Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

2023-05-24 Thread 'Angie Nutt' via VIPhone
Not sure I agree it’s petty as it decreases efficiency if one is dependent on braille. I do agree though with those who say there is no such thing as bug free software. All the best Angie > On 24 May 2023, at 00:17, Jennie Facer wrote: > > Well said, Scott!! > > There is always

Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

2023-05-23 Thread Jennie Facer
Well said, Scott!! There is always something to gripe about. No software is going to be bug free, and this is a small thing, because for the most part, there are workarounds. I could see getting upset if they took accessibility away from us permanently, but this is petty. Come on, now. We

Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

2023-05-23 Thread Devin Prater
Right. Google Play Books just now got the ability to turn pages when TalkBack gets to the end of the current page. As of like a few weeks ago. On 5/23/2023 1:56 PM, Scott Davert wrote: Hi all. It's a pretty serious bug when you don't have the luxury of audio books or listening with speech.

Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

2023-05-23 Thread Scott Davert
Hi all. It's a pretty serious bug when you don't have the luxury of audio books or listening with speech. That said, Davy, I encourage you to try reading a book on Android, any version of the OS, and tell me why Apple's feature which worked pretty well is somehow less sue worthy than Android. What

one workaround RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

2023-05-23 Thread davycuppens
Hi Sieghard That is the case, but for all people reading kindle books or have other applications blocking when moving tot he next page with the panning keys, press space+o to fulfill this task until the bug is fixed. Davy Van: viphone@googlegroups.com Namens Sieghard Weitzel

RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

2023-05-23 Thread davycuppens
Sieghard it is an overall braille bug just check the forums on Applevis. Davy Van: viphone@googlegroups.com Namens Sieghard Weitzel Verzonden: dinsdag 23 mei 2023 6:55 Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to

RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

2023-05-23 Thread Cristóbal Muñoz
There’s still that annoying dictation bug where what you say is often inserted twice, but not a show stopper per se. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 9:55 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for

Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

2023-05-23 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
I don't use a braille display with my iPhone by choice, although, if I wanted, I could use my BI40X display. It is very common to have braille bugs when an update for IOS comes out. This is nothing new and shouldn't surprise anyone. I strongly urge anyone who isn't updated to IOS 16, to do so.

RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

2023-05-22 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Sorry, I lost track of Davy's tremendous bug reports, just realized he is talking about an iOS 16.5 braille issue not a facebook issue. I'm not a braille user so I can't comment on that one. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 9:55 PM To:

RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

2023-05-22 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Might be time to give Android a try. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of davycupp...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 1:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5 And for all US citizens, report

RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

2023-05-22 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I'd be interested in what exactly these iOS 16 bugs are you mention. At this point iOS 16 is about as mature as it will get with as few issues as iOS 15. Just today the iOS 16.6 public beta was released and it is likely that iOS 16.6 will be the final version of iOS 16, there may of course be

Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

2023-05-22 Thread Michael Irons
I did not even get iOS 16 because all of the problems people kept talking about I’m still hanging back on the latest version of iOS 15. Sent from my iPhone > On May 22, 2023, at 1:51 PM, Anna Dresner wrote: > > Hi, > > I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything

RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

2023-05-22 Thread Star Gazer
It’s a bug, it will get fixed. I’m missing some posts here but hey if someone wants to sue Apple, they hve that right. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of alia robinson Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 5:55 PM To:

Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

2023-05-22 Thread alia robinson
it’s ridiculous to talk about suing apple over this. it’s not like they did it purposefully so blind people can’t use their products. do you know how many bugs sighted people deal with too? not everything is about us being blind. > On May 22, 2023, at 4:28 PM, Ed Worrell wrote: > > Hello, >

RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

2023-05-22 Thread Dennis Long
Davy Good luck finding a bug free platform when you find it let me know. Oh wait it doesn’t exist. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of davycupp...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 4:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail

Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

2023-05-22 Thread CHELA Robles
I agree with Ed. Also, David coupons messages when reading with voiceover sounds like it’s in another language even though it’s technically an English it’s reading in a different text to speech voice and it sounds really weird. Even though, I have my language automatically set to English and I

Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

2023-05-22 Thread Ed Worrell
Hello, While this is a bug, I don’t think that it’s worth threatening to sue Apple over. It takes some time in the development world to fix bugs, and to get them approved in the update cycle. I think that you will have better luck with reporting bugs through Apple Accessibility, than getting

RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

2023-05-22 Thread davycuppens
And for all US citizens, report tot he federation of the blind maybe their lawyers can send some legal letters to Apple or start some legal action. I am fed up wit all those nasty bugs! Apple must stop making publicity fort heir accessibilitiy enhancements in ios17 if they are not even able to

RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

2023-05-22 Thread davycuppens
Hi Anna then report again and again over and over again: today, tomorrow until they fix it. Please folks start to push pressure on Apple, do it now! Davy Van: viphone@googlegroups.com Namens Anna Dresner Verzonden: maandag 22 mei 2023 20:51 Aan: VIPhone Mailing List Onderwerp: Re: new

Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

2023-05-22 Thread CHELA Robles
Well, I already have 16.5.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 22, 2023, at 12:55 PM, Jennie Facer wrote:A work around is to turn the setting that says turn pages while panning off. Make sure it is off, then when your first page runs out, press o plus spacebar and it should advance you to the next

Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

2023-05-22 Thread Jennie Facer
A work around is to turn the setting that says turn pages while panning off. Make sure it is off, then when your first page runs out, press o plus spacebar and it should advance you to the next page.JennJenn and KumiOn May 22, 2023, at 1:08 PM, Richard Turner wrote:You may also want to alert the

Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

2023-05-22 Thread Richard Turner
You may also want to alert the Voice Dream Reader folks in case they can do something about it. supp...@voicedream.comRichard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site:

Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

2023-05-22 Thread Anna Dresner
Hi, I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything works fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally, but once it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I hear a thunk sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the

Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

2023-05-22 Thread Devin Prater
Yep, that’s it. Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com Https://devinprater.micro.blog > On May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert wrote: > > Hello. > I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI > 20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing some >

Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

2023-05-22 Thread Scott Davert
Hello. I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI 20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing some problems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issues and I'm not aware? Scott On 5/22/23, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote: > Folks > > For

new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

2023-05-22 Thread davycuppens
Folks For brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Apple accessibility NOW, do it NOW! The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not work as they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't. This bug has been introduced in ios16.5.