Ok, for the electrical wattage, I thougt idea of making a IIci into a
router/server for me would be a great learning experience for me since
someone was so very kind to point out the website for me to go print all
the instructions.
However, I got a bit dismayed when all the talk about cost of
On Saturday, Feb 8, 2003, at 08:14 Europe/London, carolyn a atkinson
wrote:
I have a LCIII that I keep on all the time because the color
goes out, and I do not know at this time if it is hardware or software,
Do you mean that when you turn it off, leave and turn it back on later
the screen
OK, since no one else had any suggestion (besides Pickle) I shall try again
I tried to use the System Suitcase from the Disk Tools (Disk 6 of 6, none
of the others I have (2-5) have a System Suitcase/Folder) from System 7.0.1
to make a start-up disk for some of my older Macs. So far its a no go.
Steve Conrad wrote:
Of course, then you get into the Should I try Linux or MacOS on 'em for
that...
- Be a masochist and do it with A/UX :P
can you put A/UX on to a flat pac mac?...
i was under the impression i'd need something a little more powerful...
thats why i havent tried it
--- Marten van de Kraats [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
clip
I discovered that the problems I used to have with
the asante card in
my LC disappeared after I started using a dayna
communications card
in this machine. My OS X iMac can now handle any
amount of files my
LC running System 6 throws
What would be neat is an operating system that would
boot a Mac and turn it into a remotely administered
NAS or Network Attached Storage box. Plug some
insanely
large capacity hard drive into an LCIII or newer FPM
then connect it via ethernet to your LAN so all
your other 'puters no matter what
On Saturday, Feb 8, 2003, at 02:27 Europe/London, Scott Holder wrote:
At 12:54 AM 2/8/2003 +0100, you wrote:
We need to get the fun back into this list. ...
So tell us, why do you like flat pack macs so much? Do you have
experience with other kinds of Macs?
Marten
I love them because
On Saturday, Feb 8, 2003, at 07:10 Europe/London, Steve Conrad wrote:
Of course, then you get into the Should I try Linux or MacOS on 'em
for
that...
- Be a masochist and do it with A/UX :P
Sadly, and this really pisses me off, A/UX doesn't run on LCs.
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On Saturday, Feb 8, 2003, at 09:58 Europe/London, iriXx wrote:
Steve Conrad wrote:
Of course, then you get into the Should I try Linux or MacOS on 'em
for
that...
- Be a masochist and do it with A/UX :P
can you put A/UX on to a flat pac mac?...
Narr... damn annoying it is too. It
Mark Benson wrote:
Not only that, but I quite literally found it on the side of the road.
I got 14 LCs, a IIcx, a 660av and a 7100 LoBo (now in the IIcx) all for
GBP40 (which was mostly for the 660av) + GBP13.50 carriage.
i met someone last night who told me they had 20 LCs thrown away
Robert Patterson has been re-instated. I have spoken to him at length
off-list and he has calmed down and made a mends for his actions.
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--- carolyn a atkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
to run it. I have a LCIII that I keep on all the
time because the color
goes out, and I do not know at this time if it is
hardware or software,
How about the clock setting when you shut it down
and unplug it? Might just need a PRAM battery.
Mark Benson wrote:
can you put A/UX on to a flat pac mac?...
Narr... damn annoying it is too. It won't run on AV Quardas either
which is equally annoying as they are about the fastest 68k Macs about,
well the 840av certainly is, the 660av certainly runs faster than the
LC475 in 8.1.
--- Mark Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Get a clutch of 040MCs and upgrade them then you can
try something like
Linux or BSD on them. As a rule Unix doesn't line
LC040s because of the FPU error/lack of FPU.
While it can be compiled to run on an LC040, it only
works on some of them. I bet
--- iriXx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i met someone last night who told me they had 20 LCs
thrown away in
their dumpster last week... sadly he couldnt carry
them :(... although
he did retrieve me something i've always wanted - a
R4000 SGI Indigo...
G THREW AWAY an R4000 Indigo???
On Saturday, Feb 8, 2003, at 13:55 Europe/London, iriXx wrote:
It runs well on an 030, even the SE/30. I have run it on a IIci quite
successfully. Now what I REALLY want is a version of A/UX that'll run
on a 7100/80, that'd really confuse the nutz off people who see my
7100cx :D. I am most
Gregg Eshelman wrote:
G THREW AWAY an R4000 Indigo??? Baka!
So what if it is around 10 years old.
... oh yeah...
the other thing he found in their dump a few years back
a working apple Lisa... !!!
he's the only person i've met who has one...
m~
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www.iriXx.org
On Saturday, Feb 8, 2003, at 14:06 Europe/London, Gregg Eshelman wrote:
--- Mark Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Get a clutch of 040MCs and upgrade them then you can
try something like
Linux or BSD on them. As a rule Unix doesn't line
LC040s because of the FPU error/lack of FPU.
