Re: [Vo]:another better battery.

2009-05-19 Thread Chris Zell
Thank you for this update.   I firmly believe that the world is facing a depression in 2 - 5 years unless someone comes up with a dramatic technological catalyst for growth.  A Really Good Battery would do that and more.  I also think that it is the answer to concerns about nukes in Iran and a w

Re: [Vo]:another better battery.

2009-05-19 Thread Michel Jullian
The Nature Materials abstract is here (full text is subscription only): http://www.nature.com/nmat/journal/vaop/ncurrent/abs/nmat2460.html <> The Li-S battery voltage being 2.0V, this would amount to 1320*2.0 = 2640 mWh/g = 2640 Wh/kg, which is HUGE, the current best specific energy density for

[Vo]:Air Bettery

2009-05-19 Thread Terry Blanton
Looks like a lot of on-going research on storage technology: http://www.physorg.com/news161862319.html A new type of air-fuelled battery could give up to ten times the energy storage of designs currently available. This step-change in capacity could pave the way for a new generation of electric

Re: [Vo]:another better battery.

2009-05-19 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Chris Zell mounted the barricade and roared out: > Thank you for this update. > > I firmly believe that the world is facing a depression in 2 - 5 years unless > someone comes up with a dramatic technological catalyst for growth

Re: [Vo]:Air Bettery

2009-05-19 Thread Harry Veeder
next: air breathing robots Harry - Original Message - From: Terry Blanton Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 1:12 pm Subject: [Vo]:Air Bettery > Looks like a lot of on-going research on storage technology: > > http://www.physorg.com/news161862319.html > > A new type of air-fuelled battery co

[Vo]:China vs US

2009-05-19 Thread Edmund Storms
As much as I hate to agree with Grok's basic attitude toward capitalism, I would like to suggest that several decisions, based in the rules of capitalism, will eventually lead to the total destruction of this approach, at least in the form practiced by the US. The evidence can be most cle

Re: [Vo]:China vs US

2009-05-19 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Edmund Storms mounted the barricade and roared out: > As much as I hate to agree with Grok's basic attitude toward capitalism, hehehe. Like I care. But continue. > I would like to suggest that several decisions, based in

Re: [Vo]:China vs US

2009-05-19 Thread OrionWorks
>From Ed Storms: > As much as I hate to agree with Grok's basic attitude toward capitalism,  I > would like to suggest that several decisions,  based in the rules of > capitalism, will eventually lead to the total destruction of this approach, > at least in the form practiced by the US. > > The ev

Re: [Vo]:China vs US

2009-05-19 Thread Mauro Lacy
Hi grok, Your Marxist concept of "class" and "class struggle", which as a good Marxist you cannot abandon, despite all its historical failures and ominous consequences, is mainly what ruins your whole picture. It's also the main culprit of the disastrous historical consequences of Marxism. The con

Re: [Vo]:another better battery.

2009-05-19 Thread mixent
In reply to Michel Jullian's message of Tue, 19 May 2009 15:31:41 +0200: Hi, [snip] >The Nature Materials abstract is here (full text is subscription only): > >http://www.nature.com/nmat/journal/vaop/ncurrent/abs/nmat2460.html > ><> > >The Li-S battery voltage being 2.0V, this would amount to 1320

Re: [Vo]:Air Bettery

2009-05-19 Thread mixent
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Tue, 19 May 2009 13:12:53 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Looks like a lot of on-going research on storage technology: > >http://www.physorg.com/news161862319.html If I am not mistaken, this is based upon the same porous carbon, but with the Sulphur replaced by Oxygen fr

Re: [Vo]:China vs US

2009-05-19 Thread Mauro Lacy
fought Mauro Lacy wrote:

Re: [Vo]:China vs US

2009-05-19 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Mauro Lacy mounted the barricade and roared out: > Hi grok, > Your Marxist concept of "class" and "class struggle", which as a good > Marxist you cannot abandon, despite all its historical failures and > ominous consequences,

Re: [Vo]:Air Bettery

2009-05-19 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, mix...@bigpond.com mounted the barricade and roared out: > In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Tue, 19 May 2009 13:12:53 -0400: > Hi, > [snip] > >Looks like a lot of on-going research on storage technology: > > > >http://ww

[Vo]:OT: Manhunt in progress in Madison

2009-05-19 Thread OrionWorks
There is a full-scale manhunt going on right now for a murder suspect last spotted in the near west side neighborhood of Madison. The suspect was last spotted in the Hoyt Park area earlier Tuesday morning. It's a location which includes Quarry Park. Our house is nearby. For details: http://www.mad

Re: [Vo]:OT: Manhunt in progress in Madison

2009-05-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
That's awful! I hope you are okay. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:China vs US

2009-05-19 Thread Mauro Lacy
grok wrote: > > As the smoke cleared, Mauro Lacy > mounted the barricade and roared out: > > > Hi grok, > > Your Marxist concept of "class" and "class struggle", which as a good > > Marxist you cannot abandon, despite all its historical failures and > > ominous consequences, is mainly what ruins

