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This thread has been closed several times already. Marten Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by

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> In '91, a coalition force headed by the US pushed Iraqi forces out of > Kuwait where the Iraqis were MURDERING and RAPING people. Did you forget > about that? I did not. But there are many places on earth where this happens. But we (the "western and civilized world") are looking on it. We're o

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THE ROCK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > if you commit a crime be prepared to face the consequences. But the consequences are not isolated to America. The whole world is affected - both from the attack and from the answer of the USA. And I'm sure - it will not solve the problem to the end if there

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Marten, Thanks for finding this link. Nice to know what we're dealing with. Bob >From: Marten van de Kraats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >After Andrews final lengthy e-mail about the off topic subject. >I decided not to react because Dan asked us to stop talking about it. >Of course I was intrigued by

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>and your point is? > >Dirk >-- I only tried to get the discussion back to Macs again. I don't have any points to make. The discussion on the previous thread seems closed now. Best that we keep it closed. Marten -- Check out the System

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and your point is? Dirk -- An Fortschritt glauben heißt nicht glauben, daß ein Fortschritt schon geschehen ist. Das wäre kein Glauben. Franz Kafka -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by and... Small Dog Electronicshttp:/

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Rodney wrote: >That was the cleverest attempt to get the last word I've ever seen. >Well done, Andrew!!! Actually, it wasn't clever. It really was stupid, careless oversight. David is a member of the MacToMac list also. I was going through, responding to gobs o' stuff from the MacToMac list

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After Andrews final lengthy e-mail about the off topic subject. I decided not to react because Dan asked us to stop talking about it. Of course I was intrigued by the in my view kind of weird ideas he was spreading, so I typed his name in google and found his page: http://www.eskimo.com/~mactao/

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All you people are grossly misunderstanding what Andrew has to say. Which illustrates his point superbly. Go ahead, attack me now too, I obviously must be sympathetic to terrorists. :P -- Amber Rhea [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean, if Pac-Man affected us as kids,

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ndrew Michael MacTao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: The New York Attack > >Oops... > >Sorry about that folks... > >I said I wouldn't say anything more on this subject on this list & I >meant it... In my haste, I thought that last message was going to >an

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From: Vintage Macs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Andrew Michael MacTao > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 11:34 PM > To: Vintage Macs > Subject: Re: The New York Attack > > > I know this sounds cold and heartless to say in the aftermath of > Tuesday.

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Oops... Sorry about that folks... I said I wouldn't say anything more on this subject on this list & I meant it... In my haste, I thought that last message was going to another list. I'll be more watchful from here on... Cheers, Andrew -- <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <

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> > They value Life far more than you can imagine. The willingness to >> sacrifice a few for the betterment of the many is a concept that is >> entirely beyond Western comprehension. That's why we come up with > > such idiotic terms as, "Suicide Bombing." Chris Wood wrote: >I tried not to get

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on 9/14/01 5:46 PM, Andrew Michael MacTao at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > They value Life far more than you can imagine. The willingness to > sacrifice a few for the betterment of the many is a concept that is > entirely beyond Western comprehension. That's why we come up with > such idiotic te

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Amen. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This is not about making a point to stop violence. It's an "eye for an eye" > situation. We can't just let the criminals behind this think that we'll take > this sitting down and that we're defenseless. We have to let them know we're > not going to take this and

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Anders & Anna-Lee Fager wrote: > >I always wonder about what possesses people in their right mind to even > consider training the arts of fighting and killing other people, let alone > 20 of those arts. > > Don't you know that if you ponder the implications of a falling straw of grass while >

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That is the nature of man. Mahatma Gandhi (sp) and Christ were killed not because of what they did but because of what they believed so I guess it was because of what they did. The point is that as long as there are human beings living on this planet there will always be violence. I agree it does

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>I always wonder about what possesses people in their right mind to even consider training the arts of fighting and killing other people, let alone 20 of those arts. Don't you know that if you ponder the implications of a falling straw of grass while you beat someone to death it is perfectly ok

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>>Kamikazi's are always cowards. Everybody who does suicide is a coward.<< Ever hear of Chicken Yakamura? Only kamikaze to make three flights. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerS

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on 9/14/01 5:07 PM, (Vintage Macs) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm affraid most of the Muslim/Arabic > population support their act against the civilized and free world. I know I was the very one who asked to not discuss the attacks, and Dan the Listmom also specified as such, but I can't NOT

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> >As a matter of fact, Pearl Harbor was not an unprovoked attack! > >The US setting up a naval blockade was a good thing. Good, bad, or, indifferent... The point is, The attack on Pearl Harbor was not unprovoked. Nor was it unexpected. > >If you mean "justified" in it's True defi

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--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Marten wrote: > > >But, the United States set up a naval > >blockade around Japan preventing them from bringing > in food and > >supplies. A naval blockade, by the by, is an act of > war. So, the > >United States had already committed an act of war > against Japan.

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Ah, the wonders of quotation ... -- Deven Gallo > I did NOT write that. I replied to it. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook!

