RE: Defeating Touch ID with Siri was RE: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-28 Thread Chris Smart
@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Pelletier Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 4:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Defeating Touch ID with Siri was RE: Iphones no longer secure Hi, That's because the original person who wrote about this didn't realize he

RE: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-28 Thread Ron Pelletier
Dudley Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 5:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure I could and did replicate this problem. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 28, 2015, at 4:58 PM, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca mailto:ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hi

Defeating Touch ID with Siri was RE: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-28 Thread Alan Lemly
not change nor did the iPhone 6 unlock. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 10:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure Hi Joney

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2015-04-28 Thread Ron Pelletier
Of Joney Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 11:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure Unfortunately, it worked for me too. I was hoping that kind of thing would not work, as when I go home, I'd like to keep it out of partying fingers. However, that just means we

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2015-04-28 Thread Aleeha Dudley
thought it strange that you could get in that easily. Ron Danvers From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joney Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 11:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure Unfortunately, it worked

RE: Defeating Touch ID with Siri was RE: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-28 Thread Ron Pelletier
and, if its not your finger, it doesn’t work Ron Danvers From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 11:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Defeating Touch ID with Siri was RE: Iphones no longer secure That's

RE: Defeating Touch ID with Siri was RE: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-28 Thread Alan Lemly
Of Ron Pelletier Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 4:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Defeating Touch ID with Siri was RE: Iphones no longer secure Hi, That's because the original person who wrote about this didn't realize he was pushing the home button to invoke SIRI

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2015-04-27 Thread Robert Doc wright
when you double tap the weather channel it takes you directly into safari. - Original Message - From: Alex Hall To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 12:37 PM Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure I'm not sure then. Unless it's something to do

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2015-04-27 Thread Robert Doc wright
I too stand corrected. - Original Message - From: Richard Turner To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 12:44 PM Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure I fell for the same silly mistake the person posting the message did. If you don't use the same

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2015-04-27 Thread Robert Doc wright
no longer secure You are right... I just tried now using another finger and it will ask me for the code when I click on the weather channel button. Il 26/04/2015 20:37, Alex Hall ha scritto: I'm not sure then. Unless it's something to do with TouchID? Is it possible that it read your

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-27 Thread Robert Doc wright
I am running the latest iso and this does by pass the touch id. Just as he described. It didn't at first but it did the second time. - Original Message - From: Alex Hall To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 12:27 PM Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure

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2015-04-27 Thread Andrea Roveretto
fingernail to press the home button and was right in. - Original Message - *From:* Andrea Roveretto mailto:and...@andrearoveretto.it *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2015 12:40 PM *Subject:* Re: Iphones no longer

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2015-04-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
, April 27, 2015 3:27 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure I am running the latest iso and this does by pass the touch id. Just as he described. It didn't at first but it did the second time. - Original Message - From: Alex Hall mailto:mehg...@icloud.com

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2015-04-27 Thread Margaret Booth
I just tried it on my iPhone 6 and I had to put in my password in. Margaret Sent from my iPhone On 27 Apr 2015, at 4:14 am, Jeremy Gilley j_gil...@att.net wrote: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-27 Thread Joney
Unfortunately, it worked for me too. I was hoping that kind of thing would not work, as when I go home, I'd like to keep it out of partying fingers. However, that just means we go back to the same old same all, commonsense. :-) Joney If God can bring you to it, He will lead you through it.

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2015-04-27 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Joney, this is easily addressed. You can prevent Siri from being used without unlocking your device. To enable this, in iOS 8 you'll find it in Settings, Touch ID and Passcode, under the Allow Access when locked section. Turn Siri off from there. Actually I would turn pretty much everything

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-27 Thread Joney
Sounds like a good idea. I probably will. I had left it on, because it's easier, silly me. :-) Joney If God can bring you to it, He will lead you through it. On Apr 27, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Joney, this is easily addressed. You can prevent Siri from

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-27 Thread Terje Strømberg
not work, if it did it would be all over the internet. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc wright Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 3:27 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure I am running the latest iso

RE: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-27 Thread Ron Pelletier
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure Hi, I'm sorry but I have to disagree with a number of your points. You said: On 4/26/15, Aman Singer aman.sin...@gmail.com wrote: A smartphone is nothing more or less than a computer. The passcode/fingerprint is simply security theatre

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-26 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi, I'm sorry but I have to disagree with a number of your points. You said: On 4/26/15, Aman Singer aman.sin...@gmail.com wrote: A smartphone is nothing more or less than a computer. The passcode/fingerprint is simply security theatre, it makes things look secure and may be secure against

RE: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-26 Thread Aman Singer
, it has been before and I have no doubt will be again. Aman ph...@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 4:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Iphones no longer secure Hi Aman, I beg to differ, in my opinion

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2015-04-26 Thread Christopher J Chaltain
I agree passcodes are not a silver bullet when it comes to security, but as my father used to say, Locks are just meant to keep honest people out. A passcode will keep someone from doing some casual snooping, and if I ever lose my iPhone, will give me time to contact my carrier and report it

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2015-04-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
change this. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher J Chaltain Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 11:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure I'm not exactly sure what you're saying

