Re: Mac LC II help needed/Update!

2002-05-24 Thread Steven
I received the 475 yesterday. The computer still would not boot via the switchbox. I reattached the 13" monitor, and set the monitors cotrol panel to 16 colors (I wonder if I missed this on the LC II?). I re-booted the Mac. I than hooked the 475 to the switch-box, took a deep breath, and re-bo

Re: LC to VGA - add. remark (was: Mac LC II help needed)

2002-05-16 Thread Steven
I've been inside the box (tightened a monitor too tight, when I went to loosen it, the backing screw fell off). I am not using one of the switches. I've always wondered if I could snip a wire or two? Anyway, I think I am going to wait unti I get that 475 that I paid for yesterday, see if this w

LC to VGA - add. remark (was: Mac LC II help needed)

2002-05-16 Thread mart
Hi, Rereading some of this thread, Steven wrote, somewhere halfway: >Going back to my main objective here...Like I said, I know this 17" Mac >monitor will work on the LC II, directly. However it won't work through the >switch box.. I don't care of the 640X480 limit, as long as I get most of >i

Erratum 2 > Re: Mac LC II help needed

2002-05-15 Thread mart
I wrote: > connect all three the sensing pins [...] together and then to GND. I dug up some more, and it seems that the above is wrong. All three to GND stands for 21" RGB. More likely: Plain 640x480 VGA needs 'extended sense pin code 23': connect 7 to 10, nothing to ground. 640x480 VGA on a 1

Re: Mac LC II help needed

2002-05-15 Thread Steven
Well, this email is a keeper! I will probably get on this in about a week. So many projects, so little time. Before I mess up my one and only cable (this really is a special cable on the monitor. Can't be found. I literally had to buy a new monitor off of eBay, so I can replace my existing cab

Erratum > Re: Mac LC II help needed

2002-05-15 Thread mart
I wrote: >For starters, connect all three the sensing pins (Mac pins 1,4 and 7) >together and then to GND of Sync (VGA pin 11 and or 14). Please read: (Mac pins 4,7 and 10) That's better. -mart -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by and... Small Dog Electronics

LC to VGA (was Re: Mac LC II help needed)

2002-05-15 Thread mart
Scott mumbled to himself: >As soon as I can build/find an adapter to attach my LC to a VGA monitor, >I'm going to set up a dual-floppy only web server. I iust saw one flying by, quite low. Remember it requires 512k Video RAM and the sense pinnings are not final, yet. have fun soldering, -mart

Re: Mac LC II help needed

2002-05-15 Thread mart
Now the sh*t has hit the fan. >> Having read this, it is important to check if your 17" monitor can do >> 640x480 at 256 colours. If so, it makes sense to proceed with the >> Y-adaptor. >> >Just checked the Monitors control panel, and yepper, it can handle it. > >Any recommendations on this Y-ad

Re: Mac LC II help needed

2002-05-15 Thread Scott Holder
At 07:25 AM 5/15/2002 -0700, you wrote: > >Hate to sound like a "newbie" here, but what is a headless server? At first >I thought this was some kind of joke, but I see others use it. Headless >server sounded funny to me, like calling a wasted CD-R a coaster It just means no monitor attached. Th

Re: Mac LC II help needed

2002-05-15 Thread the pickle
At 16:31 +0100 on 15/05/02, Mark Benson wrote: >>Just the one - it's basically an LC II with 72-pin RAM and an 040 instead >>of the 030. > >Not wanting to go too far into unnecessary technicality but they are >not the same at all. It does however only have the one PDS slot as You care to 'splain

Re: Mac LC II help needed

2002-05-15 Thread Mark Benson
>Just the one - it's basically an LC II with 72-pin RAM and an 040 instead >of the 030. Not wanting to go too far into unnecessary technicality but they are not the same at all. It does however only have the one PDS slot as pickle says. -- -- Mark Benson Any spelling errors are attributed to