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>Marten wrote: > >>But, the United States set up a naval >>blockade around Japan preventing them from bringing in food and >>supplies. A naval blockade, by the by, is an act of war. So, the >>United States had already committed an act of war against Japan. >>Japan retaliated by bombing the harbor

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Marten wrote: >But, the United States set up a naval >blockade around Japan preventing them from bringing in food and >supplies. A naval blockade, by the by, is an act of war. So, the >United States had already committed an act of war against Japan. >Japan retaliated by bombing the harbor where t

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>As a matter of fact, Pearl Harbor was not an unprovoked attack! >Japan was already engaged in war at the time. They certainly didn't >want another enemy to fight. But, the United States set up a naval >blockade around Japan preventing them from bringing in food and >supplies. A naval blockade

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on 9/14/01 6:47 AM, (Vintage Macs) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This is not about making a point to stop violence. It's an "eye for an eye" > situation. We can't just let the criminals behind this think that we'll take > this sitting down and that we're defenseless. We have to let them know we'r

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THE ROCK wrote: >So you idealists tell me What should the USA should have done after the Pearl >harbor attack? As a matter of fact, Pearl Harbor was not an unprovoked attack! Japan was already engaged in war at the time. They certainly didn't want another enemy to fight. But, the United Sta

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This is not about making a point to stop violence. It's an "eye for an eye" situation. We can't just let the criminals behind this think that we'll take this sitting down and that we're defenseless. We have to let them know we're not going to take this and if they choose to start a fight, we'll

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At 21:51 -0400 on 13/09/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Here's another chestnut "Why do we kill people who kill people to show that >killing people is wrong?" Obviously we must have justice and that will We don't. It's just that *capturing* the person(s) responsible for this heinous crime, and th

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Here's another chestnut "Why do we kill people who kill people to show that killing people is wrong?" Obviously we must have justice and that will probably require military action in this case, but idealists are not wrong in wishing for a world with NO violence, where an attack of this nature w

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So you idealists tell me What should the USA should have done after the Pearl harbor attack? Should she have just looked the other way while the nazis were pillaging Europe? It is not revenge we speak of. It is justice. Just like America was justified in taking action after the Pearl harbor attack

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>From the combined wire services. September 13, 2001 LONDON - Somebody tied an American flag round an old oak tree on a nondescript traffic island near Grosvenor Square in London early Wednesday. Ever since, a mountain has been growing beside the tree - a mountain of flowers, flags, cards, candle

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And it is also said, "In an eye for an eye world, soon no one has any eyes left." -T In a message dated 9/13/01 10:51:09 AM, Andrew Michael MacTao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: << Haven't we Learned a F*ck*ng thing from Northern Ireland? Where a war has raged on for nearly 1,000 years? Each

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> > Shouldn't we, the Human Race, inventors of the Macintosh, be at >least a tiny bit above the insect world?. Insects don't these things to each other. Beastly acts are a human thing only. BTW Revenge is one thing, removing the people responsible for these horrible acts from the face o

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THE ROCK wrote: >Cooler minds will prevail: as for the attackers the usual treatment, >retribution. I fear that's the entire basis of the problem we're facing... Retribution! Retribution was most likely the motivating factor behind the WTC/Pentagon attacks. If, in fact, it was Arabs beh

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>>I´m sorry for all the people who lives in new york, the attack to the world >>trade center is a horrible incident. I´m with you in this horrible >>suffering. > >Same here in the Netherlands! For folks who may be interested... There's been a rather interesting discussion about the WTC-Pentagon

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Amber Rhea wrote: > on 9/11/01 5:44 PM, (Vintage Macs) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> Hello everyone, > >> > >> I=B4m sorry for all the people who lives in new york, the attack to the wor= > >> ld > >> trade center is a horrible incident. I=B4m with you in this horrible > >> suffering. > >

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AFAIK, Will is no longer on the lists. He and Pickle got into a little spat, Will said some things that he shouldn't have, and Chris kicked him off. Terry > Will Ahearn, are you okay?? Everybody else on the list who lives in New York > or DC?? My thoughts are with all of you. I have several frie

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on 9/11/01 5:44 PM, (Vintage Macs) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Hello everyone, >> >> I=B4m sorry for all the people who lives in new york, the attack to the wor= >> ld >> trade center is a horrible incident. I=B4m with you in this horrible >> suffering. > > Same here in the Netherlands! >

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Cooler minds will prevail: as for the attackers the usual treatment, retribution. Jay Jay Johansson wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I´m sorry for all the people who lives in new york, the attack to the world > trade center is a horrible incident. I´m with you in this horrible > suffering. > I don´

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> >I ship off to the Navy tomorrow morning, leaving home tonight. Im >>getting off all the lists so I dont have thousands of E-Mails when I come >>back. The lists have been a pleasant and informative experience for me. > >Maybe Ill be back in a few years. I sincerely hope, for Chris'

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Hello everyone, I´m sorry for all the people who lives in new york, the attack to the world trade center is a horrible incident. I´m with you in this horrible suffering. I don´t want to be fatalist, but this crazy incident can be the beginnig of the third world war or something worst. I have fea