While it
I guess I'm not very conservation minded. I can't get upset over a few
watts of electricity while all of the suburban moms are driving 8000
pound, 10mpg Excursions with one passenger inside. So I pick and choose
my conservation efforts. I drive a small good gas mileage truck but I
don't
On Saturday, February 8, 2003, at 01:31 PM, Steve Conrad
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I tried to use the System Suitcase from the Disk Tools (Disk 6 of 6,
none
of the others I have (2-5) have a System Suitcase/Folder) from System
7.0.1
to make a start-up disk for some of my older Macs. So
On Saturday, February 8, 2003, at 02:01 AM, Marten van de Kraats
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am not sure this topic come up on the compact or the vintage mac
list, but some time ago there was a discussion about problems with
copying from older Macs to newer Macs running OS X. During appletalk
At 02:51 PM 2/8/2003 +, you wrote:
Any exterior physical difference between an LC040
that linux will run on (albeit poorly) and one it
won't run on at all?
I know for a fact BSD will run until it encounters an FPU call then it
Kernel Panics and dies. :)
I don't know if Linux has a work
On Saturday, Feb 8, 2003, at 16:27 Europe/London, Scott Holder wrote:
Linux itself has FPU emulation, which is why it can work on thinks
like a
486SX and such. However, a lot of the LC040s not only don't have an
FPU,
but are bugged in such a way that FPU emulation like Linux's or SoftFPU
I know for a fact BSD will run until it encounters an FPU call then it
Kernel Panics and dies. :)
I don't know if Linux has a work round for it.
probably if there isnt, if you post to usenet at linux.debian.68k or
somewhere - or even the kernel developers list, linux.kernel, they might
Any exterior physical difference between an LC040
that linux will run on (albeit poorly) and one it
won't run on at all?
I know for a fact BSD will run until it encounters an FPU call then it
Kernel Panics and dies. :)
This isn't quite true. On one of the truly defective LC's (a known
awww wow... thanx :) yeah its my dream machine, i've wanted one for ages...
its gonna be my server here, and wireless node... 32 grand ... whoaaa...
i know they're expensive but i didnt know it would have been that much!
used to be a mailserver at my friend's work...
macs are cute, thats why i
Linux itself has FPU emulation, which is why it can work on thinks like a
486SX and such. However, a lot of the LC040s not only don't have an FPU,
but are bugged in such a way that FPU emulation like Linux's or SoftFPU
just plain won't work. I don't understand the logistics of it, but
right... i wonder, would it run on a Powerbook Duo230? that is my other
machine at the moment - i have it and a LC III, i've thought about
putting Linux on them but im really more inclined to stick with the
Apple OS's - i've got enough linux boxen as it is! :-)
Why not try NetBSD?
Cameron Kaiser wrote:
Why not try NetBSD?
http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/mac68k/
I don't think the Duo is supported, but the LC3 is. It's much more mature
than Linux on the Mac68k -- it's been around since the early 1990s when it
started as MacBSD.
can you actually still get copies
I don't think the Duo is supported, but the LC3 is. It's much more mature
than Linux on the Mac68k -- it's been around since the early 1990s when it
started as MacBSD.
can you actually still get copies of MacBSD?
Not MacBSD as such -- the codebase was absorbed into NetBSD and became
its
http://www.macbsd.org/macbsd/
Er,
http://www.macbsd.com/macbsd/
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I had an uncle get into some legal troubles by dumpster diving. His
situation was a little different as he was working for a manufacturer - thus
his action was viewed as stealing product that was discarded because it was
unprofitable and introducing it into the market. He didn't have criminal
Hmm, how do you tell if an ethernet connection is
running at full or half duplex on old Macs, or even
new ones?
I remember installing a pci ethetnet card in a newer Mac once that
came with a control panel allowing some control over this stuff.
Marten
--
OK, since no one else had any suggestion (besides Pickle) I shall try again
I tried to use the System Suitcase from the Disk Tools (Disk 6 of 6, none
of the others I have (2-5) have a System Suitcase/Folder) from System 7.0.1
to make a start-up disk for some of my older Macs. So far its a no go.
--- Mark Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The bug occurs on those LC040s that have the error
in the FPU set, it
somehow conflicts with the existing FPU system and
causes the system to
crash because technically speaking it does have an
FPU.
Probably because the 68k Linux authors haven't
--- Terry Ovans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just bought another Macintosh computer, minus the
hard drive, and am wondering where the best deal can
be found for a hard drive somewhere between 500Mb
and 4 Gb for this machine. It takes the 50 pin SCSI
hard drive.
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