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2015-04-26 Thread Christopher J Chaltain
:* Sunday, April 26, 2015 11:54 AM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: Iphones no longer secure I'm not exactly sure what you're saying, but there is an option where you can only require a passcode after you haven't used your phone for a certain period of time. Go into Settings - Passcode

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2015-04-26 Thread Richard Turner
I fell for the same silly mistake the person posting the message did. If you don't use the same finger you used to set a fingerprint, it won't work. But, if you hold the home button with a fingerprinted finger, it seems like you've bypassed the security but you have not. If anyone is worried

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-26 Thread Christopher J Chaltain
I'm not exactly sure what you're saying, but there is an option where you can only require a passcode after you haven't used your phone for a certain period of time. Go into Settings - Passcode and see what the require passcode option is set to. Mine is set to after one minute. On 4/26/2015

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2015-04-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
] On Behalf Of Aman Singer Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 11:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure Hi Jeremy and all, Around fifteen years ago now, someone at Microsoft wrote something he called the ten immutable laws of security https://technet.microsoft.com/library

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2015-04-26 Thread David Chittenden
I am unable to reproduce this with either an iPhone 5S or an iPhone 6+. Are you certain you are not activating the fingerprint unlock sensor? David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:14, Jeremy Gilley

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2015-04-26 Thread Andrea Roveretto
I can confirm the same thing works on iphone 5s, just tried it... really I am wothout words Il 26/04/2015 20:14, Jeremy Gilley ha scritto: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-26 Thread Andrea Roveretto
You are right... I just tried now using another finger and it will ask me for the code when I click on the weather channel button. Il 26/04/2015 20:37, Alex Hall ha scritto: I'm not sure then. Unless it's something to do with TouchID? Is it possible that it read your fingerprint when you

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-26 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
You must be touching your finger on the home button. As others have said I cannot replicate your situation. On 4/26/15, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: I fell for the same silly mistake the person posting the message did. If you don't use the same finger you used to set a

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-26 Thread Andrea Roveretto
yes I have the last available update, and I don't have any option asking not to require the pass code. Il 26/04/2015 20:27, Alex Hall ha scritto: I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are you certain your device is running the latest

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2015-04-26 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi, It's because of touch ID. If you have chosen to use touch ID to unlock your phone you ask Siri the temperature you can access Safari as you say, but if you don't use touch ID to unlock the phone you are prompted to enter your passcode. Cheers, Ben. On 4/26/15, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com

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2015-04-26 Thread Alex Hall
I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are you certain your device is running the latest iOS release? Do you have it set to not require a passcode within a certain amount of time after being locked? If so, are you waiting until that time

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2015-04-26 Thread Alex Hall
I'm not sure then. Unless it's something to do with TouchID? Is it possible that it read your fingerprint when you pressed the Home button to activate Siri, so it already knows you are authorized? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Andrea Roveretto and...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: yes I have the

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2015-04-26 Thread Jeremy Gilley
, 2015 2:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: Iphones no longer secure Lock your phone completely. Then just hold down the home button to ask seri the question what is the tempature. Then follow the steps as I stated earlier. I have my phone to have the finger print or the 4

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-26 Thread Aman Singer
Hi Jeremy and all, Around fifteen years ago now, someone at Microsoft wrote something he called the ten immutable laws of security https://technet.microsoft.com/library/cc722487.aspx The whole thing is worth reading, but one of the laws or more accurately descriptions, says: Law #3: If a bad guy

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2015-04-26 Thread Lois Butterfield
@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: Iphones no longer secure Lock your phone completely. Then just hold down the home button to ask seri the question what is the tempature. Then follow the steps as I stated earlier. I have my phone to have the finger print or the 4 didget code. I have made sure I

Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-26 Thread Jeremy Gilley
So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is.

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2015-04-26 Thread Jeremy Gilley
: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 2:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: [Bulk] Re: Iphones no longer secure I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected

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2015-04-26 Thread Lois Butterfield
: Sunday, April 26, 2015 2:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are you certain your device is running the latest iOS release? Do you have it set to not require

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2015-04-26 Thread Chris Smart
: [Bulk] Re: Iphones no longer secure I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are you certain your device is running the latest iOS release? Do you have it set to not require a passcode within a certain amount of time after being locked? If so

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-26 Thread Chris Smart
yeah. it's reading your fingerprint as you hold the button down. At 02:44 PM 4/26/2015, you wrote: I fell for the same silly mistake the person posting the message did. If you don't use the same finger you used to set a fingerprint, it won't work. But, if you hold the home button with a

RE: [Bulk] Re: Iphones no longer secure problem solved

2015-04-26 Thread Chris Smart
] On Behalf Of Jeremy Gilley Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 2:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: Iphones no longer secure Lock your phone completely. Then just hold down the home button to ask seri the question what is the tempature. Then follow the steps as I stated earlier. I

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2015-04-26 Thread Aman Singer
6:26 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure Hi, I'm sorry but I have to disagree with a number of your points. You said: On 4/26/15, Aman Singer aman.sin...@gmail.com wrote: A smartphone is nothing more or less than a computer. The passcode/fingerprint is simply

Re: Iphones no longer secure

2015-04-26 Thread Brent Harding
, April 26, 2015 3:44 PM Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure Could it be because you have Touch ID enabled? I'm just guessing since I still have an iPhone 4S. On 4/26/2015 3:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Christopher, I have set mine to “Immediately” and interestingly