Dearest Dave,
Piss off.
Sincerely,
Terry
This discussion is off topic.
Remember we are talking about the Macintosh here, OK?
Get a clue losers!
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That doesn't explain why a half dozen Mac hackers never came up with
a trivial software solution. If it were doable, it would have been
They don't work for Apple?
Computer hobbyist...geeks...you know the kids that were hacking all
kinds of stuff back then. They would have solved this if it
At 21:23 -0500 on 02/04/03, Robert Gray wrote:
Give a competent programmer with proper equipment a ROM dump and financial
incentive and if this problem is solvable, we'll have it fixed
Thought we were talking trivial software solution here not a small project.
We are. You don't expect someone
At 08:23 -0800 on 02/04/03, Joseph Davis wrote:
Buy me a Holset HX35 with the 9 cm^2 exhaust housing, and get me the
unobtainium data sheet for the OKI 6260 used circa 1990, and we'll
talk.
You mean like one of these?
http://msvorinich.itgo.com/Jan0703.html
eBay says rebuilt HX-35s are about
Hi,
Could somebody please explain what this thread is about, and how it
relates to Vintage Macs? Thanks!
Rob
At 08:23 -0800 on 02/04/03, Joseph Davis wrote:
Buy me a Holset HX35 with the 9 cm^2 exhaust housing, and get me the
unobtainium data sheet for the OKI 6260 used circa 1990,
Hey Pickle, I can't remember what model of the compact mac the HX-35 is. Clue me in
will you? Or get a clue yourself, maybe the HX-35 is not a compact mac?!
H.
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 08:23 -0800 on 02/04/03, Joseph Davis wrote:
Buy me a Holset HX35 with the 9 cm^2
I agree. Guys, get it off the list. I'm tired of wading through all your crap.
--- Robert Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Could somebody please explain what this thread is about, and how it
relates to Vintage Macs? Thanks!
Rob
At 08:23 -0800 on 02/04/03, Joseph
This discussion is off topic.
Remember we are talking about the Macintosh here, OK?
Get a clue losers!
--- Joseph Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 22:47:57 -0500, you wrote:
At 08:23 -0800 on 02/04/03, Joseph Davis wrote:
Buy me a Holset HX35 with the 9 cm^2 exhaust
Attn: Dave Lee-- Hear, Hear! You tell 'em, Dave!
On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 21:09:19 -0800 (PST) Dave Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
I agree. Guys, get it off the list. I'm tired of wading through
all your crap.
--- Robert Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Could somebody
At 01:51 -0800 on 02/04/03, Joseph Davis wrote:
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003 19:28:53 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Give a competent programmer with proper equipment a
ROM dump and financial
incentive and if this problem is solvable, we'll
have it fixed inside of a
On Wed, 2 Apr 2003 07:53:26 -0500, you wrote:
At 01:51 -0800 on 02/04/03, Joseph Davis wrote:
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003 19:28:53 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Give a competent programmer with proper equipment a
ROM dump and financial
incentive and if this problem
At 00:09:08 -0500 on 4/1/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 00:06 -0500 on 01/04/03, Robert Gray wrote:
At 07:43:41 -0500 on 3/31/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 07:42 -0500 on 31/03/03, Robert Gray wrote:
I was thinking about something along the lines of...MODE32...
a little file
At 21:28 -0500 on 01/04/03, Robert Gray wrote:
That doesn't explain why a half dozen Mac hackers never came up with
a trivial software solution. If it were doable, it would have been
They don't work for Apple?
You'd think someone could write a browser for System 6, too, but nobody's done
that
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Give a competent programmer with proper equipment a
ROM dump and financial
incentive and if this problem is solvable, we'll
have it fixed inside of a
week. Finding the competent programmer is going to
be the difficult (read: impossible) part.
Naw,
At 19:28 -0800 on 01/04/03, Gregg Eshelman wrote:
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Give a competent programmer with proper equipment a
ROM dump and financial
incentive and if this problem is solvable, we'll
have it fixed inside of a
week. Finding the competent programmer is going to
I was thinking about something along the lines of...MODE32...
a little file that you stick in your extensions folder.
If the solution were that trivial,
the question never would have come up. :-)
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At 22:53 -0600 on 30/03/03, Jeff Walther wrote:
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 11:42:13 -0500
From: the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 10:27 -0500 on 30/03/03, Dan Knight wrote:
Sonnet has come out with a patch. It's part of a PDS card that includes a
33 MHz '040 CPU, ethernet, and 32 MB additional
At 07:42 -0500 on 31/03/03, Robert Gray wrote:
I was thinking about something along the lines of...MODE32...
a little file that you stick in your extensions folder.
