RE: [Vo]:Inventors and Uberman/polyphasic sleep

2009-05-31 Thread Mark Iverson
Perhaps so, but it doesn't even compare to some of the comments he has made towards the members of this group... Nothing of his rantings indicate that he even has any sense of that either. At least I do... -Mark -Original Message- From: leaking pen [mailto:itsat...@gmail.com] Sent: S

[Vo]:U.Missouri Videos

2009-05-31 Thread Steven Krivit
Hey Vorts, I got most (not all) the UM seminar on video. I'm sure UM will put it up on their site too, but I thought I'd do some redundancy. You know how these things go, right? I'm uploading 6 clips right now. By Monday morning if you to go my channel on YouTube you should find them. S

RE: [Vo]:Need big list of legit heretical research

2009-05-31 Thread Lawrence de Bivort
There used to be US gov't funding some years ago, but it was discontinued. The fact that it received such funding is being used to bolster current claims to credibility. -Original Message- From: leaking pen [mailto:itsat...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 1:02 AM To: vortex-l@esk

Re: [Vo]:Need big list of legit heretical research

2009-05-31 Thread leaking pen
Remote Viewing Secrets: A Handbook (Paperback) by Joseph McMoneagle assuming that there is no gov funding currently. I could be wrong. On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 7:57 PM, William Beaty wrote: > > Gerald Pollack, a sucessful maverick biochemist at the UW, is trying to > collect a list of books whic

Re: [Vo]:Inventors and Uberman/polyphasic sleep

2009-05-31 Thread leaking pen
That was unfair, mean spirited, and does not belong in this conversation. Alex 2009/5/31 Mark Iverson : > "I wonder what type of sleep schedule our primitive ancestors had." > > Ask grok... > > -Mark > > > -Original Message- > From: leaking pen [mailto:itsat...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, M

RE: [Vo]:Inventors and Uberman/polyphasic sleep

2009-05-31 Thread Mark Iverson
"I wonder what type of sleep schedule our primitive ancestors had." Ask grok... -Mark -Original Message- From: leaking pen [mailto:itsat...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 7:11 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Inventors and Uberman/polyphasic sleep That makes sense.

Re: [Vo]:Inventors and Uberman/polyphasic sleep

2009-05-31 Thread William Beaty
On Sun, 31 May 2009, leaking pen wrote: > I wonder what type of sleep schedule our primitive ancestors had. While in accelerated mode I wondered about this, and "saw" the answer in some detail. Are fever-dreams trustworthy? In "town" mode everybody crawls into their wigwams and sleeps at night,

[Vo]:Need big list of legit heretical research

2009-05-31 Thread William Beaty
Gerald Pollack, a sucessful maverick biochemist at the UW, is trying to collect a list of books which describe crazy fringe research projects and proposals not currently attracting any government funding. My own list is below. Any more suggestions? Book suggestions, NOT research proposals. Also

Re: Great biological mystery force Re: [Vo]:GATC and ESP

2009-05-31 Thread Harry Veeder
Maybe they have the protein equivalent of bird songs? Harry - Original Message - From: Rhong Dhong Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009 6:26 pm Subject: Re: Great biological mystery force Re: [Vo]:GATC and ESP > > --- On Sun, 5/31/09, William Beaty wrote: > > > > > Good one!  Floating protei

RE: [Vo]:Inventors and Uberman/polyphasic sleep

2009-05-31 Thread Lawrence de Bivort
Solo sailors at sea, and especially in shipping lanes, learn to wake up every 20 minutes or so to take a look around the horizon. We do this whether we are sleeping during the night or day. It creates a sustainable rhythm without, it seems, impairing sailing adeptness, personal energy or boat per

Re: [Vo]:H. G. Wells describes our predicament in 1913

2009-05-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: Brilliant sage that he was, he did not quite get the nuclear bomb right . . > . > This > liberated fresh inducive, and so in a few minutes the whole bomb was a > blazing continual explosion." > > It was more like a giant fire than an explosion. Except that it went on for

Re: [Vo]:Inventors and Uberman/polyphasic sleep

2009-05-31 Thread leaking pen
That makes sense. Actually, hunh. like cats and most other hunting animals. I wonder what type of sleep schedule our primitive ancestors had. On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 6:07 PM, William Beaty wrote: > On Sun, 31 May 2009, leaking pen wrote: > >> on the uberman sleep schedule... im confused... > >

