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From: vnc-list-boun...@realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-boun...@realvnc.com]
On Behalf Of Rob Newman
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 12:24 PM
To: vnc-list@realvnc.com
Subject: Re: Newbie question: vncserver running on port :25,need to
attach Perl script to this when it
> "Rob" == Rob Newman writes:
Rob> I have a vnc server that I have got running on port
Rob> localhost:25 via the command:
Rob> vncserver.rt :25 -name "My Display" -geometry 1024x1000
Rob> -localhost
Rob> I have a Perl script that I normally run from the X11 command
Hi Phil,
Thanks so much for the reply, however I think I didn't explain my
problem clearly. The script is already on the same server, I just need
the Perl script to attach to a display port (localhost:25 in this
case) when it is run nightly via cron, as the script creates images
that need
-Original Message-
From: vnc-list-boun...@realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-boun...@realvnc.co
m] On Behalf Of Rob Newman
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 3:13 PM
To: vnc-list@realvnc.com
Subject: Newbie question: vncserver running on port :25,need to attach
Perl script to this when it executes
Hi there VNC gurus,
I have what I think is a pretty standard question, but I cannot seem
to figure it out in the usual way (man pages, web search, etc).
I have a vnc server that I have got running on port localhost:25 via
the command:
vncserver.rt :25 -name "My Display" -geometry 1024x1000 -
Hi Paul,
You can upgrade over an active 4.1.1 installation.
Cheers,
Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Bickley
> Sent: 07 June 2006 02:18
> To: vnc-list@realvnc.com
> Subject: Newbie ques
To resolve the security vulnerability with 4.1.1 should I unistall it and
reinstall with 4.1.2 or will an upgrade over 4.1.1 fix it?
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Be quick, these Dell end of financial year deals cant last!
http://clk.atdmt.com/OMA/go/dau0100
0:33 AM
To: 'vnc-list@realvnc.com'
Subject: vnc on ibm aix 5.3.0.4 Newbie question.
Hello,
We have installed vnc from the aixtoolbox CD for ibm aix 5.3l,
Attempting to start vnc with
As root,vncserver :1
cat server1:1.log
10/05/06 09:47:01 Xvnc version 3.3.3r2
10/05/06 0
Hello,
We have installed vnc from the aixtoolbox CD for ibm aix 5.3l,
Attempting to start vnc with
As root,vncserver :1
cat server1:1.log
10/05/06 09:47:01 Xvnc version 3.3.3r2
10/05/06 09:47:01 Copyright (C) AT&T Laboratories Cambridge.
10/05/06 09:47:01 All Rights Reserved.
10/0
Arthur Simpatico napisal(a):
>
> This is a MUCH asked question here. Try starting here
> http://www.realvnc.com/faq.html since all of your questions can be answered
> there.
(in response to:)
> I have a fixed IP address for my broadband connection and connect via a
> Belkin wireless router (alt
http://www.cloudmark.com/sig/?rc=f9r9z
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Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 5:42 PM
To: vnc-list@realvnc.com
Subject: Newbie question
Hi
Just subscribed so sorry if this is a stupid often asked questio
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Richard Armstrong wrote:
> Hi
> Just subscribed so sorry if this is a stupid often asked question but
>
> I've been using VNC successfully for a while communicating across my
> local network computers (I have peer to peer) and for communicating
Hi
Just subscribed so sorry if this is a stupid often asked question
but
I've been using VNC successfully for a while communicating across my
local network computers (I have peer to peer) and for communicating with
a remote system via a standard modem. Now I want to allow a mate to
acces
I've recently installed RealVNC on a WinXP machine and had intended to
control it via a wireless connnection from another WinXP machine. I've
managed to get everything to work under the User-Mode. However, when I
try the Service-Mode, it seems to stop working. Initially I thought I
might have disab
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Subject: Re: newbie question
Wez:
Heya. I need to politely disagree: if Scott's wife
was on a network behind an unconfigured firewall/router, your
suggestion doesn't fully address his needs -- if she were using
a dialup modem only
C Ltd.
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott C. Best [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 27 April 2005 17:46
> To: vnc-list@realvnc.com
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: newbie question
>
> Wez:
>
> Heya. I need to politely d
Wez:
Heya. I need to politely disagree: if Scott's wife
was on a network behind an unconfigured firewall/router, your
suggestion doesn't fully address his needs -- if she were using
a dialup modem only, of course it would. But if not, then the
unknown firewall/router issue is a much more su
then keeps
that name up to date with the current IP address of the machine.
