I was > wondering wether there

Re: Typing numbers

2011-01-30 Thread Tim Chase
On 01/30/11 04:52, John Little wrote: There's only so much can fit under my skull.. I don't believe that limit is relevant; there's only a few hundred vim commands, if you use them you'll remember them. Now settable *options* ... ;-) -tim -- You received this message from the "vim_use" mai

Re: Typing numbers

2011-01-30 Thread John Little
In the spirit of this thread, I'll bite... Chris said: > There's only so much can fit under my skull.. I don't believe that limit is relevant; there's only a few hundred vim commands, if you use them you'll remember them. > ... and I prefer to stick with a limited subset of keyboard actions > th

Re: Typing numbers

2011-01-28 Thread Chris Jones
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:28:27PM EST, Ben Schmidt wrote: >> [*] you can add more than one character, so if you wanted, you could >> get fancy with something like >> >> 40i-= >> >> to get a nice row of 80 characters like "-=-=-=-...=-=-=-=" but again >> you then have to do the math and divide dow

Re: Typing numbers

2011-01-28 Thread AK
On 01/28/2011 10:53 PM, Chris Jones wrote: On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 05:35:02PM EST, Tim Chase wrote: I concur that prefixing Vim normal mode commands with a count, such as ‘7dw’ to delete the next seven words is ineffective.. Something like ‘dw’ where you delete the next word (dw) and repeat

Re: Typing numbers

2011-01-28 Thread Ben Schmidt
[*] you can add more than one character, so if you wanted, you could get fancy with something like 40i-= to get a nice row of 80 characters like "-=-=-=-...=-=-=-=" but again you then have to do the math and divide down. Not grievous, but I can count the real-world times I've done that on one h

Re: Typing numbers

2011-01-28 Thread Chris Jones
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:12:10PM EST, Ben Schmidt wrote: > Hehe. Since we're sharing...If I were fixing 'rememberiing', I probably > would have done: > > /iix > > No need to count, and no need to watch what I'm doing to know when to > stop repeatedly pushing something either. I do this a lot. If

Re: Typing numbers

2011-01-28 Thread Tim Chase
On 01/28/2011 09:53 PM, Chris Jones wrote: On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 05:35:02PM EST, Tim Chase wrote: This breaks when using t/T with ";" to repeat the motion as it just finds the same one you just found. I have to break down and count for those :) Another reason why I don't use t/T (and don't

Re: Typing numbers

2011-01-28 Thread Ben Schmidt
There's only so much can fit under my skull.. and I prefer to stick with a limited subset of keyboard actions that may not be the quickest and most efficient for all occasions.. but that I can use without hesitation or incurring any overhead rememberiing. Namely that if the cursor is at the beginn

Re: Typing numbers

2011-01-28 Thread Chris Jones
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 05:35:02PM EST, Tim Chase wrote: >> I concur that prefixing Vim normal mode commands with a count, such as >> ‘7dw’ to delete the next seven words is ineffective.. Something like >> ‘dw’ where you delete the next word (dw) and repeat the last command >> (.) a number of t

Re: Typing numbers

2011-01-28 Thread Tim Chase
I concur that prefixing Vim normal mode commands with a count, such as ‘7dw’ to delete the next seven words is ineffective.. Something like ‘dw’ where you delete the next word (dw) and repeat the last command (.) a number of times is the way I normally do it because I don't have to count the w

Re: Typing numbers

2011-01-28 Thread Chris Jones
I was > wondering wether there is a way in vim to input numbers without leaving > the home row. Or is it that with time I will be able to reach the numbers > row without looking? If you think you can benefit by others' mistakes you may find some notes & practical advice re: typing

Re: Typing numbers

2011-01-28 Thread adroid28
Thank you both for your answers :) Tim this is excellent advice! Using text-objects is really amazing especially the "i" which I will be using constantly when dealing with code! Thanks! Dionysis -- View this message in context: http://vim.1045645.n5.nabble.com/Typi

Re: Typing numbers

2011-01-28 Thread Tim Chase
zontally in the line, so I almost never use h/l to move left/right. Some places to read up: :help text-object :h f and in general, all of :help motion.txt will provide you with an abundance of motions that minimize the need for counting things and typing numbers. -tim -- You recei

Re: Typing numbers

2011-01-28 Thread Daryl Lee
On 1/28/2011 7:18 AM, adroid28 wrote: Hi all :) I am fairly new in vim and also my touch typing is not that great. Although I can deal very well with all the vim commands I found my self always looking down when I need to write a number argument. I was wondering wether there is a way in vim to

Typing numbers

2011-01-28 Thread adroid28
row. Or is it that with time I will be able to reach the numbers row without looking? Best Dionysis -- View this message in context: http://vim.1045645.n5.nabble.com/Typing-numbers-tp3361514p3361514.html Sent from the Vim - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- You received this