If the solution were that trivial,
the question never would have come up. :-)
What's the bet Connectix might have had something,
At 07:43:41 -0500 on 3/31/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 07:42 -0500 on 31/03/03, Robert Gray wrote:
I was thinking about something along the lines of...MODE32...
a little file that you stick in your extensions folder.
If the solution were that trivial,
the question never would have
At 00:06 -0500 on 01/04/03, Robert Gray wrote:
At 07:43:41 -0500 on 3/31/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 07:42 -0500 on 31/03/03, Robert Gray wrote:
I was thinking about something along the lines of...MODE32...
a little file that you stick in your extensions folder.
If the solution were
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
various people wrote
What's the bet Connectix might have had
something, but Apple
didn't want them to release it and bought it off
them?
Conspiracy theory. I like it. :-) Another 200
mpg carburetor.
Any company willing to write the ROMs
For instance, if
a computer has 2 MB on the motherboard and accepts two 4 MB SIMMs (but
nothing larger), there's no reason in the world to create ROMs that can
support more than 10 MB.
There's a huge reason *not* to make a ROM that only supports 10 MB when
it's
clear that larger SIMMs are
At 18:36 +1000 on 30/03/03, dana sibera wrote:
From the (basic) knowledge I have of memory, the number of address lines
(column and row) that are either
physically connected to the simm socket, or even physically available on the
memory controller, comes into play. If the
motherboard doesn't have
On 3/28/03 2:17 PM, Adam posted:
If this limitation is the the ROM thanks to our friends at Apple, and if it
is patchable by someone with the necessary skills, why wouldn't Connectix or
someone come out with such a patch.
I'm sure they would have sold by the truckload.
Sonnet has come out with a
At 10:27 -0500 on 30/03/03, Dan Knight wrote:
Sonnet has come out with a patch. It's part of a PDS card that includes a
33 MHz '040 CPU, ethernet, and 32 MB additional memory.
Ja, but that means it's doable in software.
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At 08:21 +1000 on 31/03/03, Adam wrote:
Sonnet has come out with a patch. It's part of a PDS card that includes a
33 MHz '040 CPU, ethernet, and 32 MB additional memory.
Ja, but that means it's doable in software.
--
Does it? I'm not completely convinced that being able to do this with an
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 11:42:13 -0500
From: the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 10:27 -0500 on 30/03/03, Dan Knight wrote:
Sonnet has come out with a patch. It's part of a PDS card that includes a
33 MHz '040 CPU, ethernet, and 32 MB additional memory.
Ja, but that means it's doable in software.
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 10:27 -0500 on 30/03/03, Dan Knight wrote:
Sonnet has come out with a patch. It's part of a
PDS card that includes a
33 MHz '040 CPU, ethernet, and 32 MB additional
memory.
Ja, but that means it's doable in software.
Depends on how the Sonnet
I mean, as many people as I hear make the suggestion to turn that
antique Mac into an FTP server, you'd think there would be plenty of
solutions that don't require a non-standard OS- or at least ONE...
There's always NCSA Telnet. It's not a very robust or buff FTP server,
but it works and it
On 3/26/03 3:30 PM, Jeff Walther posted:
From: Fletch Brendan Good [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If you need a third choice, I would actually suggest an LC (not an LC
II or III), even though LowEndMac declared it a Road Apple. Though it
is essentially a repackaging of the Mac II (it has a 68020),
If the LC
At 20:30 -0600 on 29/03/03, Steve Conrad wrote:
I mean, as many people as I hear make the suggestion to turn that
antique Mac into an FTP server, you'd think there would be plenty of
solutions that don't require a non-standard OS- or at least ONE...
There's always NCSA Telnet. It's not a very
At 21:24 -0500 on 29/03/03, Dan Knight wrote:
On 3/26/03 3:30 PM, Jeff Walther posted:
From: Fletch Brendan Good [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If you need a third choice, I would actually suggest an LC (not an LC
II or III), even though LowEndMac declared it a Road Apple. Though it
is essentially a
Speaking of all this- who can point me to some free software I can
use to run such an FTP server using a IIci running System 7?
Heck, forget free-- can someone point me to ANY software that'll let
me run an FTP server on a IIci? I spent a good while at Version
Tracker last night, and couldn't
Speaking of all this- who can point me to some free software I can
use to run such an FTP server using a IIci running System 7?
Heck, forget free-- can someone point me to ANY software that'll let
me run an FTP server on a IIci? I spent a good while at Version
Tracker last night, and couldn't
If you switch to the free OS NetBSD you'll have a ftpserver for
nothing. Installing it is fairly complicated but an interesting
experience. It works fine on a MacIIci.
I appreciate the suggestion, but I'm already installing MkLinux onto
a 7200... I was really hoping for something simpler on
At 18:15 -0500 on 28/03/03, Fletch Brendan Good wrote:
If you switch to the free OS NetBSD you'll have a ftpserver for
nothing. Installing it is fairly complicated but an interesting
experience. It works fine on a MacIIci.