Regards,
Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
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> Sent: 25 April 2005 15:38
> To: vnc-list@realvnc.com
&g
Scott:
Heya. There are two good and easy solutions I know of
which are built upon VNC components:
1. First is "UltraVNC SC": "www.ultravnc.com". With it, your wife
would startup the server, and it would be pre-configured to
connect back just to you, where a VNC Viewer in "Listner Mode
: Monday, April 25, 2005 11:16 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; vnc-list@realvnc.com
Subject: RE: newbie question
Easiest way is to 1) Use something that has encryption built-in, such as
Zebedee (includes a VNC-based app, but also encryption) or the
"Enterprise" version of RealVNC. 2)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 10:38 AM
To: vnc-list@realvnc.com
Subject: newbie question
Dear List:
I am a vnc newbie. Here's what I'd like to be able to do. My wife uses a
laptop, most often at home, connected wireless
Dear List:
I am a vnc newbie. Here's what I'd like to be able to do. My wife uses a
laptop, most often at home, connected wirelessly to the internet at home.
Occasionally she travels for business.
I'd like to have vncserver just running all the time on her laptop, so that
whenever I need to help
@realvnc.com
Subject: Newbie question: how to use VNC on machine behind firewall
Hello,
yes I read the FAQ about how to do it, but what I
would like to do is a little bit more complicated.
I would like to ask if it is possible to reach a
computer behind a firewall the IP address of which is
invisible
There are a couple ways to do this
1. use a third party tunnel (e.g. kaboodle)
2. try Hamachi (which is a peer-to-peer networking app (think kazaa
for networking)
(am I gonna get list smackdon for mentioning this ;)
3. If you control the firewall on the viewer side, or the viewer side
Hello,
yes I read the FAQ about how to do it, but what I
would like to do is a little bit more complicated.
I would like to ask if it is possible to reach a
computer behind a firewall the IP address of which is
invisible where I haven't got the opportunity to
change anything in the firewall.
So wh
> In your router you need to "forward" the
> vnc port. A router can allow
> many computers to share the same internet
> connection, when you
> initiate the traffic from 'inside' the lan
> the router knows that any
> responses (e.g. a web page) goes back to
> the computer that sent it.
> But what h
Angelo,
Thanks for the response
> 1. Do you have a router or firewall
> between your computer and the modem?
I have a wireless router, but not a firewall.
> 2. Are you running windows xp servie pack
> 2 with the internet
> firewall enabled?
I don't believe so. How could I check for
A couple things,
1. Do you have a router or firewall between your computer and the modem?
2. Are you running windows xp servie pack 2 with the internet
firewall enabled?
3. Do you have a virus protection program that has a firewall
(sometimes also called "worm protection")
--Angelo
On W
I just downloaded and installed the client and server.
I ran the server, setup the password, and successfully connected from my own
computer (getting the echo effect).
I then had a friend download the viewer and attempt to connect to the IP
address listed in my task bar (which I read to him).
gt;
>-Original Message-
>From: James Weatherall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 5:35 AM
>To: Kevin Duffy; vnc-list@realvnc.com
>Subject: RE: newbie question
>
>
>Kevin,
>
>If the Windows machine is running Windows XP SP2, you'll ne
Weatherall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 5:35 AM
To: Kevin Duffy; vnc-list@realvnc.com
Subject: RE: newbie question
Kevin,
If the Windows machine is running Windows XP SP2, you'll need to disable its
firewall, or make VNC Server an Exception to it (VNC Enterprise Ed
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Duffy
> Sent: 26 January 2005 03:00
> To: vnc-list@realvnc.com
> Subject: newbie question
>
> Hello:
>
> I am attempting the connect to a Windows machine running the
>
Hello:
I am attempting the connect to a Windows machine running the VNC Enterprise
server.
To do this I did the following:
On the firewall of the LAN for the VNC Enterprise server forward port 5900
to the server machine.
On the remote machine download VNC Enterprise Viewer.
Run the vie
Hi;
We're a small company that uses TightVNVC to do remote customer support. We
have a small Windows network with a Linksys router. Right now to connect to
a customer we forward port 5500 to our persons IP address.
