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From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Jewel
Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2019 4:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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"SHOULD" being the word, but my phone must be, unduly sensative about which
two fingers I use!
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I'll tell you why I don't want to. I'm panicky about that early-13 phone and
VoiceOver problem where VO died when disconnecting from a telephone or FaceTime
call. If that bug is till extant, I cannot possibly have that happen to me when
That's what I always do. When I turn it off in order to hand the phone
to a sighted person who needs to do something for me which I cannot, I
also must remember to tap the HOME button once, because Siri displays
what it jut spoke, and the way to get rid of that is by tapping the HOME
button
Steve:
You can tell Siri to turn on voice over. That is the easiest way for me.
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If the hearing-aid accessibility shortcut is present, one mut choose
between which triple-click-HOME function one wants to use. To turn VO
off is easy enough, but not so to turn it back on again. Hence, I have
removed that shortcut, so now my triple-click-HOME only turns off VO and
shows no
What I think has happened is there are more than one apps selected for the
accessibility shortcut. In order to have VoiceOver turn on and off with the
triple tap, you must have voiceover selected only. Go to settings,
accessibility and then the the shortcut. Make sure that it says voceiOver is
Steve:
I am not sure I understand your question. A triple tap on the home button
will turn voice over off and will announce that voice over is off. Then
another triple tap of the home button will turn voice over on again and it
will announce voice over is on.
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Yes, but that's only half the issue. The other half is turning VO back
on. A triple-tap of the HOME button brings up the same dialog, and since
VO isn't on, what does one do then?
On 12/27/2019 10:27 AM, Carolyn wrote:
Same here, and I just pressed the Home three times, flicked past the
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Thanks for reminding me about removing that hearing-aid shortcut. I ahve never
used it, nor do or would I want to.
On 12/26/2019 3:46 PM, Mr. Ed wrote:
> Hi,
> I have hearing aids and I turned off that short cut for pressing the home
> but
Mr. Ed:
Thanks. Got it!
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Holly
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Mr. Ed:
How did you turn off the hearing aid shortcut. I have it on, and would
rather not have it, as the app is not very accessible
Thanks for reminding me about removing that hearing-aid shortcut. I ahve
never used it, nor do or would I want to.
On 12/26/2019 3:46 PM, Mr. Ed wrote:
Hi,
I have hearing aids and I turned off that short cut for pressing the home
button three times to turn VO on and off. I would rather have
Mr. Ed:
How did you turn off the hearing aid shortcut. I have it on, and would
rather not have it, as the app is not very accessible anyway.
I went into accessibility and then hearing, but couldn't see any option for
turning off the shortcut.
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Because when this bug first appeared, it was not possible to turn
VoiceOver off, then on again, so sighted assistance was required to do
that. Second, if one is a hearing aid user, a triple-tap of the HOME
button brings up a dialog
Because when this bug first appeared, it was not possible to turn
VoiceOver off, then on again, so sighted assistance was required to do
that. Second, if one is a hearing aid user, a triple-tap of the HOME
button brings up a dialog that doesn't, or didn't, speak,offering the
choice of turning
Hi guys:
I finally updated a couple of days ago. I got my computer upgraded to Win
10 last week, so guess it is my time to catch up with the latest technology.
I didn't find any major issues with 13.3, although, some say there is still
a bug in the email app. I don't use my phone for much
Good luck, Steve. we have 4 iphones, but haven't updated yet, and won't for
a good while most likely.
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And baby makes three! SOLD! :-)]
On 12/25/20
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"SHOULD" being the word, but my phone must be, unduly sensative about which
two fingers I use!
Jewel
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I'll tell you why I don't want to. I'm panicky about that early-13 phone
and VoiceOver problem where VO died when disconnecting from a telephone
or FaceTime call. If that bug is till extant, I cannot possibly have
that happen to me when I'm away
Jewel:
The echo probably has a better speaker anyway. I don't like listening to
music on my phone, as the sound quality is not very good, even for just
news.
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jewel:
Just press the home button to get the home screen to come up, then press the
home button twice quickly till the phone announces the app s
And baby makes three! SOLD! :-)]
On 12/25/2019 4:09 PM, kheve...@earthlink.net wrote:
Steve, I have been using 13.3 for couple weeks now and have never experienced
that problem. Honostly think you will be fine to upgrade.
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"SHOULD" being the word, but my phone must be, unduly sensative about which
two fingers I use!
Jewel
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A two fing
OK, my heart is wending its way down from my throat back to its correct
position. I'll do the update probably tonight. Sure wish there was a way
to roll back that actually works.
On 12/24/2019 11:25 PM, terri...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Steve, that bug seems to have been fixed as of 13.2.3. I
OK, that's two yeses.
On 12/25/2019 1:44 PM, Carolyn wrote:
But you can go to 13.3, and there is no problem with VoiceOver.
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jewel:
Just press the home button to get the home screen to come up, then press the
home button twice quickly till the phone announces the app switcher, then
listen for the station app and do a three finger swipe up to close the radio
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, but, when one is
listening to a radio
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the thing off?
Jewel
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But you can go to 13.3, and there is no problem with VoiceOver.
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I'll tell you why I don't want to. I'm panicky about that early-13 phone and
VoiceOver problem where VO died when disconnecting from a telephone or FaceTime
call. If that bug is till extant, I cannot possibly have that happen
But you can go to 13.3, and there is no problem with VoiceOver.
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Steve Matzura
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 10:46 PM
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I'll
latest update
I'll tell you why I don't want to. I'm panicky about that early-13 phone and
VoiceOver problem where VO died when disconnecting from a telephone or FaceTime
call. If that bug is till extant, I cannot possibly have that happen to me when
I'm away from sighted asistance to turn
Absolutely not. It updates when I say it can, and I won't unless and
until the aforementioned VoiceOver problem has definitely been fixed.