I appreciate the suggestion, but I'm already installing MkLinux onto
a
I mean, as many people as I hear make the suggestion to turn that
antique Mac into an FTP server, you'd think there would be plenty of
solutions that don't require a non-standard OS- or at least ONE...
There's always NCSA Telnet. It's not a very robust or buff FTP server,
but it works and it
At 16:59 -0800 on 28/03/03, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
I mean, as many people as I hear make the suggestion to turn that
antique Mac into an FTP server, you'd think there would be plenty of
solutions that don't require a non-standard OS- or at least ONE...
There's always NCSA Telnet. It's not a
I mean, as many people as I hear make the suggestion to turn that
antique Mac into an FTP server, you'd think there would be plenty of
solutions that don't require a non-standard OS- or at least ONE...
There's always NCSA Telnet. It's not a very robust or buff FTP server,
but it
Might find something on http://mac.tucows.com
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--- Cameron Kaiser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I mean, as many people as I hear make the
suggestion to turn that
antique Mac into an FTP server, you'd think there
would be plenty of
solutions that don't require a non-standard OS- or
at least ONE...
There's always NCSA Telnet. It's not
--- Jeff Walther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
clip
So, someone sneak on over to Apple and appropriate
those files, okay?
And while you're there get the Bandit and Hammerhead
designs too, would you?
Don't forget the Mr. Clean 32bit clean ROMs for the
SE/30, Mac II etc. that Apple used for
[Slamming Apple for the way they developed their line
of computers and for not providing expandability.]
I think Apple knew what they were doing. For every geek there are
probably 30 users who just want to do a little word processing, send
some email, surf the web, and maybe make a bithday
I have an LCIII I am trying to decide what to use for...
Dave
Make yourself a nice Email or FTP server (if an FTP server is the way you
go you can make us mac fans yet another site to find software).
Steve
Steve Conrad
810 Main
Henrietta, MO 64036
816-494-5692
Don't I need some kind of static-IP address for that? I don't think Concast Cable
Internet offers that.
--- Steve Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have an LCIII I am trying to decide what to use for...
Dave
Make yourself a nice Email or FTP server (if an FTP server is the way you
go
Don't I need some kind of static-IP address for that? I don't think
Concast Cable Internet offers that.
You can use a service like dyndns.org or no-ip.com to redirect people
to your FTP or web server when you have a dynamic IP address. I think
it might involve using a browser to log into their
At 10:17 -0800 on 27/03/03, Dave Lee wrote:
Don't I need some kind of static-IP address for that? I don't think Concast
Cable
Internet offers that.
You definitely don't need static IPs for it, but you might want a Dynamic DNS
client.
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--- Jeff Walther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wooo. I wouldn't go on about this so much, but
this is a pet peeve
of mine about Apple. They release models that are
handicapped
beyond the requirements of any cost savings.By
that, I mean that
for the same money, and using pretty much
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Which says to me patch it!
There *has* to be a way to patch that ROM in
software to get around the
limitation. Even if it only allowed the use of
low-profile 16 MB SIMMs, that
would more than triple the current RAM cap and make
the LC and LC II a
At 02:05 -0800 on 26/03/03, Gregg Eshelman wrote:
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Which says to me patch it!
There *has* to be a way to patch that ROM in
software to get around the
limitation. Even if it only allowed the use of
low-profile 16 MB SIMMs, that
would more than triple
I know many people who would run right out and slap the
money down for a G4/Dual G4 with AGP Pro and six or
more PCI slots, no matter what it cost, because
that is what they want.
I'd buy one in a New York minute. I'm already nearly out of slots on my
dual 1.25GHz G4.
To bring this back on
Speaking of the topic of expandability, I also find it downright maddening
how Apple continues bottlenecking the expandability options. The first Mac
I ever even saw in person was the Grape iMac(I'm serious, we used TRS80s and
DOS PCs when I was in school), and I hated it because, where was I
Anyway, don't dishonor the Mac II, which was a fine machine for its
day, by saying that the LC is a close relative. :-)
OK, OK, I see that I deserved that, at least to some extent, for
having made the mistake of closely comparing the LC and the II. I was
paraphrasing Everymac.com and some
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 12:26:56 -0500
From: Fletch Brendan Good [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LC Road Apple; Was: Re: new 68k for Dad
Anyway, don't dishonor the Mac II, which was a fine machine for its
day, by saying that the LC is a close relative. :-)
OK, OK, I see that I deserved
At 15:30 -0500 03/26/2003, Vintage Macs wrote:
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 08:18:07 -0500
From: the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If the ROM was simply coded to ignore the extra RAM, the patching is trivial.
