Re: [Vo]:Black Holes from Newtonian Gravity? - discs.gif

2008-10-13 Thread Michel Jullian
The BH being a relatively small object, and there being near-continuous collisions in the accretion disk, it seems to me that matter from the disk attracted to the BH and missing it can make their closest approach from basically all directions (in 3D, not just 2D), and therefore get

[Vo]:The Perepetia Generator

2008-10-13 Thread Mark Iverson
I haven't seen any mention of Thane Heins' Perepetia Generator yet, which really surprises me... Too much watchin' the ladies at the Dime Box Saloon and not payin attention to the fun stuff? HYPERLINK

Re: [Vo]:Black Holes from Newtonian Gravity? - discs.gif

2008-10-13 Thread Michel Jullian
Agreed. I think the misunderstanding arises from Robin talking about the field _inside_ the disk, and the two of us talking about the field _near_ the disk, i.e. that felt by matter ejected out of the disk thickness. Michel 2008/10/13 Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The field near a line

Re: [Vo]:Black Holes from Newtonian Gravity? - discs.gif

2008-10-13 Thread Horace Heffner
On Oct 13, 2008, at 2:02 AM, Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Mon, 13 Oct 2008 01:31:05 -0800: Hi, [snip] But it is so for a very thin disc, therefore a very thin disc can not exist in the vicinity of the black hole. A thin disc's field is not a 1/r^2

Re: [Vo]:Black Holes from Newtonian Gravity? - discs.gif

2008-10-13 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Michel Jullian's message of Mon, 13 Oct 2008 08:35:02 +0200: Hi, [snip] The BH being a relatively small object, and there being near-continuous collisions in the accretion disk, it seems to me that matter from the disk attracted to the BH and missing it can make their closest approach

Re: [Vo]:The Perepetia Generator

2008-10-13 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Mark Iverson wrote: I haven't seen any mention of Thane Heins' Perepetia Generator yet, which really surprises me... Too much watchin' the ladies at the Dime Box Saloon and not payin attention to the fun stuff? http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4047.3280

Re: [Vo]:Black Holes from Newtonian Gravity? - discs.gif

2008-10-13 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Mon, 13 Oct 2008 01:31:05 -0800: Hi, [snip] But it is so for a very thin disc, therefore a very thin disc can not exist in the vicinity of the black hole. A thin disc's field is not a 1/r^2 field, nor even a 1/r field, but rather a uniform field

[Vo]:Mallove murder suspect may be released soon

2008-10-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: http://www.theday.com/re.aspx?re=1a320f13-2302-4605-bf74-a00de54dadac 'Enough,' Says Murder Suspect By Izaskun E. Larrañeta Online Reporter Gary McAvoy stood Thursday before New London Superior Court Judge Susan Handy and declared his innocence in the 2004 murder of physicist Eugene

Re: [Vo]:The Perepetia Generator

2008-10-13 Thread Jones Beene
Has Lindemann changed his mind? He is not normally a strong skeptic of anything with even the slightest potential for gainfullness, even if it is not there yet -- yet, his and other well-considered - but totally negative comments - are on this page:

Re: [Vo]:Black Holes from Newtonian Gravity? - discs.gif

2008-10-13 Thread Horace Heffner
On Oct 12, 2008, at 7:11 PM, Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Sun, 12 Oct 2008 15:19:12 -0800: Hi, [snip] My initial point was that Michel's explanation of jet formation was unlikely to be correct IMO, because there is little or no matter ejected at an

Re: [Vo]:The Perepetia Generator

2008-10-13 Thread Terry Blanton
We pay attention: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg24356.html I skimmed the thread and didn't see anything exciting except the image regarding why beer stays colder at the bottom of the refrigerator. Terry On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 3:43 AM, Mark Iverson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: