Re: [vmeet] Issue: is PSTN access really required?

2012-04-02 Thread Dean Willis
On Mar 30, 2012, at 7:41 AM, Russ Housley wrote: I therefore propose that our remote participation system neither require nor support dial-in telephone numbers. This assumption can greatly simplify the system, reduce operating expense, and reduce the probability of systemic marginal

Re: [vmeet] Issue: is PSTN access really required?

2012-04-02 Thread Dean Willis
On Mar 30, 2012, at 11:31 PM, Martin J. Dürst wrote: On 2012/03/30 22:15, Marshall Eubanks wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Dave Cridlandd...@cridland.net wrote: On Fri Mar 30 14:01:52 2012, Yoav Nir wrote: I have carried my laptop up to the mike when channeling people precisely

Re: [vmeet] Issue: is PSTN access really required?

2012-03-30 Thread Yoav Nir
On Mar 30, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Dean Willis wrote: From today's meeting, taking to list. Remote participation for users connecting via the PSTN though gateways into a VoIP conference platform raises some issues. One of these is registration . There are hacks like PINs that can be made to

Re: [vmeet] Issue: is PSTN access really required?

2012-03-30 Thread Yoav Nir
On Mar 30, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Dean Willis wrote: From today's meeting, taking to list. Remote participation for users connecting via the PSTN though gateways into a VoIP conference platform raises some issues. One of these is registration . There are hacks like PINs that can be made to

Re: [vmeet] Issue: is PSTN access really required?

2012-03-30 Thread Yoav Nir
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Re: [vmeet] Issue: is PSTN access really required?

2012-03-30 Thread Russ Housley
Dean: From today's meeting, taking to list. Remote participation for users connecting via the PSTN though gateways into a VoIP conference platform raises some issues. One of these is registration . There are hacks like PINs that can be made to work. But to me, the biggest problem is

Re: [vmeet] Issue: is PSTN access really required?

2012-03-30 Thread Dave Cridland
On Fri Mar 30 14:01:52 2012, Yoav Nir wrote: I disagree that providing service to people connecting from PSTN or through a gateway from the wrong software (like Skype) needs have any effect on the service provided for the other remote participants. People might be excluded because they are

Re: [vmeet] Issue: is PSTN access really required?

2012-03-30 Thread Martin J. Dürst
On 2012/03/30 22:15, Marshall Eubanks wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Dave Cridlandd...@cridland.net wrote: On Fri Mar 30 14:01:52 2012, Yoav Nir wrote: I have carried my laptop up to the mike when channeling people precisely so that there could be some amount of interaction when

Re: [vmeet] Issue: is PSTN access really required?

2012-03-30 Thread Martin J. Dürst
Personal experience from yesterday, being a remote presenter for about half of the session in the IRI WG meeting: - Meetecho gave a lot of options for audio. When testing, the Java stuff didn't work, but Skypeout from Japan into the Italian Meetecho PSTN number worked. - The echo was tough,