Re: What's in a PRAM...

2002-04-07 Thread Joost van de Griek
On 2002-04-06 5:54, "Gregg Eshelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Joost van de Griek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The time of manufacture and the hours-of-use counter aren't cleared with a >> normal PRAM zap. They can be cleared only by a "deep zap", [...] > > Let a vintage Mac sit around

Re: What's in a PRAM...

2002-04-05 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Mark Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday, April 5, 2002, at 01:57 PM, the pickle > wrote: > > > At 12:38 +0100 on 05/04/02, Mark Benson wrote: > > > >> clear the only sustained RAM on the computer? You > can't keep it hard > >> coded on a ROM, you'd have to do them one at a > time o

Re: What's in a PRAM...

2002-04-05 Thread the pickle
At 19:54 -0800 on 05/04/02, Gregg Eshelman wrote: >Let a vintage Mac sit around for a month or so with >a dead or missing PRAM battery and the manufacturing >date and hours of use will go *poof*. It definitely doesn't take that long :) the pickle FAQ Software Ar

Re: What's in a PRAM...

2002-04-05 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Joost van de Griek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The time of manufacture and the hours-of-use counter > aren't cleared with a > normal PRAM zap. They can be cleared only by a "deep > zap", which can be > administered by tools like TechTool, for last resort > troubleshooting > purposes (TechTo

Re: What's in a PRAM...

2002-04-05 Thread Mark Benson
On Friday, April 5, 2002, at 01:57 PM, the pickle wrote: > At 12:38 +0100 on 05/04/02, Mark Benson wrote: > >> clear the only sustained RAM on the computer? You can't keep it hard >> coded on a ROM, you'd have to do them one at a time or at least a days > > Wlll...you *could* do a flash ROM..

Re: What's in a PRAM...

2002-04-05 Thread Joost van de Griek
On 2002-04-05 13:38, "Mark Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday, April 5, 2002, at 08:53 AM, David Wood wrote: > >> It's been years since I had an ocassion to zap PRAM on any of my Macs >> and >> that was on my original Mac LC. However, it seems as if I recall that it >> also wiped and

Re: What's in a PRAM...

2002-04-05 Thread the pickle
At 12:38 +0100 on 05/04/02, Mark Benson wrote: >clear the only sustained RAM on the computer? You can't keep it hard >coded on a ROM, you'd have to do them one at a time or at least a days Wlll...you *could* do a flash ROM... the pickle FAQ Software Archive

Re: What's in a PRAM...

2002-04-05 Thread Mark Benson
On Friday, April 5, 2002, at 08:53 AM, David Wood wrote: > It's been years since I had an ocassion to zap PRAM on any of my Macs > and > that was on my original Mac LC. However, it seems as if I recall that it > also wiped and reset some info about the original date of service (or > manufacture

Re: What's in a PRAM...

2002-04-05 Thread Scott Barber
On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Mark Benson wrote: > Apple's list of items held in PRAM on 68k machines taken from KBase > article #2238: Thanks Mark, (it all makes sense now ;O ). Anyway, it seems that in some cases, a good zap will help get a good boot, as when I changed the scsi set up on my IIfx incoor

Re: What's in a PRAM...

2002-04-04 Thread David Wood
At 5:15 PM -0700 4/4/02, Mark Benson wrote: >Someone wanted to know what was held in the PRAM ona 68k Mac, here is >Apple's list of items held in PRAM on 68k machines taken from KBase >article #2238: > It's been years since I had an ocassion to zap PRAM on any of my Macs and that was on my origi

What's in a PRAM...

2002-04-04 Thread Mark Benson
Someone wanted to know what was held in the PRAM ona 68k Mac, here is Apple's list of items held in PRAM on 68k machines taken from KBase article #2238: Contents of PRAM Status of AppleTalk Serial Port Configuration and Port definition Alarm clock setting Application font Serial printer locatio