Re: Mac LC II help needed

2002-05-15 Thread Steven
> This sound like a good solution to me. Just fool the LCII. I'd say: > shortcut the sensing pins in the proper way (depending on desired > resolution). > > >Is this LC II upgradeable? Can a newer video card be put in this so that it > >could recognize this higher speed monitor (I really don't kn

Re: Mac LC II help needed

2002-05-15 Thread mart
Mark B. replied: >> As I discovered early on any switch for Mac monitors has >> to be able to direct all the lines to the Mac (including the sense >> pins that tell it what monitor type it is). I manage now by having >> several MAc to PC adapters on them (since I use a PC monitor anyway) >> which

Re: Mac LC II help needed

2002-05-15 Thread the pickle
At 07:25 -0700 on 15/05/02, Steven wrote: >Hate to sound like a "newbie" here, but what is a headless server? At first Headless = no monitor. the pickle FAQ Software Archive

Re: Mac LC II help needed

2002-05-15 Thread the pickle
At 07:22 -0700 on 15/05/02, Steven wrote: >> I don't know if the Apple //e cards will run on LC3 PDS slots. The >> design of the interface slot at the back of the LC changed between >> the LCII and LCIII, I don't know if it is entirely compatible with >> older cards. My Ethernet card in my 475 is

Re: Mac LC II help needed

2002-05-15 Thread the pickle
At 07:20 -0700 on 15/05/02, Steven wrote: >Is this safe to do? Is it safe to plug in ANY device (SCSI/ADB/etc.) into a >powered on computer? Only a monitor or serial device. ADB and SCSI both use power and tend to zap things if you hot-plug them. the pickle FAQ

Re: Mac LC II help needed

2002-05-15 Thread Steven
> > >I do know that the 475 will boot without a monitor, though I seem to recall > >that plugging in one later would limit it to 640x480 because it didn't have > >the ability to sense the max res. > Going back to my main objective here...Like I said, I know this 17" Mac monitor will work on the

Re: Mac LC II help needed

2002-05-15 Thread Steven
> I think it is thae same card he refers to but using it in an LC or an > LCII is going to work fine as Apple sold it in those machines anyway > (I have an original Macintosh LC sales leaflet that details all the > options available) so it's not surprise it worked for you :). I think > the only wa

Re: Mac LC II help needed

2002-05-15 Thread Steven
> > I don't know if the Apple //e cards will run on LC3 PDS slots. The > design of the interface slot at the back of the LC changed between > the LCII and LCIII, I don't know if it is entirely compatible with > older cards. My Ethernet card in my 475 is only an LCPDS (as opposed > to an LC3PDS) an

Re: Mac LC II help needed

2002-05-15 Thread Steven
> >I do know that the 475 will boot without a monitor, though I seem to recall > >that plugging in one later would limit it to 640x480 because it didn't have > >the ability to sense the max res. > > I have never tested this on a 475, I usually boot mine with a monitor > plugged in (usually the 1

Re: Mac LC II help needed

2002-05-15 Thread Steven
> I used a card to connect my 11c to the LC (that is the original pizza > box) a long time ago and it worked fine. Is this the same card that you > refer to as a 11e card? > > Chris Edwards > http://chris-edwards.com/ It was a card that you put in your PDS slot. When you access the software, thi

Re: Mac LC II help needed

2002-05-15 Thread the pickle
At 12:53 +0100 on 15/05/02, Mark Benson wrote: >>Should I "dump" this LC II and find a 475 on eBay? Will the 475 handle the >>IIe card? > >I don't know if the Apple //e cards will run on LC3 PDS slots. The Works fine; requires 24-bit addressing be on, though. the pickle FAQ

Re: Mac LC II help needed

2002-05-15 Thread Chris Edwards
> I think it is thae same card he refers to but using it in an LC or an > LCII is going to work fine as Apple sold it in those machines anyway > (I have an original Macintosh LC sales leaflet that details all the > options available) so it's not surprise it worked for you :). I know someone who w