Re: [Vo]:Inventors and Uberman/polyphasic sleep

2009-05-31 Thread leaking pen
I have a saying that a lot of friends have made an axiom, actually. First said it when i was 12. I think you have to be insane, to not be insane. See, being a LITTLE insane is good, as anyone who is COMPLETELY sane in this world will soon be driven COMPLETELY INsane. On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 6:30

Re: [Vo]:Inventors and Uberman/polyphasic sleep

2009-05-31 Thread Terry Blanton
When I do this, I find the REM extremely bizarre. It also takes me a good 10 minutes to come "out of it". I must admit, however, that I find my creativity enhanced with the half hour REMs during the hourly cat naps. Maybe it's the frequent insanity which avoids permanent insanity. :-) Terry O

Re: [Vo]:Inventors and Uberman/polyphasic sleep

2009-05-31 Thread William Beaty
On Sun, 31 May 2009, leaking pen wrote: > on the uberman sleep schedule... im confused... Different groups seem to worship different schedules. As for me, I found that I'd be happily working away, when suddenly I'd "hit a wall." I'd have to crawl off to collapse somewhere for a few minutes REM

Re: [Vo]:Inventors and Uberman/polyphasic sleep

2009-05-31 Thread leaking pen
on the uberman sleep schedule... im confused... After moving a couple years ago, i had a LOT of laundry to do. to get through it all, i spent 3 days setting my alarm clock at roughly hour intervals. get up with the alarm, change dryer and washer loads, fold clothes, back to sleep for an hour. I

Re: Great biological mystery force Re: [Vo]:GATC and ESP

2009-05-31 Thread leaking pen
http://tinyurl.com/mqpszt has some info on london forces and their effect on boiling temp. heres some thougts on similar materials and weights and mp and bp. http://cost.georgiasouthern.edu/chemistry/general/molecule/forces.htm On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 4:05 PM, William Beaty wrote: > On Sun

Re: Great biological mystery force Re: [Vo]:GATC and ESP

2009-05-31 Thread William Beaty
On Sun, 31 May 2009, leaking pen wrote: > > If I try to boil down all the weird ideas that popped into my head, then > > here's the real question: do atoms experience significant Vanderwaals > > forces with nearby atoms of the same species, but not with atoms of > > different species? (Nearby, a

Re: Great biological mystery force Re: [Vo]:GATC and ESP

2009-05-31 Thread William Beaty
On Sun, 31 May 2009, Rhong Dhong wrote: > I have had the pop-science idea that the reason the proteins, and other > bits and pieces, found their mates, and found them so quickly, was that > at their scales, just randomly moving around meant that they were > destined to come near one another in a v

[Vo]:Inventors and Uberman/polyphasic sleep

2009-05-31 Thread William Beaty
> > People in the "uberman/polyphasic sleep" community think it's a learnable > > behavior. Perhaps it helps to start out with unusual brain chemistry! > > > Really? I should look them up. Search for blogs, uberman or polyphasic keyword. Various people have managed to trigger the Uberman slee

Re: Great biological mystery force Re: [Vo]:GATC and ESP

2009-05-31 Thread Rhong Dhong
--- On Sun, 5/31/09, William Beaty wrote: > > Good one!  Floating proteins come wiggling in from > afar and find their I have had the pop-science idea that the reason the proteins, and other bits and pieces, found their mates, and found them so quickly, was that at their scales, just randoml

Re: Great biological mystery force Re: [Vo]:GATC and ESP

2009-05-31 Thread William Beaty
On Sun, 31 May 2009, Terry Blanton wrote: > I love the tuned circuit theory. > > This DNA video is very fascinating: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jtmOZaIvS0&feature=related Good one! Floating proteins come wiggling in from afar and find their docking site. Now I recall I first encountere

Re: [Vo]:H. G. Wells describes our predicament in 1913

2009-05-31 Thread Harry Veeder
so you anticipate a nuclear war in the middle of the 21st century thanks to cold fusion? harry - Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009 12:00 pm Subject: [Vo]:H. G. Wells describes our predicament in 1913 > H. G. Wells described the situation with cold fusion in