Hmmm. I wonder if there's any way to squeeze the IIsi ROM in there
and see what happens...
If
--- Jeff Walther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My objection is
that Apple built machines that sucked a lot more than they had to for
the same cost in parts. A simple change to the LC would be to get
rid of the memory limitation. That would not increase the cost.
Adding a 32 bit data path
--- Jeff Walther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hmmm. I wonder if there's any way to squeeze the IIsi ROM in there
and see what happens...
IIsi ROMs can be placed inside SE/30s to make them 32 bit clean. I don't know if
the LC
has socketed ROM. I have an LCIII I am trying to decide what to use
At 19:42 -0600 on 26/03/03, Jeff Walther wrote:
At 15:30 -0500 03/26/2003, Vintage Macs wrote:
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 08:18:07 -0500
From: the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If the ROM was simply coded to ignore the extra RAM, the patching is trivial.
Hmmm. I wonder if there's any way to squeeze the
--- Fletch Brendan Good [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
clip
And you know, I
just noticed that
the IIfx itself is a one-bullet Road Apple- at the
same time they
rated it a Best Buy! Go figure.
That's because of the funky 64pin SIMMs and the fact
that the PDS is useless unless you stumble onto a
--- Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On some platforms you'd run a degrader of some
sort.
Doesn't one exist for the mac?
There is one I'm pretty sure, but I can't for the
life of me remember what it's called.
VMac for Mac. :) Emulates a Mac Plus.
http://www.vmac.org May still run too fast
Gregg Eshelman wrote:
--- Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On some platforms you'd run a degrader of some sort.
Doesn't one exist for the mac?
There is one I'm pretty sure, but I can't for the
life of me remember what it's called.
VMac for Mac. :) Emulates a Mac Plus.
While we're cheating, here's another emulator that you could try. Never tried
it myself, but remembered seeing it come across the daily updates. Granted,
this won't bring true nostalgia, but it's worth a shot if you run into dead
ends doing the real way.
Peace,
Todd
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Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 18:46:52 -0500
From: Fletch Brendan Good [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: new 68k for Dad
If you need a third choice, I would actually suggest an LC (not an LC
II or III), even though LowEndMac declared it a Road Apple. Though it
is essentially a repackaging of the Mac II
.
Additionally, the Mac II had a maximum RAM of 128 MB. The LC goes
up to 10 MB.What's up with that? It's not even a power of 2.
Apple must have done something seriously stupid in the ROM and/or the
memory map, because that's not the kind of number you're likely to
get from a
At 03:50 +1000 on 25/03/03, Adam wrote:
.
Additionally, the Mac II had a maximum RAM of 128 MB. The LC goes
up to 10 MB.What's up with that? It's not even a power of 2.
Apple must have done something seriously stupid in the ROM and/or the
memory map, because that's not the kind of
Additionally, the Mac II had a maximum RAM of 128 MB. The LC goes
up to 10 MB.
snip
The 10Mb RAM limit was deliberately programmed into the LC's ASICs.
Which says to me patch it!
There *has* to be a way to patch that ROM in software to get around the
limitation.
That would rock,
At 04:05 +1000 on 25/03/03, Adam wrote:
That would rock, but, is the limitation actually programmed into the ROM? Or
is it built into the memory controller or some other inaccessable location?
No one really knows for sure, but I suspect the ROM.
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Hey all,
My dad has some old games that he wistfully speaks of at times. He used to play them
on his old SE. I think his favorites were Playmaker Football and V for Victory. I
was thinking of getting him another better, faster, color Mac so he could play them
again. I believe most of
With some of the older games, it's tough to tell what systems will
work. A lot of programmers back then wrote directly to areas of the
hardware that was subsequently changed later on by Apple. For example,
I have a King's Quest II game that will not run on anything newer than
a Mac II. Not my
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My dad has some old games that he wistfully speaks
of at times. He used to play them on his old SE. I
think his favorites were Playmaker Football and V
for Victory. I was thinking of getting him another
better, faster, color Mac so he could play them
again.
Gregg Eshelman wrote:
Something you have to watch out for is that some
games written for the older Macs had no speed control
code, they'd just run as fast as possible. Thus they
become unplayable on newer Macs because they run
super fast. (Same problem as with early games written
for the PC and
Gregg Eshelman wrote:
Something you have to watch out for is that some
games written for the older Macs had no speed control
code, they'd just run as fast as possible. Thus they
become unplayable on newer Macs because they run
super fast. (Same problem as with early games written
for the PC and
Steve Conrad wrote:
The past couple messages have come in duplicate from this list. Anyone know
why?
In my case, human error at my end. Sorry
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On some platforms you'd run a degrader of some sort.
Doesn't one exist for the mac?
There is one I'm pretty sure, but I can't for the life of me remember what
it's called.
Cheers,
Adam.
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