Re: [Vo]:China vs US

2009-05-19 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Mauro Lacy mounted the barricade and roared out: > If a significant part of that "working class" could, they will act and > behave similarly to their burgueois "enemies". And you completely fail > to see this. You completely fa

Re: [Vo]:China vs US

2009-05-19 Thread Mauro Lacy
grok wrote: > So... what's up with that Mylow character anyway..?? > I'm SO disappointed... Oh, C'mon. It was completely OBVIOUS to me, from the very beginning, that all that Mylow story was a complete fabrication. Just go now, and read in restrospective a few lines of the first posts and links, a

Re: [Vo]:China vs US

2009-05-19 Thread Mauro Lacy
grok wrote: > > As the smoke cleared, Mauro Lacy > mounted the barricade and roared out: > > > If a significant part of that "working class" could, they will act and > > behave similarly to their burgueois "enemies". And you completely fail > > to see this. You completely fail to see (as Marxism d

Re: [Vo]:OT: Manhunt in progress in Madison

2009-05-19 Thread OrionWorks
>From Jed > That's awful! I hope you are okay. > > - Jed As of 8:11 PM I watched the police pack up their barricade material and leave. Local traffic is back to normal. Apparently, the threat level has been reduced in our immediate neighborhood. Also, as far as I can tell there are no arrest warr

Re: [Vo]:OT: Manhunt in progress in Madison

2009-05-19 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, OrionWorks mounted the barricade and roared out: > > That's awful! I hope you are okay. > > > > - Jed > > As of 8:11 PM I watched the police pack up their barricade material > and leave. Local traffic is back to normal. Appare

Re: [Vo]:China vs US

2009-05-19 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Mauro Lacy mounted the barricade and roared out: > grok wrote: > > So... what's up with that Mylow character anyway..?? > > I'm SO disappointed... > > Oh, C'mon. It was completely OBVIOUS to me, from the very beginning, > that

Re: [Vo]:OT: Manhunt in progress in Madison

2009-05-19 Thread OrionWorks
>From Grok: > And you don't all the other nights..??? > FORGODSSAKESMANLOCKALLTHEDOORSANDWINDOWSQUICKQUICKITELLYOU > AA! > ;P > > A small touch of over-reaction, eh? However, that is _exactly_ > the intended outcome of such over-the-top over-reactions as > these from the State and

Re: [Vo]:OT: Manhunt in progress in Madison

2009-05-19 Thread Kyle Mcallister
Steven, I hope everything goes well, and safely, for you and yours. I've dealt with similar things before, albeit with a machine in my hands that would be far more effective than any modern donut-monster. Thankfully, I never had to use it. One thing I am not entirely clear on, why did the cop no

Re: [Vo]:China vs US

2009-05-19 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Mauro Lacy mounted the barricade and roared out: > > NOTHING is more ugly and violent than a capitalist which hasn't been fed > > bloodmeal and raw, dripping hamburger in the past few minutes. > > I'm not discussing here "who

RE: [Vo]:OT: Manhunt in progress in Madison

2009-05-19 Thread Lawrence de Bivort
Stay safe. Might think about keeping a cell phone and whistle handy. Flashlight, too. We'll be thinking about you and your family. Lawrence -Original Message- From: OrionWorks [mailto:svj.orionwo...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 7:58 PM To: vortex-l Subject: [Vo]:OT: Manhunt in

Re: [Vo]:OT: Manhunt in progress in Madison

2009-05-19 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, OrionWorks mounted the barricade and roared out: > Despite my earlier act-of-defiance of sneaking back into my house from the > opposite > direction I was all too happy to see the police hanging about the > neighborhood. I >

Re: [Vo]:OT: Manhunt in progress in Madison

2009-05-19 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Kyle Mcallister mounted the barricade and roared out: > His son can join him; using his mayoral powers, and pleading against 'racial > profiling,' Mayor Brown managed to get the troubled lad off damn-near > scot-free of > gran

Re: [Vo]:OT: Manhunt in progress in Madison

2009-05-19 Thread Steven Krivit
about the neighborhood. I have little interest in whatever ideology that could be constructed out of this scenario to fit the drama at hand, A little to full of themselves, I think. "Nobody moves, nobody gets hurt." "The PD is here...we can protect everyone (including your wife) by sitting i

RE: [Vo]:OT: Manhunt in progress in Madison

2009-05-19 Thread Steven Krivit
Steven, When I was in business school we studied the matter of a top-down management which precludes localized thinking. That is, there are some corporations, and governments that issue orders, directives, instructions to their staff (drones?) and they do not empower or encourage them to think

Re: [Vo]:OT: Manhunt in progress in Madison

2009-05-19 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Steven Krivit mounted the barricade and roared out: > Steven, > > When I was in business school we studied the matter of a top-down > management which precludes localized thinking. That is, there are some > corporations, an

Re: [Vo]:China vs US Neodymium & Ultraconducting permanent magnets

2009-05-19 Thread Mark Goldes
One of the possible uses of Ultraconductors(tm) in wire form, which is likely in the next year or two, it to construct ambient temperature polymer permanent magnets. Unlike conventional superconductors, which have electron pairs with opposite spins, Ultraconductors have parallel spins, analogo