He's educated all of us. Stick around. The best is
yet to come . . .
It is?
There it was!
Indeed: wow.
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I spent alot more time than that locating the Silverlining which now
apparently has me all screwed up.
I usually carpet bomb hard disks with weird drivers.
I put them in the tray, connect the wires and then start up from a
floppy with Lido or the Micronet Utility (the patched hdsc is also an
Gregg Eshelman wrote:
--- william ahearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
He's educated all of us. Stick around. The best is
yet to come . . .
It is?
Well, maybe not. But one can always hope . . .
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From: Visionary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How do I tell if a version is hacked or not? Simply by whether it works or
doesn't?
The unhacked Apple version is titled Apple HD SC Setup 7.3.5.
The hacked version is titled HD SC Setup 7.3.5 (patched).
I've never seen a download for the hacked version.
It's
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From: Gregg Eshelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vintage Macs)
Subject: Re: More about the Whiney Drives
Date: Fri, Aug 2, 2002, 10:17 PM
We were discussing HARD DRIVES, nothing else. There
is no special driver installed on the hard drive.
The OS supports the hard
Thanks to all of you for your input thus far on my noisey Seagate drives.
From what you all have said, my conclusion is that they are likely usable,
but that the noise factor is inherent with this particular model and is
exaggerated further by putting two such drives in a very small enclosure.
How can I check?
Did you format it as HFS+?
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So, OS versions is not the problem, but Silverlining might be or something
to do with format options not directly related to OS?
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Visionary wrote:
So, OS versions is not the problem, but Silverlining might be or something
to do with format options not directly related to OS?
I don't really understand that. Do you mean that
Silverlining formatted the drive in some weird way?
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At 15:13 -0600 on 02/08/02, Visionary wrote:
So, OS versions is not the problem, but Silverlining might be or something
to do with format options not directly related to OS?
Yes, that's possible.
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At 17:16 -0400 on 02/08/02, william ahearn wrote:
Visionary wrote:
So, OS versions is not the problem, but Silverlining might be or something
to do with format options not directly related to OS?
I don't really understand that. Do you mean that
Silverlining formatted the drive in some weird
the pickle wrote:
It's been well known for quite some time that various HD drivers from various
manufacturers may or may not play nicely together.
I know the problem well. I just wanted to make sure
that's what he meant.
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Look guys, I'm coming from the ugly Windows/DOS world. I don't understand
the need for drivers to install a hard drive whatsoever except for that
brief and ugly period in our own history when there was such a thing as
EIDE which I tried to avoid like the plague. :)
So, what I'm telling you is
Visionary wrote:
Look guys, I'm coming from the ugly Windows/DOS world. I don't understand
the need for drivers to install a hard drive whatsoever except for that
brief and ugly period in our own history when there was such a thing as
EIDE which I tried to avoid like the plague. :)
Well, look at it this way. Apple's spin on the DOS format is designed to
only recgonize certain HDs. Help some?
Terry
Look guys, I'm coming from the ugly Windows/DOS world. I don't understand
the need for drivers to install a hard drive whatsoever except for that
brief and ugly period in
At 16:29 -0600 on 02/08/02, Visionary wrote:
Look guys, I'm coming from the ugly Windows/DOS world. I don't understand
the need for drivers to install a hard drive whatsoever except for that
The drivers are placed on the hard disk when the disk is formatted. All disks
have a driver of some
William:
Alright. The best solution to this that I can think of
is to use the hacked version of Apple's HDSC. (Apple
designed it to see only Apple drives. The hack allows
for other drives to be seen.)
I very much agree. Yes, use that one. Has done *a lot* for my macs.
That way you can wipe
the
Look guys, I'm coming from the ugly Windows/DOS world. I don't understand
the need for drivers to install a hard drive whatsoever except for that
brief and ugly period in our own history when there was such a thing as
EIDE which I tried to avoid like the plague. :)
But you do use drivers in that
--- Visionary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How can I check?
Did you format it as HFS+?
Connect it back to the Mac you formatted it on that's
running OS 8.1, click on the drive then hit Command I.
It should say Mac OS Standard or Mac OS Extended.
Extended is HFS+. If it says Standard then you
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's been well known for quite some time that
various HD drivers from various
manufacturers may or may not play nicely together.
Tell me about it. :P I loaned a drive to a friend
and told him he could erase it, what was on it
wasn't important. When I
The Mac uses disk drivers because the ROM in the
Mac doesn't know how to talk directly to a whole
bunch of different hard drives with all sorts of
different configurations of cylinders, heads and
sectors. 1984 was in the days before PC hard drive
controllers could autodetect the drive paramaters
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The drivers are placed on the hard disk when the
disk is formatted. All disks
have a driver of some sort on them, no matter what
platform/OS/type of drive,
with the exception of (maybe) CD media.
PCs don't use any special driver on the disk unless
--- Teri Pittman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Look guys, I'm coming from the ugly Windows/DOS
world. I don't understand
the need for drivers to install a hard drive
whatsoever except for that
brief and ugly period in our own history when
there was such a thing as
EIDE which I tried to avoid
Gregg:
Thanks so much for this note. Many have chimed in with potentially useful
information about how to solve my immediate problem, but here you have
educated me on the ways of Macdom.
The Mac uses disk drivers because the ROM in the
Mac doesn't know how to talk directly to a whole
bunch
Visionary wrote:
Gregg:
Thanks so much for this note. Many have chimed in with potentially useful
information about how to solve my immediate problem, but here you have
educated me on the ways of Macdom.
He's educated all of us. Stick around. The best is yet
to come . . .
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At 07:39 PM 08/02/2002 -0700, you wrote:
The only time a driver is needed on a
PC is when you have an older PC with one of the
drive size limits in the BIOS and a drive bigger
than the specific limit on that particular PC.
You mean there's a newer OS than Win95? I don't just do trailing edge
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From: Gregg Eshelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vintage Macs)
Subject: Re: More about the Whiney Drives
Date: Fri, Aug 2, 2002, 7:39 PM
Ehm, no. Those utils simply ease and automate the
process that otherwise takes FDISK, FORMAT and 2 or
3 reboots. The only time
--- J.S. Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry, Greg.
I just set up an AMD 1.2 Ghz box from the year 2002.
It requires drivers for the DVD, Modem, Board chips
like the VIA PC-133
chip, on-board sound, modem hard disk, and etc.
Drivers are not obsolete, yet.
We were discussing
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