RE: Robert Carroll

2005-05-04 Thread Mark Goldes
Hi Keith, His name is Keith Trenton. Believe me, no moss would dare grow anywhere near him. At some point in the future he may find his way back into the Carroll work with its many implications, but it would require a pretty hefty budget. We tried to find government funding to explore some of

Re: Long Delayed Echoes

2005-05-04 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Wed, 04 May 2005 16:47:02 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Good point. It would have to be a point source. Even a dipole has >directionality. True, but you would have to be very lucky to point it's blind spot right at the source. > >Harry Veeder wrote: > >>What form w

Re: Pykrete was RE: BLP implementation path

2005-05-04 Thread Standing Bear
On Tuesday 03 May 2005 12:09, Keith Nagel wrote: > Google "Pykrete" and you'll find a wealth of information > about this odd bit of history. > > http://www.cabinetmagazine.org/issues/7/floatingisland.php > > K. > > -Original Message- > From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tu

RE: Robert Carroll

2005-05-04 Thread Keith Nagel
Hey Mark, you write: >At least one young scientist believes he was more correct than most will >allow. You ought to let the poor boy out of the basement for some air, he must have moss growing between his toes at this point. It would probably help you more than hurt. Just a thought *smile* K

Ramp climb and drop at 1 frame / sec

2005-05-04 Thread Prometheus Effect
Guys, Here is a ramp climb and drop at 1 frame / sec. http://www.myfilehut.com/userfiles/prometheus_effect/ClimbandDropFramebyFrame.avi Note the ball has no starting KE and no horizontal KE on the vertical exit. The rotation about the exit point does induce some rotational KE but I don't measure

More Mills stuff ( are you reading Mike C? )

2005-05-04 Thread Keith Nagel
Hey Stephen, You write: >He has lots of interesting results but if he has anything absolutely >airtight in the way of a public demonstration of something really new I >must have overlooked mention of it. This ain't academia. You gots to pay to play. >He has a theory which requires throwing out Q

Re: 1997 - 2005 the missing SMOT years

2005-05-04 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Jed Rothwell wrote: [ ... ] Mills is much, much better and far more credible than people like the Methernitha crowd, Greg Watson, or for that matter Correa. But he still has a wide credibility gap, and he still has not made a real effort to convince people. The last thing he told me, years ago,

Re: How would you calculate KE

2005-05-04 Thread Prometheus Effect
--- "Stephen A. Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Obviously the KE is actually a little higher than > that if the horizontal velocity is nonzero, There is almost no horizontal ball velocity on exit but the ball does have some rotational KE which I don't attempt to measure. To get a good ex

Re: 1997 - 2005 the missing SMOT years

2005-05-04 Thread Prometheus Effect
--- Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Exactly right. What is it strange is that many of > the people making these claims, including some well > educated ones, do not seem to realize this. Hi Jed, So can I ship you a SMOT and the measurement system so you can prove the data I'm seeing i

Re: How would you calculate KE

2005-05-04 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Prometheus Effect wrote: --- "Stephen A. Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just measure x0, x1, t0, and t1, plug them in, and you get v0. Then to find v1, v1 = v0 + a*Dt Hi Stephen, I'm using Final Velocity = average velocity + g * transit time / 2. Then final KE = 1/2m * Final Velocit

RE: Windom & Larsen paper

2005-05-04 Thread Keith Nagel
Hey Jed, you write: >I am surprised they managed to sneak this into the archive. I predicted >will soon be yanked out. It certainly will if you post the cached URL. Here's the link with some staying power. http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/cond-mat/0505026 With 25 documents already filed, Widom will not

Re: How would you calculate KE

2005-05-04 Thread Prometheus Effect
--- "Stephen A. Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please stop cross-posting to Vortex and other > groups. OK. > Just measure x0, x1, t0, and t1, plug them in, and > you get v0. Then > to find v1, > > v1 = v0 + a*Dt Hi Stephen, I'm using Final Velocity = average velocity + g * transit ti

Windom & Larsen paper

2005-05-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
David Nagel thinks this paper may be germane to CF, for obvious reasons: http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/cond-mat/pdf/0505/0505026.pdf Ultra Low Momentum Neutron Catalyzed Nuclear Reactions on Metallic Hydride Surfaces A. Widom, L. Larsen Lattice Energy LLC, 175 North Harbor Drive, Chicago IL 60601 ABS

Re: 1997 - 2005 the missing SMOT years

2005-05-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mike Carrell wrote: But people should at least be cognizant of the fact that they > are making extraordinary claims! And they should expect disbelief, and be > ready to deal with it. They should offer rock solid evidence even if it is > not extraordinary. > > Ditto claims by Mills and Correa. As fa

Re: 1997 - 2005 the missing SMOT years

2005-05-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: I classify both cold fusion and the Mills claims as "anomalous" energy. "Anomalous" is not synonymous with "unbelievable" -- it just means there is no explanation. Mills, unlike CF, does not have a textbook physics explanation. That is contradictory. Obviously I meant that "anomalous" i

Re: Robert Carroll

2005-05-04 Thread RC Macaulay
From reading Carroll it is apparent he had a humor to temper his intellect. As time goes by I am coming to realize that CF will emerge just as I am considering the major movement will occur as the result of new mathematics rather than physics alone. Carroll relied upon his math wisdom and skills

Re: Long Delayed Echoes

2005-05-04 Thread Terry Blanton
Good point. It would have to be a point source. Even a dipole has directionality. Harry Veeder wrote: What form would a non-directional antenna have? Harry Terry Blanton wrote: From: Robin van Spaandonk No, the question was, "doesn't anyone listen at radar frequencies, without a dire

RE: I have started uploading ICCF-11 papers

2005-05-04 Thread Keith Nagel
Hey Frank. You write: >I couldn't agree more. One has to turn water > into wine...if one wants to be believed. 8-) OK Frank, you know I can't resist a good challenge *grin* http://www.blacktable.com/gillin030901.htm ...but I'll need some ketchup too. K.

