Re: [Vo]:Another problem with electricity in Japan, the AC frequency varies

2011-03-30 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 30 Mar 2011 22:09:21 -0400: Hi, [snip] It wouldn't surprise me to find a crystal, but it wouldn't be an expensive one or temperature controlled. IOW over a period of months it would wander. The grid is more accurate, and plug in electric clocks will trac

Re: [Vo]:Physics Forums discussion of Rossi with comments by Brian Josephson

2011-03-30 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message > From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com > Sent: Wed, March 30, 2011 9:15:53 PM > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Physics Forums discussion of Rossi with comments by Brian >Josephson > > At 12:50 PM 3/30/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > A well-kno

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion may be delayed, but I predict they will succeed in the end

2011-03-30 Thread francis
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 18:58:45 Robin wrote [snip]AFAIK Mills has a 50 kW prototype, but it's a "one shot" (i.e. a single heat burst) after which the catalyst has to be replaced. Rossi's genius may be that he has figured out how to regenerate the catalyst "in situ" by regulating the temperature local

Re: [Vo]:Physics Forums discussion of Rossi with comments by Brian Josephson

2011-03-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > Discussion of Rossi is pretty useless at this time, my opinion. It's just > going to bring up all the same old same old, and we, as those who accept the > reality of cold fusion, have *nothing to show* for Rossi. Says who? Why do you doubt the independent investiga

[Vo]:Defkalion may be delayed, but I predict they will succeed in the end

2011-03-30 Thread francis
Jed, I think attention and money will avalanche once they parallel up a half dozen units in the lab - even throttled back and only loosely coupled will make prime time news once there is a factory with an assembly line to film. There are lots of people already watching but they are

Re: [Vo]:Another problem with electricity in Japan, the AC frequency varies

2011-03-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
wrote: > ... try alarm clocks. > Try looking inside one. You will find a crystal timer. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Hippies don't like E-Cat because of "radioactivity"

2011-03-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
wrote: > Even if the nuclear process(es) actually involved in Rossi's device turn > out not to be completely clean, they are at least thousands (if not > millions) of times cleaner than normal fission reactors. Heck yes. For that matter, they will release much less radioactive garbage than coa

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion may be delayed, but I predict they will succeed in the end

2011-03-30 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:08:36 -0400: Hi, [snip] >That does not mean they cannot catch >up. Who knows what Mills has . . . but if he has no 15 kW prototype, he's >back in the pack with Energetics Technology and the ENEA and the others. AFAIK Mills has a 50 kW prot

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion may be delayed, but I predict they will succeed in the end

2011-03-30 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:08:36 -0400: Hi, [snip] >I think he mentioned that the person who makes the >nickel catalyst for him is elderly, in his 80s or 90s. If that person >becomes incapacitated or dies, the project may be delayed. If I were in Rossi's shoes, I wo

Re: [Vo]:Another problem with electricity in Japan, the AC frequency varies

2011-03-30 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 30 Mar 2011 17:28:22 -0400: Hi, [snip] >mix...@bigpond.com wrote: > >> I wasn't talking about clocks with synchronous motors, but rather electronic >> clocks that use the line frequency directly&/or for synchronization, and I >> think there are still quit

[Vo]:Defkalion may be delayed, but I predict they will succeed in the end

2011-03-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Someone asked me whether I think Defkalion will succeed in shipping Rossi reactors, thereby saving the world. I said yes, I think they will succeed, but it may take longer than they plan. Reasons: 1. The scientific problem is solved; it is "just a matter of engineering." 2. They have a lot of mone

Re: [Vo]:Hippies don't like E-Cat because of "radioactivity"

2011-03-30 Thread Harvey Norris
--- On Tue, 3/29/11, Esa Ruoho wrote: From: Esa Ruoho Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hippies don't like E-Cat because of "radioactivity" To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 3:51 PM Way to hijack. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:41 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: The inside scoop on the heat

Re: [Vo]:Physics Forums discussion of Rossi with comments by Brian Josephson

2011-03-30 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:50 PM 3/30/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: A well-known skeptic shown up in this discussion. See: http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=484427&page=5 Joshua Cude is a joke. Physics Forums shuts down cold fusion threads, I've

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion featured in "Dilbert"

2011-03-30 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:40 AM 3/30/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Not a flattering reference, I am afraid. See the March 30, 2011 comic strip: http://www.dilbert.com/ - Jed Well, it wasn't a bad reference, i.e., it could have been much worse

Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR weekly download data

2011-03-30 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Esa Ruoho wrote: > IANAN I Am Not A Neurologist ? Jed sed: "Numerologists are invited to tweak this data yourself and see if you can spot any emerging patterns." I said: "I Am Not A Numerologist. But, could you send me an .csv or an .xls file (not .xlsx please

RE: [Vo]:Another problem with electricity in Japan, the AC frequency varies

2011-03-30 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
I should add you can use GPS receivers for accurate time, the satellites have cesium clocks on board and probably synch to NIST also. Question: The naval observatory also has a time standard -- why do we need two, and what's the difference? -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell [mailt

RE: [Vo]:Another problem with electricity in Japan, the AC frequency varies

2011-03-30 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
Clocks should either use the grid's AC signal or receive time codes from WWVB or other sources such as cell phone towers or broadcast TV. You can't get any more accurate than that even if you have a crystal --it should at least be counting mains power cycles, as the utilities synch to NIST. I have

Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR weekly download data

2011-03-30 Thread Esa Ruoho
IANAN I Am Not A Neurologist ? On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: > > IANAN.  But, could you send me an .csv or an .xls file (not .xlsx > please).  I wouldn't mind playing with it. >

Re: [Vo]:Physics Forums discussion of Rossi with comments by Brian Josephson

2011-03-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Since he is paying for it, I wouldn't count on the results being made public. I refer to the experiments underway at U. Bologna. Levi et al. said they would publish the results, probably in about a year. I assume he is counting on getting a patent by then. I do no

Re: [Vo]:Another problem with electricity in Japan, the AC frequency varies

2011-03-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
mix...@bigpond.com wrote: I wasn't talking about clocks with synchronous motors, but rather electronic clocks that use the line frequency directly&/or for synchronization, and I think there are still quite a few of those. I know what you mean. I used to have one. I think it burned up one day.

Re: [Vo]:How to Prove that the Rossi/Focardi eCAT LENR is Real

2011-03-30 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Nearly done ... http://lenr.qumbu.com/fake_rossi_ecat_v309.php?todo=1 Apart from final clean-up, I'm wondering whether to present the results in summary form : Thinks: For each "fake material" I present five different experiments --- I could make a summary table ordered by experiment and then me

Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR weekly download data

2011-03-30 Thread Terry Blanton
IANAN. But, could you send me an .csv or an .xls file (not .xlsx please). I wouldn't mind playing with it. T On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I uploaded part of this spreadsheet this morning. Might as well upload the > whole column. > The data from before 2005 is not as r

Re: [Vo]:Another problem with electricity in Japan, the AC frequency varies

2011-03-30 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 30 Mar 2011 14:03:05 -0400: Hi, I wasn't talking about clocks with synchronous motors, but rather electronic clocks that use the line frequency directly &/or for synchronization, and I think there are still quite a few of those. > wrote: > > >> It says

Re: [Vo]:Physics Forums discussion of Rossi with comments by Brian Josephson

2011-03-30 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:47:31 -0400: Hi, [snip] >But Rossi has paid a million euros to have a top-notch >university and national lab test his machine and subject the catalyst to >mass spectroscopy! People have lined up 200 million euros in capital to >manufacture

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion featured in "Dilbert"

2011-03-30 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Dilbert sold it's soul when it licensed it's caricatures to be utilized by corporations to give employees ethical training scenarios. From: Ron Kita [mailto:chiralex.k...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 4:15 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion featured i

Re: [Vo]:Physics Forums discussion of Rossi with comments by Brian Josephson

2011-03-30 Thread Roarty, Francis X
on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 3:48 PM Jed Rothwell wrote [snip] He now has a good patent attorney working on that. [/snip] Any more info on the patent attorney?

[Vo]:LENR-CANR weekly download data

2011-03-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
I uploaded part of this spreadsheet this morning. Might as well upload the whole column. The data from before 2005 is not as reliable. This is data shown in the graphs here: http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm#Downloads Actually, the graph data points use a half-assed method. I gather weekly data into

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion featured in "Dilbert"

2011-03-30 Thread Ron Kita
Ah...Dilbert.a poor batting average with me. Dilbert is Ok..if you work in a cube and think in a cube. Pogo of the old days .more cerebral. If the "Lucy" of the Lucy Van Pelt Psychiatric Clinic aka Charles Schulz Clinic ..woud question the sanity of cold fusion researchers..then

Re: [Vo]:Physics Forums discussion of Rossi with comments by Brian Josephson

2011-03-30 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sez: ... > Really, there isn't much more we can ask for. Well, I was thinking about that. Maybe when Rossi starts marketing the E-Cat in the United States he should trademark and then rename his energy catalyzer "Mr. Fusion" (I bet Mr. Spielberg wouldn't mind sharing his trademark one bit!)