The problem is that only one of our people can use this at a time.
is it possible
Your xp box most liekely does use dns, Im not even sure if you can
disable it in 2000/XP.
Anyways
Here is one solution...(this should work)
1. Go to DynDNS.org and sign up for a free account.
a. You need to pick a domain/host e.g. linuxbox1.dyndns.org
b. You will need o
Arun wrote:
I physically goto the linux machine and lookup what
the ip address is. All these machines sit besides me
in the lab.
To get the IP Address of a linux box, open a xterm or something similar
and try:
ifconfig
If that doesn't work try:
. /sbin/ifconfig
If that doesn't work then you most
I physically goto the linux machine and lookup what
the ip address is. All these machines sit besides me
in the lab.
--- Angelo Sarto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How do you find out the IP's of the linux machines?
>
> Is there any place on your xp machine e.g. network
> neighborhood, etc
> wher
I goto the linux machine and type ifconfig to
determine the linux machine's ip.
Get its ip and then use it everytime on vnc to connect
to it.
But i cant see the linux machine from xp.
--- Angelo Sarto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How do you find out the IP's of the linux machines?
>
> Is ther
ngelo Sarto
Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com
Subject: Re: Newbie question
I dont have the choice of making them static.
Iam not the admin. I dont run the dns server either.
But everything is on one Lan.
And you right. I can't ping computername from my xp
box.
--- Angelo Sarto <[EMAIL PROT
How do you find out the IP's of the linux machines?
Is there any place on your xp machine e.g. network neighborhood, etc
where you can see the linux machines?
--Angelo
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:18:20 -0800 (PST), Arun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I dont have the choice of making them static.
> Ia
I dont have the choice of making them static.
Iam not the admin. I dont run the dns server either.
But everything is on one Lan.
And you right. I can't ping computername from my xp
box.
--- Angelo Sarto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> since they have dynamic IP's there is not a way for
> vnc to dete
since they have dynamic IP's there is not a way for vnc to determine
their IP from their name without dns.
This has to do with the IP stack not necessarily vnc. e.g. "ping
computername" form your xp box does not work either, I bet.
If you are the one assigning dhcp to the clients you could make
I have a bunch of linux clients.
The linux clients run x0rfbserver.sh.
All the linux clients have dynamic IP's.
I use the vnc viewer on my windows xp machine to
connect to these machnines.
Everytime when i want to connect to these linux
clients from the xp machine, i have to give the ip
address.
ople always make.
For more information, please consult the on-line doc and FAQ.
> -Message d'origine-
> De : Kath Pelletti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Envoyi : mardi 1 juin 2004 07:00
> @ : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Objet : Newbie question - windows startup
>
>
Hi - I have just installed VNC for a client to allow me to access his PC (Win
XP Pro on both client and server).
But he does not want VNC to startup automatically - only when / as needed. I
am happy to only use this when the client is logged on and at the PC - what do
I change in the setup?
(And
Lauren:
Heya. It sounds as the other PC's in your library simply
already had VNC installed on them, by an administrator-level user.
So installing VNC again as a non-administrator...it sounds like
you got the right error messages. :)
FWIW, there are many "VNC-helper" apps out there
3 19:26
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: newbie question from a non-tech person
>
>
> Hope that qualified it enough that this sort of thing really isn't my
> expertise. Nonetheless, I have to install the VNC server on
> all of the
> Internet access
Hope that qualified it enough that this sort of thing really isn't my
expertise. Nonetheless, I have to install the VNC server on all of the
Internet accessible computers in our library. I have the viewer installed on
my computer with no problems but am having some problems installing the VNC
ser
] said:
> Hi -
>
> I hope someone can help.
> This is a newbie question, if the answer is obvious, please let me know.
>
> I intend to install VPN as a way of adminstering friends PCs remotely.
>
> My setup is
>
> My computer (running the VPN server) - connected to a AD
Michael,
The way you do this is that you (the would be controller) run the VNC
Viewer in listening mode, the other people (the controlled) run the VNC
Server and "add clients". This means that the only IP address that
needs to be known is yours.
Note, your friends run the server, you run the
On 11/25/2003 06:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My friends computer(s) (client) - connected to a router - connected to ADSL
First, you would have to tell the router to forward the VNC port inward to his
computer.
Second, DON'T DO THAT! Instead, you want something with a bit more security than
Hi -
I hope someone can help.