Re: Mac LC II help needed

2002-05-15 Thread Mark Benson
> > Should I "dump" this LC II and find a 475 on eBay? Will the 475 handle >> the >> IIe card? > >I used a card to connect my 11c to the LC (that is the original pizza >box) a long time ago and it worked fine. Is this the same card that you >refer to as a 11e card? I think it is thae same car

Re: Mac LC II help needed

2002-05-15 Thread Mark Benson
>Should I "dump" this LC II and find a 475 on eBay? Will the 475 handle the >IIe card? I don't know if the Apple //e cards will run on LC3 PDS slots. The design of the interface slot at the back of the LC changed between the LCII and LCIII, I don't know if it is entirely compatible with olde

Re: Mac LC II help needed

2002-05-15 Thread Mark Benson
>I used an LCIII headless for awhile has a server. I honestly can't remember >if I stuck an adapter on it to boot it or not. I'll have to try it. They will boot with or without a monitor, the issue is that they often (I only know from the LC and LCIII) disable the video out until you reset them

Re: Mac LC II help needed

2002-05-15 Thread Chris Edwards
> Should I "dump" this LC II and find a 475 on eBay? Will the 475 handle > the > IIe card? I used a card to connect my 11c to the LC (that is the original pizza box) a long time ago and it worked fine. Is this the same card that you refer to as a 11e card? Chris Edwards http://chris-edwards.

Re: Mac LC II help needed

2002-05-14 Thread Steven
> I do know that the 475 will boot without a monitor, though I seem to recall > that plugging in one later would limit it to 640x480 because it didn't have > the ability to sense the max res. > > Scott Holder Should I "dump" this LC II and find a 475 on eBay? Will the 475 handle the IIe card?

Re: Mac LC II help needed

2002-05-14 Thread Scott Holder
At 09:38 PM 5/14/2002 -0400, you wrote: >At 18:06 -0700 on 14/05/02, Steven wrote: > > >Is this LC II upgradeable? Can a newer video card be put in this so that it > >Only to an LC III or 475, which both have the same problem, IIRC. > >the pickle I used an LCIII headless for awhile has a server.

Re: Mac LC II help needed

2002-05-14 Thread the pickle
At 18:06 -0700 on 14/05/02, Steven wrote: >Is this LC II upgradeable? Can a newer video card be put in this so that it Only to an LC III or 475, which both have the same problem, IIRC. the pickle FAQ Software Archive

Re: Mac LC II help needed

2002-05-14 Thread Clark Martin
At 1:32 AM +0100 5/15/02, Mark Benson wrote: >Not easily. As I discovered early on any switch for Mac monitors has >to be able to direct all the lines to the Mac (including the sense >pins that tell it what monitor type it is). I manage now by having >several MAc to PC adapters on them (since I u

Re: Mac LC II help needed

2002-05-14 Thread Steven
> The reason for this is that, if the switch box is not set to the LCII > when you turn it on, it assumes there is no monitor and turns the > video off. This is a PITA for me as I use one dual channel 17" PC > screen on all my Macs and have to shuffle the video connector around > all my 68ks. Most

Re: Mac LC II help needed

2002-05-14 Thread Mark Benson
> > My Mac LC II has the IIe card in it. If I directly attach the 1705monitor >> to the LC II, then it will work (I have to change the colors control panel >> and reboot in order for the desktop to look OK). If I use my Multiple Mac > > monitor/ADB switch box, the monitor will NOT work on th

Re: Mac LC II help needed

2002-05-14 Thread Steven
I tried posting this from another email account, that's why this looks like it is a "reply": > I am "brand-new" to this list. I have a Mac LC II and a Performa 6320, and > a Packard Bell M415 PC. Currently, My Mac Performa/PC are sharing the same > 17" monitor (Mac 1705), keyboard, mouse thro