Tell me that one's been squashed, and I'll lower the gates and let it
in. Otherwise, no thank you. Don't need it, don't want it.
On 12/24/2019 10:12 PM,
Yes, looks that way.
On 12/24/2019 3:33 PM, janet gross wrote:
HI Steve,
I think it might depend on which iPhone you have, as far as the iOS 12 updates.
Although, I could very well be wrong, in which I wouldn't mind being wrong
now, as I do not want the iOS 13 update either. I just
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Now there's a fine question: I'm on 12.4.1. If there are version 12
updates, how do I get them, and avoid installing 13.3, which I
absolutely do not want to do?
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I'll tell you why I don't want to. I'm panicky about that early-13 phone
and VoiceOver problem where VO died when disconnecting from a telephone
or FaceTime call. If that bug is till extant, I cannot possibly have
that happen to me when I'm away from sighted asistance to turn the phone
off.
You can also put "Sounds" on the rotor and turn them off that way.
On 12/23/2019 6:18 PM, Gordon wrote:
It's been a little while since I've turned that stuff off on my phone,
but I think you'll go to settings, accessibility, voice over and then
audio if I remember correctly.
On 12/23/2019
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> Behalf
> > Of janet gross
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 2:33 PM
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> > HI Steve,
> > I think it might depend
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>
> HI Steve,
> I think it might depend on which iPhone you have, as far as the iOS 12
> updates. Although, I could very well be wrong, in which I wouldn't mind
> being wrong now, as I do not want the iOS 13
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janet gross
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HI Steve,
I think it might depend on which iPhone you have, as far as the iOS 12
May I asked why you don't want to download IOS 13?
Mr. Ed
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janet gross
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 2:27 PM
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HI Joshua,
I
that particular update on
my xr iPhone though.
Janet
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Steve Matzura
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 1:01 PM
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Now there's
what
I was told as well.
> On 12/24/19, Dave wrote:
> If your phone, is higher than an iPhone 6, then you can't do it.
>
> Dave.
>
>
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I'm wondering the same thing. I would want my phone to be updated to
12.44 if at all possible
the work to avoid 13.3.
Richard
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Hendrickson
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PM
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As I wrote in another message, it is up to 12.4.4 now. It downloaded itself to
my phone earlier today, even though I have automatic updates turned off. I will
install it later today. Go into settings, general, software updates
ecember 24, 2019 7:00 PM
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>
> Now there's a fine question: I'm on 12.4.1. If there are version 12
> updates, how do I get them, and avoid installing 13.3, which I
> absolutely do not want to do?
>
>
> On 12/24/
If your phone, is higher than an iPhone 6, then you can't do it.
Dave.
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Now there's a fine question: I'm on 12.4.1. If there are version 12
As I wrote in another message, it is up to 12.4.4 now. It downloaded itself to
my phone earlier today, even though I have automatic updates turned off. I will
install it later today. Go into settings, general, software updates, and have
it check, it should find it.
Arnold Schmidt
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I'm wondering the same thing. I would want my phone to be updated to
12.44 if at all possible.
On 12/24/19, Steve Matzura wrote:
> Now there's a fine question: I'm on 12.4.1. If there are version 12
> updates, how do I get them, and avoid installing 13.3, which I
> absolutely do not want to do?
Now there's a fine question: I'm on 12.4.1. If there are version 12
updates, how do I get them, and avoid installing 13.3, which I
absolutely do not want to do?
On 12/24/2019 1:57 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
I don't know how long they will last, but we got a security update today, to
12.4.4.
don't get security updates if you stay on IOS 12.
Mr. Ed
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Kelly Pierce
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 9:47 PM
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How about
Also you don't get security updates if you stay on IOS 12.
Mr. Ed
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How
How about the automatic battery conservation feature? I like how iOS
13 is designed to increase wear and tear on the battery, extending its
life.
Kelly
On 12/23/19, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:
> I will still not by choice update my iPhone 8 to IOS 13. My iPhone is
> working perfectly fine for
I will still not by choice update my iPhone 8 to IOS 13. My iPhone is
working perfectly fine for me at present. I can't think of anything
about IOS 13 that would make me want to update.
On 12/23/19, Holly wrote:
> Richard:
>
> Thanks. I didn’t mind the clicks, but they were just too loud.
Richard:
Thanks. I didn’t mind the clicks, but they were just too loud. Adjusted them
down to an acceptable level for me.
All is good now.
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Richard:
Turning off ‘sounds’ stopped the clicking noise while swiping. As I remembered
in the old version, the clicks were there, but they were not as loud.
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Richard:
Turning off ‘sounds’ stopped the clicking noise while swiping. As I remembered
in the old version, the clicks were there, but they were not as loud.
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So, if you want VoiceOver silent when flicking, did you try going to
Accessibility, VoiceOver, Audio, Sound, and turning it off there?
That seems to turn off all the sounds.
Or, you can go through each sound setting in there and preview each one and
then decide if you want to turn it off.
The
Gordon:
Couldn't find anything in the audio section that seemed to pertain to the
clicks.
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It's been a little while since I've turned that stuff off on my phone,
but I think you'll go to settings, accessibility, voice over and then
audio if I remember correctly.
On 12/23/2019 4:38 PM, Holly wrote:
Hi all:
Finally took the plunge and updated to 13.3. All good so far.
I know it
Hi all:
Finally took the plunge and updated to 13.3. All good so far.
I know it has been discussed before but forgot how to get rid of the clicks
when swiping through a page on the screen.
I went to settings, sounds and hapticks, but could not tell which option
should be turned off.
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