This is a newbie question, if the answer is obvious, please let me know.
I intend to install VPN as a way of adminstering friends PCs remotely.
My setup is
My computer (running the VPN server) - connected to a ADSL Modem
My friends computer(s) (client
Michael,
The way you do this is that you (the would be controller) run the VNC
Viewer in listening mode, the other people (the controlled) run the VNC
Server and "add clients".
Regards, Andrew Borland (UK)
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Hello all.
I am sure this has been asked before, but I just don't know how to search for
the answer in the archives, so my apologies in advance. BTW, VNC is very
cool.
I would like to be able to have people, using VNC, "attach to me" over the
internet and then me be able to "control their screen"
Hello to the group!
This is my first post here, hope the question is not silly. I've read the
faq but that didn't help, so I hope the brain trust will have an answer :)
I've got a computer (Win2k) with RealVNC Server and ZoneAlarm firewall
running. I want to connect to that computer from my hom
Please send replies to the list.
Greg Council said:
> Here are the results. Basically it looks like this server (with
> preinstalled linux looks like xfree isn't installed - correct? when I do a
> grep on the package, I get a couple of libraries but that's it.
>
> which xauth
> which: no xauth in
Greg Council said:
> Installed and try to run vncserver from command shell and get the
> following statement:
>
> vncserver: couldn't find "xauth" on your PATH.
>
> The vnc site says something about editing the perl script - ???
The default VNC script should be able to find xauth. What is the out
Installed and try to run vncserver from command shell and get the following statement:
vncserver: couldn't find "xauth" on your PATH.
The vnc site says something about editing the perl script - ???
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To remove y
the help. I'm gradually getting this stuff. The problem is that
>I'm brand new to Linux, as well as dealing with the VNC issues.
>
>Justin
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Michael Milette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 5:08 PM
>
tual slackerness
>thereafter. ;-)
>
>Justin
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Kelly F. Hickel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 10:04 AM
>To: Justin Fields; Michael Milette
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: VNC under RedHat 8.0 (was
Justin Fields wrote:
> Where my desire for VNC came in was sheer laziness. Who wants to get up and
> walk over to the server room and work on a KVM, when I could do it all from
> my desk? In typical IT fashion, I'd rather bang my head against a wall for a
> brief while and figure out how to insure
has do to with setting the correct display
value during the initialization scripts
>
> So close
>
> Thanks for the help. I'm gradually getting this stuff. The problem is that
> I'm brand new to Linux, as well as dealing with the VNC issues.
>
> Justin
>
>
11, 2002 10:04 AM
To: Justin Fields; Michael Milette
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: VNC under RedHat 8.0 (was RE: Linux VNC Newbie Question)
You need to make sure that you are properly setting the DISPLAY
environment variable in your shells. I've seen a lot of people write
"ex
hael Milette'
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: VNC under RedHat 8.0 (was RE: Linux VNC Newbie Question)
When I chose VNC in the initial install, only the viewer was installed.
Same
as you. I went back and added the server component from CD #3 by
selecting
the server package and i
hat
I'm brand new to Linux, as well as dealing with the VNC issues.
Justin
-Original Message-
From: Michael Milette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 5:08 PM
To: Justin Fields; 'Tim Waugh'
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: VNC under RedHa
Michael Milette wrote:
> - I haven't figured out how to do remote screen takeover of the currently
> running gnome console session. The above information will start a new gnome
> session. If anyone has a suggestion or two on how to do this (to enable me
> to do remote user support), it would be ap
or the fast and helpful reply.
>
>Justin
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Tim Waugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 8:22 AM
>To: Justin Fields
>Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>Subject: Re: Linux VNC Newbie Question
>
>
>On Tue,
t and helpful reply.
Justin
-Original Message-
From: Tim Waugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 8:22 AM
To: Justin Fields
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: Linux VNC Newbie Question
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 07:46:49AM -0500, Justin Fields wrote:
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 07:46:49AM -0500, Justin Fields wrote:
> I got a fresh download of VNC installed on one of the new
> machines,
That was your mistake. :-)
As shipped, Red Hat Linux 8.0 comes with VNC, complete with a default
configuration to use the Bluecurve theme. You just had to run
'
Hi.