Re: [Vo]:Physics Forums discussion of Rossi with comments by Brian Josephson

2011-03-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: > As soon as the test was reported, Crude . . . > Cude. Sorry about that. A spell check error? Freudian slip? Wasn't voice input -- I can't blame that. On the last page he writes: "Would you like to approach Rossi about getting one of his proprietary reactors to me for testing? I have

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion featured in "Dilbert"

2011-03-30 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:42 AM 3/30/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: At 07:40 AM 3/30/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Not a flattering reference, I am afraid. See the March 30, 2011 comic strip: http://www.dilbert.com/ - Jed I fixed it for him : (changed to jpg) http://lenr.qumbu.com/dilbert_117323.strip.corrected.jpg

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion featured in "Dilbert"

2011-03-30 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 07:40 AM 3/30/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Not a flattering reference, I am afraid. See the March 30, 2011 comic strip: http://www.dilbert.com/ - Jed I fixed it for him : http://lenr.qumbu.com/dilbert_117323.strip.corrected.png

Re: [Vo]:Physics Forums discussion of Rossi with comments by Brian Josephson

2011-03-30 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Jed: > A well-known skeptic shown up in this discussion. See: > > http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=484427&page=5 > He is intellectually dishonest. He described experiment 1 as follows: ... > He also demands an "independent" test. That was an independent test. > Levi had no con

Re: [Vo]:Another problem with electricity in Japan, the AC frequency varies

2011-03-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
wrote: > It says nowadays there is no compelling > >technical reason to unify the power system at one frequency. > > ...except that clocks which work for one part of country won't work in the > rest. > They haven't made electric clocks like that for 30 years! They all have quartz crystal timers

Re: [Vo]:Physics Forums discussion of Rossi with comments by Brian Josephson

2011-03-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
A well-known skeptic shown up in this discussion. See: http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=484427&page=5 He is intellectually dishonest. He described experiment 1 as follows: "Which figures are you questioning? A flow rate of 4.9 g/s water, and a temperature increase of 88 degreesC cor

Re: [Vo]:OT: google trends

2011-03-30 Thread Harry Veeder
coldfusion is the programming language, cold fusion is the heat.  For comparison see http://tinyurl.com/4b3bdzx The trouble is that people who were really interested in coldfusion probably typed in cold fusion instead.   Harry > >From: Jed Rothwell >To: vortex-l@eskimo.com >Sent: Wed, March

Re: [Vo]:Blue plastic tarps deployed to make radiation go away

2011-03-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
The WaPost reported: "Vanishing act by Japanese executive during nuclear crisis raises questions" QUOTES: TOKYO — In normal times, Masataka Shimizu lives in The Tower, a luxury high rise in the same upscale Tokyo district as the U.S. Embassy. He is now hospitalized with stress. The poor fe

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion featured in "Dilbert"

2011-03-30 Thread Esa Ruoho
http://dilbert.com/2011-03-30 <- Dogbert Cold Fusion http://dilbert.com/2011-03-29 <- Dogbert Green philosophy On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > LOL! But what d'ya expect from Dogbert, knowing his 'green' philosophy > > (last of this page): > > http://calvy.wordpress.com/2011

RE: [Vo]:Cold fusion featured in "Dilbert"

2011-03-30 Thread Jones Beene
LOL! But what d'ya expect from Dogbert, knowing his 'green' philosophy (last of this page): http://calvy.wordpress.com/2011/02/18/the-top-20-dilbert-strips-featuring-do gbert/ "you can't save the earth unless you're willing to make other people sacrifice" -Original Message- From: Jed

[Vo]:Cold fusion featured in "Dilbert"

2011-03-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Not a flattering reference, I am afraid. See the March 30, 2011 comic strip: http://www.dilbert.com/ - Jed

[Vo]:A message from the Ministry of Truth

2011-03-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Brian Josephson sent me a link to this audio interview on the BBC with Sir David King, who explains why it is irrational to worry about radiation from the Fukushima nuclear plant, just keep walking folks nothing to see here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_9439000/9439385.stm Comments

Re: [Vo]:OT: google trends

2011-03-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
The search term here was: cold fusion, lenr That probably includes some number of appearances for the programming language "Cold Fusion" which is declining in popularity. It seems you cannot exclude search terms with Google Trends. For Google Alerts I use the search terms: cold fusion -coldfusi