[vmeet] Length of the Draft

2012-03-30 Thread Marshall Eubanks
This is a request made by Paul based on a statement made by Randy Bush at the face to face BOF : He feels that the document is too long and too complicated and should only be ~ 4 pages. Paul would like discussion of this point under a separate thread (i.e., this one). Regards Marshall

[vmeet] Things to remember that don't go in the requirements document

2012-03-30 Thread Rosen, Brian
There are requirements on vendors that won't make it into the requirements document: 1. Need on site support in every room during meetings 2. Need potential vendors to attend IETF meetings prior to bidding 3. Need to have potential bidders actually provide the service at a meeting before we

[vmeet] Floor control

2012-03-30 Thread Simon Pietro Romano
Hi all, I did not make the comment at today's meeting, since I did not want to take too much time out of the busy agenda. Though, I would like to insist on one point raised by Joel, related to the need for floor control. Indeed, I do believe this becomes a mandatory requirement, especially

Re: [vmeet] Issue: is PSTN access really required?

2012-03-30 Thread Yoav Nir
On Mar 30, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Dean Willis wrote: From today's meeting, taking to list. Remote participation for users connecting via the PSTN though gateways into a VoIP conference platform raises some issues. One of these is registration . There are hacks like PINs that can be made to

Re: [vmeet] Issue: is PSTN access really required?

2012-03-30 Thread Yoav Nir
On Mar 30, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Dean Willis wrote: From today's meeting, taking to list. Remote participation for users connecting via the PSTN though gateways into a VoIP conference platform raises some issues. One of these is registration . There are hacks like PINs that can be made to

Re: [vmeet] Issue: is PSTN access really required?

2012-03-30 Thread Yoav Nir
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Re: [vmeet] Issue: is PSTN access really required?

2012-03-30 Thread Russ Housley
Dean: From today's meeting, taking to list. Remote participation for users connecting via the PSTN though gateways into a VoIP conference platform raises some issues. One of these is registration . There are hacks like PINs that can be made to work. But to me, the biggest problem is

Re: [vmeet] Issue: is PSTN access really required?

2012-03-30 Thread Dave Cridland
On Fri Mar 30 14:01:52 2012, Yoav Nir wrote: I disagree that providing service to people connecting from PSTN or through a gateway from the wrong software (like Skype) needs have any effect on the service provided for the other remote participants. People might be excluded because they are

Re: [vmeet] [BOFCHAIRS] Remote participation

2012-03-30 Thread SM
Hi John, At 15:14 30-03-2012, John C Klensin wrote: Just so we understand what we are talking about, that means all eight tracks, plus the plenaries? My recollection of how much Yes. skilled transcribers can do at a time combined with the length of our day, is that would mean at least 10

Re: [vmeet] [BOFCHAIRS] Remote participation

2012-03-30 Thread John C Klensin
--On Friday, March 30, 2012 16:18 -0700 SM s...@resistor.net wrote: Hi John, At 15:14 30-03-2012, John C Klensin wrote: Just so we understand what we are talking about, that means all eight tracks, plus the plenaries? My recollection of how much Yes. skilled transcribers can do at a

Re: [vmeet] Issue: is PSTN access really required?

2012-03-30 Thread Martin J. Dürst
On 2012/03/30 22:15, Marshall Eubanks wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Dave Cridlandd...@cridland.net wrote: On Fri Mar 30 14:01:52 2012, Yoav Nir wrote: I have carried my laptop up to the mike when channeling people precisely so that there could be some amount of interaction when

Re: [vmeet] Issue: is PSTN access really required?

2012-03-30 Thread Martin J. Dürst
Personal experience from yesterday, being a remote presenter for about half of the session in the IRI WG meeting: - Meetecho gave a lot of options for audio. When testing, the Java stuff didn't work, but Skypeout from Japan into the Italian Meetecho PSTN number worked. - The echo was tough,