Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-07-02 Thread Christina C.
The big problem for me is the battery drain. Some folks say it does not really drain their battery but it significantly drains the battery on my iPhone 5S. Typically from night to morning my phone will go from 100 percent to 99% or even 100%. However, if I forget to do the work around after

Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-07-02 Thread David Chittenden
Considering that Apple will be releasing Siri always on in iOS 8 (as announced in WWDC), this bug will only last two to three more months. It is entirely possible that VO is occasionally activating some embedded code currently. Again, the new announced feature will most probably clear this

Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-07-02 Thread Christina C.
Yes, I am so glad we have a simple work around. :) It's not a huge deal unless I forget to perform the work around. :) I am not expecting this bug to persist forever. What is Siri always? Christina On Jul 2, 2014, at 12:28 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Considering that

Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-07-02 Thread David Chittenden
According to what was announced, when the iOS device is plugged into power, the mic will remain active and Siri will monitor for an activation command phrase. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 3 Jul 2014, at 6:32,

Siri Always On? was Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-07-02 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Siri always on means that you can say the phrase hey siri and it will activate when the device is plugged in. This is according to WWDC anyway. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 02/07/2014 19:28, David Chittenden wrote: Considering that Apple

Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-07-02 Thread Gmail
I'm a little bit confused as to how that feature might help us with this bug. Maybe it's because I don't really understand why triggering Siri temporarily fixes the bug, until dictation is used again. Would you mind explaining this a little bit more? Thanks, Ari On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:28 PM,

RE: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-07-02 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
-Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug Considering that Apple will be releasing Siri always

Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-07-02 Thread David Chittenden
: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug Considering that Apple will be releasing Siri always on in iOS 8 (as announced

Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-07-02 Thread David Chittenden
Basically, battery drain increases when more processes are active on the device. Some processes draw significant amounts of power. If the process does not release, power continues to be drawn to maintain the process. There has been speculation that power is being drawn to keep the mic open.

Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-07-01 Thread Christina C.
What a bummer that they did not fix this bug. If i accidentally forget to ask siri for the current temperature after using dictation from an edit field my battery drains very very quickly. I understand that someone here explained how to tell if the bug is present is by noticing the volume

RE: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-07-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christina C. Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 10:16 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug What a bummer that they did not fix this bug. If i

Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-07-01 Thread Christina C.
: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christina C. Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 10:16 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug What a bummer that they did not fix this bug. If i accidentally forget to ask siri

Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-07-01 Thread David Chittenden
Just because a bug is known does not, in any way, mean the company knows what is causing the bug. Much of the time, bugs are caused by completely unrelated factors. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 2 Jul 2014, at 5:15,

Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-07-01 Thread Christina C.
Agreed. I rarely expect any software developer to be able to fix every problem. :) It's just a bit of a bummer and an inconvenience. Oh well, I'll just deal with it and hope for the best with iOS 8. I'm still extremely grateful for all the things I can do with my iPhone. Even though it isn't

Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-07-01 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Quick Type is the other new keyboard option in iOS 8. It's part of the enhancements to the default keyboard. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 01/07/2014 19:15, Christina C. wrote: Agreed. I rarely expect any software developer to be able to

Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-07-01 Thread Joseph
Hello Folks, I am running iOS 7.1.2 and in no way am I able to recreate this situation. Every time I dictate, the speaker does not stay on. I never need to ask seri something. In fact, the problem with seri not releasing back to the OS no longer is a problem. I will keep an ear on this and over

Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-07-01 Thread Christina C.
I am on an iPhone 5S and I do get this bug. What device are you using? Maybe it only is on certain devices. Also, if I use Siri via the home button to compose and send a text message, I do not experience this bug. It only happens if I use the dictation feature in an edit field. I hope that

Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-07-01 Thread Joseph
Hello, I'm using an iPhone 4S. Sent from my Sprint iPhone 4S. On Jul 1, 2014, at 1:14 PM, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote: I am on an iPhone 5S and I do get this bug. What device are you using? Maybe it only is on certain devices. Also, if I use Siri via the home button to

RE: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-07-01 Thread DJ
You can do that too. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christina C. Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 1:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug What a bummer that they did not fix

RE: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-07-01 Thread DJ
I can't explain it either but they are tied together. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christina C. Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 1:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug Yup

Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-07-01 Thread Brian Fischler
@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christina C. Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 10:16 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug What a bummer that they did not fix this bug. If i accidentally forget to ask siri for the current temperature

iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-06-30 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all The subject pretty much says it. I just tested on my iPhone5, running iOS7.1.2, and the dictation bug is still present. So, remember to play media or activate Siri after dictating, or you might have severe battery drain. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following

Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-06-30 Thread Les Kriegler
Alex, is this problem only if you use a dictation app or does it also looks her if you Siri to dictate? I do the latter. So if one uses Siri, is one still have to reactivate Siri to take care the battery drain issue? Hope this makes sense. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 30, 2014, at 2:46

Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-06-30 Thread Alex Hall
I think it's only if you use dictation in a text field, not Siri. On Jun 30, 2014, at 2:53 PM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: Alex, is this problem only if you use a dictation app or does it also looks her if you Siri to dictate? I do the latter. So if one uses Siri, is one still

Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-06-30 Thread Mike Arrigo
Thanks for this, admitedly, I'm a bit disappointed that Apple did not fix this when they were clearly aware of it. How were you able to tell that it wasn't fixed? Original message: Hi all The subject pretty much says it. I just tested on my iPhone5, running iOS7.1.2, and the dictation bug is

Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-06-30 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I haven't had this problem but I guess that is partly why it's a bug. Some people get it but not everybody does. It's always nice to find one bug from which I have been excluded! -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the

Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-06-30 Thread Alex Hall
It's easy to tell if you use bluetooth headphones when dictating, at least the ones I use. When the mic is open, sound quality drops to that of a phone call instead of the usual full quality. Normally, once dictation is over, sounds, including VO speech, return to normal. With this bug, though,

Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-06-30 Thread David
how would a person know, if there microphone was still active? Dave. - Original Message - From: Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 10:00 PM Subject: Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug I haven't had this problem but I

RE: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-06-30 Thread DJ
not necessary to say anything to Siri when you activate and disable it. DJ' -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 4:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix

RE: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-06-30 Thread DJ
not necessary to say anything to Siri when you activate and disable it. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 5:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug how

Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-06-30 Thread Gail the U. S. Male
. - Original Message - From: DJ grou...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 5:11 PM Subject: RE: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug Mike, One way you can tell if the microphone turns off is to do the following. Make sure that the volume level is different

Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-06-30 Thread Alex Hall
Message - From: DJ grou...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 5:11 PM Subject: RE: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug Mike, One way you can tell if the microphone turns off is to do the following. Make sure that the volume level is different for Siri

RE: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-06-30 Thread DJ
Thank you Alex for answering her question. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gail the U. S. Male Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 7:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug I don't

Re: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug

2014-06-30 Thread Gail the U. S. Male
Hi, I'm a he. hence Gail the U. S. male. - Original Message - From: DJ grou...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 8:33 PM Subject: RE: iOS7.1.2 did NOT fix the dictation bug Thank you Alex for answering her question. -Original Message- From