I've used VNC on Windows boxes for awhile, and I've found it easy to use and
quite helpful. Now I am integrating some Linux (RedHat 8) boxes into our
organization. I got a fresh download of VNC installed on one of the new
machines, and use the VNC viewer to connect from a Windows machine. The
Hi,
I have VNC Server Installed on a WIN2k WS. Has been working fine till a
couple of days ago. If the machine is at the windows logon banner no
password works to access VNC but if the machine is already logged in you
can get into VNC and use it remotely. I am confused as the VNC Service is
inst
Message -
> From: "Beerse, Corni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, 2002-06-10 02:25
> Subject: RE: ;-) (was: RE: Newbie question)
>
>
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Alex K. Angelopoulos [mailto:
LOL!
- Original Message -
From: "Beerse, Corni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, 2002-06-10 02:25
Subject: RE: ;-) (was: RE: Newbie question)
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Alex K. Angelopoulos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTE
> -Original Message-
> From: Alex K. Angelopoulos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> The day you go into commercial mode, Corne, I'm going to
> start spelling your
> name with a Euro symbol... ;-)
I will show a general commercial mode by signing with "BEUREUR.
CBee ;-)
>
> >
> > You're get
The day you go into commercial mode, Corne, I'm going to start spelling your
name with a Euro symbol... ;-)
>
> You're getting close. It's just that if I'm in the non-commercial mode, I
> tend to indicate commercial terms with commercial signs.
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> That's your problem - you are running VNC in App mode. In the Start menu
> entries for
> VNC you should see two entries to Install VNC service and Start VNC
> service. Make
> sure you are logged in as an Administrator when you do this. It should ask
> you for a
> password at this stage, and this
On 6 Jun 2002 at 8:37, Gary Wong wrote:
> > Not sure if this is your problem, but with Windows you need to run VNC as
> > a
> > service for sending of a ctrl-alt-del to work.
>
> As far as I know, this is what I am doing. On the computer I want to view
> (server), I do Run VNC (app mode) from t
> Not sure if this is your problem, but with Windows you need to run VNC as
> a
> service for sending of a ctrl-alt-del to work.
As far as I know, this is what I am doing. On the computer I want to view
(server), I do Run VNC (app mode) from the Start menu, and from the client
side, I run the VN
m not sure what the problem might be.
John S. Fetzik
> -Original Message-
> From: Gary Wong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 7:30 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: VNC newbie question
>
>
> Hi:
>
> I have been usi
Hi:
I have been using VNC for a while, but have had a problem with sending
ctrl-alt-del commands, and also screen locks. I have asked other local
(Vancouver, Canada) users I know about this and they are baffled.
General Info:
Windows 2000 and XP (3 different machines) - two on my work network,
> -Original Message-
> From: Bubba Sixtoes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Is there something wrong with your keyboard? It appears that
> whenever you
> type an "S" after an "M", the "S" mysteriously has a "|"
> superimposed on it.
> I once had a similar problem that interfered with my "e",
>
n help you sort this out. Don't be concerned that it's
not VNC-related ... people on this list are happy to help people such as
yourself who are just starting out with computers.
- Original Message -
From: "Beerse, Corni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROT
> -Original Message-
> From: Raghavendra Prasad
> This is my first attempt to VNC. I installed VNC
> server on Windows NT and
> was able to view from another NT Workstation using Run VNCviewer.
>
> Next, I installed VNC server on Solaris system and
> tried to access from a
Hi all,
This is my first attempt to VNC. I installed VNC server on Windows NT and
was able to view from another NT Workstation using Run VNCviewer.
Next, I installed VNC server on Solaris system and tried to access from an
NT system. After the password authentication, I am getti
ecorner.com/articles/vnc/linux.asp .
CBee
>
> I'm off to the website to check it out, thanks.
>
>
> From: "Beerse,_Corni"
> Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 10:23:39 +0200
> To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: Newbie
startup
Log file is /home/myusername/.vnc/mahcinename:1.log
I'm off to the website to check it out, thanks.
From: "Beerse,_Corni"
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 10:23:39 +0200
To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Newbie Question
> &
> -Original Message-
> From: Sasha McLaughlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
>
> I am trying to set up a VNC server on a Red hat 7.2
> machine. I have NO IDEA what I'm doing here, help me.
First see if vncserver runs as documented on the website.
At the server machine, start `vncserver`
I am trying to set up a VNC server on a Red hat 7.2
machine. I have NO IDEA what I'm doing here, help me.
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