Re: ICCF-11 papers are depressing

2005-05-04 Thread Steven Krivit
Wow Ed I don't think I've ever heard such optimism from you. It is certainly welcome! s At 09:42 AM 5/3/2005 -0600, you wrote: Quite the opposite, Jed. The field is moving forward on several fronts. The field has now changed in two important ways. People who have had some success are

Re: 1997 - 2005 the missing SMOT years

2005-05-04 Thread Mike Carrell
Jed wrote: > Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > > >>Of course, if it really is a perpetual motion machine, then this'll be > >>the biggest thing since Relativity, > > > >It'll be the biggest thing since Principia Mathematica. It's much bigger > >than relativity. > > > >PM of the first kind using stati

Re: Finsrud device

2005-05-04 Thread Mike Carrell
Jed wrote: > Mike Carrell wrote: > > >The testatika machine has been supplying power to the Methernitha colony > >for years also; many have seen it a documented it and it is conveniently > >ignored... > > All the documentation of this device that I have seen proves absolutely > nothing. It consis

Re: I have started uploading ICCF-11 papers

2005-05-04 Thread Grimer
At 12:47 pm 04-05-05 -0700, Jones wrote: > >Even if he is correct, mixing science with religion will get you >only a larger measure of suspicion and ridicule from the people >who matter in the physics establishment, and in a field which does >not need any added layers of disbelief, it is unwise

Re: How would you calculate KE

2005-05-04 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Please stop cross-posting to Vortex and other groups. Prometheus Effect wrote: >Guys, > >How would you calculate the final KE of a vertically >falling ball assuming you know the mass of the ball, g >and you could accurately measure the transit time of >the last say 25mm of the vertical drop? > >The

Re: I have started uploading ICCF-11 papers

2005-05-04 Thread Jones Beene
- Original Message - From: "Jed Rothwell" This one would be nice if true: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MoonDthenucleov.pdf Indeed, it is interesting, even if Moon fits into a "certain" mold... but at least I hope that someone with experimental skills is trying out the possible variati

Re: 1997 - 2005 the missing SMOT years

2005-05-04 Thread Grimer
At 02:47 pm 04-05-05 -0400, you wrote: > > >Public wrote: > >>> Have you seen this?: >>> >>> http://www.reidarfinsrud.no/sider/mobile/foto.html >> >> >> Wow. Notice that the magnets are moving at 90d angles from the motion >> of the ball in each cycle, in the movie clip. Reminds me of the SMOT. >>

Re: Finsrud device

2005-05-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mike Carrell wrote: The testatika machine has been supplying power to the Methernitha colony for years also; many have seen it a documented it and it is conveniently ignored... All the documentation of this device that I have seen proves absolutely nothing. It consists of hearsay, blurry photogr

Re: 1997 - 2005 the missing SMOT years

2005-05-04 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Prometheus Effect wrote: 4) My inability to deliver a device which could deliver ***significant*** energy (emphasis added) Don't you get it? You only need to deliver POSITIVE energy, any amount greater than zero. It does not need to be "significant". If it's > 0 then you've produced somethin

Re: 1997 - 2005 the missing SMOT years

2005-05-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Of course, if it really is a perpetual motion machine, then this'll be the biggest thing since Relativity, It'll be the biggest thing since Principia Mathematica. It's much bigger than relativity. PM of the first kind using static magnets goes down to the bedrock of a

Finsrud device

2005-05-04 Thread Mike Carrell
This is actually not new; the ball has been happily rolling around for years, to my knowledge. It is on display in a public museum. The testatika machine has been supplying power to the Methernitha colony for years also; many have seen it a documented it and it is conveniently ignored, like the el

RE: Robert Carroll

2005-05-04 Thread Grimer
I have started reading Carroll's stuff. He is certainly a man after my own heart if the following gem is anything to go by. -- If the reader detects a note of sarcasm in the above statement, it is only because it was meant

Re: 1997 - 2005 the missing SMOT years

2005-05-04 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Public wrote: Have you seen this?: http://www.reidarfinsrud.no/sider/mobile/foto.html Wow. Notice that the magnets are moving at 90d angles from the motion of the ball in each cycle, in the movie clip. Reminds me of the SMOT. Of course, if it really is a perpetual motion machine, then this'll b

I have started uploading ICCF-11 papers

2005-05-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
I have begun uploading the ICCF-11 papers, including ones that do not require editing and ones that I cannot edit (because they are already in Acrobat format). See: http://lenr-canr.org/FilesByDate.htm This one would be nice if true: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MoonDthenucleov.pdf These two pap

Re: Long Delayed Echoes

2005-05-04 Thread Harry Veeder
What form would a non-directional antenna have? Harry Terry Blanton wrote: > >> >> From: Robin van Spaandonk > >> No, the question was, "doesn't anyone listen at radar frequencies, >> without a directional antenna?" > > None that I know. >

Re: Re: Long Delayed Echoes

2005-05-04 Thread Terry Blanton
> > From: Robin van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > No, the question was, "doesn't anyone listen at radar frequencies, > without a directional antenna?" None that I know.

RE: Arie DeGeus

2005-05-04 Thread Grimer
At 04:37 pm 03-05-05 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Keith, > >We are familiar with his earlier patents. We did not visit the lab where >the fractional hydrogen work is done, but we did see some reasonably >impressive video. > >Since Shell had expressed interest in that aspect, our focus was on his >magn