Re: [Vo]:Zitter and ZPE

2009-05-31 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Horace Heffner mounted the barricade and roared out: > It seems to me also true the probability of mating itself may change due > to mutations, and this is a form of of natural selection. The gradual > development of an appe

Re: Great biological mystery force Re: [Vo]:GATC and ESP

2009-05-31 Thread Terry Blanton
I love the tuned circuit theory. This DNA video is very fascinating: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jtmOZaIvS0&feature=related This textillian version shows the nucleotides swarming into place: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dveIc7svytI With all these radio signals in the cell, I wonder what

Re: [Vo]:H. G. Wells describes our predicament in 1913

2009-05-31 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Jed Rothwell mounted the barricade and roared out: > ". . . Everywhere there were obsolete organisations seizing upon all the new > fine things that science was giving to the world, nationalities, all sorts > of political bodie

Re: Great biological mystery force Re: [Vo]:GATC and ESP

2009-05-31 Thread leaking pen
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 8:44 AM, thomas malloy wrote: > leaking pen wrote: > > Something to remember. electrons don't actually orbit the nucleus. > they bounce around randomly, perhaps actually appearing and > dissapearing, or, tunneling, within vague cloud like areas known as > orbitals (because

Re: Great biological mystery force Re: [Vo]:GATC and ESP

2009-05-31 Thread leaking pen
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 2:10 AM, William Beaty wrote: > On Sat, 30 May 2009, leaking pen wrote: > > > People in the "uberman/polyphasic sleep" community think it's a learnable > behavior. Perhaps it helps to start out with unusual brain chemistry! > But at least in my own case, my creative insan

Re: [Vo]:Jack Sarfatti' paper on the ZPE

2009-05-31 Thread Terry Blanton
Jack don't get along wit' nobody. 'Cept maybe Uri Geller. Terry On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 11:30 AM, thomas malloy wrote: > Someone mentioned the Sarfatti name, and I Goggled Jack. The paper goes > along like a standard scientific treatise and then suddenly he throws in > some totally off the wall

Re: [Vo]:H. G. Wells describes our predicament in 1913

2009-05-31 Thread Terry Blanton
Brilliant sage that he was, he did not quite get the nuclear bomb right: "Those used by the Allies were lumps of pure Carolinum, painted on the outside with unoxidised cydonator inducive enclosed hermetically in a case of membranium. A little celluloid stud between the handles by which the bomb wa

[Vo]:Jack Sarfatti' paper on the ZPE

2009-05-31 Thread thomas malloy
Someone mentioned the Sarfatti name, and I Goggled Jack. The paper goes along like a standard scientific treatise and then suddenly he throws in some totally off the wall gibberish about UFO's traveling through worm holes. I've heard that Jack and Hal Puthoff don't get along. He criticized Hal,

[Vo]:H. G. Wells describes our predicament in 1913

2009-05-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
H. G. Wells described the situation with cold fusion in his 1913 S.F. novel "The World Set Free" which is about nuclear energy. A character describes the world as it was before the coming of ultra-cheap, plentiful nuclear energy and a nuclear war: ". . . Everywhere there were obsolete organisation

Re: Great biological mystery force Re: [Vo]:GATC and ESP

2009-05-31 Thread thomas malloy
leaking pen wrote: Something to remember. electrons don't actually orbit the nucleus. they bounce around randomly, perhaps actually appearing and dissapearing, or, tunneling, within vague cloud like areas known as orbitals (because of the old Neils Bohr orbital model of the atom. ) Perhaps the n

Re: [Vo]:magnetic motor

2009-05-31 Thread OrionWorks
>From Thomas: > I have previously heard of this Australian inventor claims that his > motor produces 24 KW. Has anybody heard anything about him lately? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efCelx7qe_M&NR=1 It was fun to watch. Nevertheless, the YouTube video seems to follow a same pattern of simil

[Vo]:magnetic motor

2009-05-31 Thread thomas malloy
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Re: Great biological mystery force Re: [Vo]:GATC and ESP

2009-05-31 Thread William Beaty
On Sat, 30 May 2009, leaking pen wrote: > well, that wont put me into sleep dep. I go into rem about 4 minutes > after falling asleep. i actually sleep BETTER in 1 hour cat naps. > (And ive just found, thats a main symptom of narcolepsy. explains a > lot actually) People in the "uberman/polyp