Re: [Vo]:Designer of 3-D Printable Gun Has His 3-D Printer Seized

2012-10-06 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: No modern society can survive without some measure of redistribution from > wealthy people to middle class and poor people. This necessity is imposed > by our technology, in manufacturing and farming. We will soon need much > more redistributio

Re: [Vo]:A new economic system will be needed in the next 20 to 100 years

2012-10-06 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: We are not capable of anything like the fully automated version in which > all of the necessity of life are handed out for free. That will take 100 > years. Maybe 200 years. > As an interesting side note to the economic discussion, there is the

[Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication)

2012-10-06 Thread Akira Shirakawa
Hello group, This is via E-Cat World. Check it out: http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/10/progress-from-the-martin-fleischmann-memorial-project/ I chatted today with Bob Greenyer, one of the members of the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project, an organization whose goal is to provide irrefutable e

Re: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication)

2012-10-06 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-10-06 10:04, Akira Shirakawa wrote: They have a progress blog with lots of high quality photos, data and information: http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/replicate/progress-blog A presentation related with their efforts on replicating Celani's cell: https://docs.google.com/presentatio

Re: [Vo]:A new economic system will be needed in the next 20 to 100 years

2012-10-06 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Jed says: ... Capitalism, communism, Feudalism, mercantalism and every other economic system ever invented can be defined as: A system to allocate human labor, goods and services. Some of these systems have been efficient; others were inefficient. Some were just; others were unjust, and still

Re: [Vo]:A new economic system will be needed in the next 20 to 100 years

2012-10-06 Thread Nigel Dyer
Is ancient China included as being part of the west? A quick check of some basic history of ancient china seems to suggest that what I would consider to be the organisation of human labor was present going right back to the very earliest dynasties. However, I would tend to think that so many

Re: [Vo]: Experimental Results with Nickel and Sodium Carbonate

2012-10-06 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 01:37 AM 10/6/2012, Eric Walker wrote: On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <a...@lomaxdesign.com> wrote: In an AC situation, there would be alternate production of hydrogen and oxygen at the same electrode. So one would expect a level of recomb

Re: [Vo]:A new economic system will be needed in the next 20 to 100 years

2012-10-06 Thread James Bowery
Ironically, the transition to a post-labor political economy I worked out in a white paper 20 years ago (1992)was motivated by my experience getting legislation drafted and signed into law that privatized government technology programs

Re: [Vo]:Designer of 3-D Printable Gun Has His 3-D Printer Seized

2012-10-06 Thread Harry Veeder
Dictatorial Communism allocated resources through the control of prices and production. Calls for the redistribution income in a free market system is nothing like this. Harry On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Peter Gluck wrote: > The Internet also say so- see for example: > https://www.technolog

Re: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication)

2012-10-06 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 1:04 AM, Akira Shirakawa wrote: This looks very promising. > I agree. They seem capable. Their technological goals appear to be fairly specific and limited. I get the sense that they are proceeding systematically. They have identified an interesting business niche, have

RE: [Vo]:Relativistic magnetic field

2012-10-06 Thread Harvey Norris
Perhaps the best issue to be noted is the spinning electromagnet manifested as a field of a car alternator. No where do I see it mentioned, except in my own research: that there is a correct direction for the DC field currents to be in harmony with the rotation. This only stands to be common se

[Vo]:"Prize Fight"

2012-10-06 Thread Harry Veeder
Prize Fight (audio interview) http://www.cbc.ca/quirks/episode/2012/10/06/october-6-2012/#5 This coming week, the Nobel Prizes for 2012 will be announced at the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm, Sweden. Achievements will be recognized in scientific fields, including medicine, physics and chemis

Re: [Vo]:Open Source Papp Update

2012-10-06 Thread Axil Axil
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FIrjnrTYofc Russ tries helium in video 12. Cheers:Axil On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > If shockwave production is central to the Papp reaction, it may be > possible to build a Papp generator without the need f

Re: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (Celani replication)

2012-10-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Akira Shirakawa wrote: A recent video of their labs and current progress (HD Quality): > http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=26k3Cz3wW-8 > > Witness HUG making preparations for New Fire replication apparatus. >> > I LOVE this! Look at the people in this

Re: [Vo]:CR39

2012-10-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
CR39 is very hard to use. It is not for dummies or beginners. That's the take home lesson I learned after listening to 2 days of discussion on CR32 by experts. There is a reason people invented electronic particle detectors and stopped using the analog ones such as CR39. A lot of reasons, actually

Re: [Vo]:CR39

2012-10-06 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 6 Oct 2012 17:42:14 -0400: Hi, [snip] > Has anyone run across a “how to use CR39 for dummies” type document or as >an alternitve, a experimental procedure describing in detail the use CR39 >to test for neutrons. AFAIK fast neutrons are detected by the fact

Re: [Vo]:Open Source Papp Update

2012-10-06 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Axil Axil wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FIrjnrTYofc > > > > Russ tries helium in video 12. > Unlike in the last video, the work being done in this one seems fairly significant. Later in the video the assembly is weighed at 70 poun

Re: [Vo]:CR39

2012-10-06 Thread zer tte
Hi Axil, http://www.slac.stanford.edu/cgi-wrap/getdoc/slac-pub-5655.pdf Samples are chemically etched then tracks are counted using a microscope. I guess it'll be hard to find a guide for dummies. Cheers. > > From: Axil Axil >To: vortex-l >Sent: Saturday,

Re: [Vo]:Designer of 3-D Printable Gun Has His 3-D Printer Seized

2012-10-06 Thread Jojo Jaro
A Funny thing always happens in discussions about communism and its associated philosophies, like Socialism, Social Justice, Social Security and Income Redistribution, Income Equality and the like. Advocates of such a philosphy always couch their arguments in apologetic, deceptive and covert t

Re: [Vo]:Designer of 3-D Printable Gun Has His 3-D Printer Seized

2012-10-06 Thread Daniel Rocha
This really doesn't make sense. All eagle species are flying species, but not all flying species are eagles. 2012/10/6 Jojo Jaro > Well, in fact, Income Redistribution is a quintessential philosophy in > communism. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Designer of 3-D Printable Gun Has His 3-D Printer Seized

2012-10-06 Thread Jouni Valkonen
Daniel, the income redistribution at USA was at it's peak in 1950's and 1960's when highest marginal tax rate for the rich people was 90%. Record high was 94% at 1940's. This golden era of keynesian redistribution saw highest prosperity increasing economic growth in history, because almost all

Re: [Vo]:Designer of 3-D Printable Gun Has His 3-D Printer Seized

2012-10-06 Thread Daniel Rocha
Aren't you mistaking me for JoJo? 2012/10/7 Jouni Valkonen > > > Daniel, the income redistribution at USA was at it's peak in 1950's and > 1960's when highest marginal tax rate for the rich people was 90%. Record > high was 94% at 1940's. This golden era of keynesian redistribution saw > highest

Re: [Vo]:Relativistic magnetic field

2012-10-06 Thread David Roberson
>Perhaps the best issue to be noted is the spinning electromagnet manifested as >a field of a car alternator. No where do I see it mentioned, except in my own >research: that there is a correct direction for the DC field currents to be in >harmony with the rotation. This only stands to be com

DC - DC EM induction? Re: [Vo]:Relativistic magnetic field

2012-10-06 Thread John Berry
I have been thinking about this a bit more. I have been doing more analysis, I have concluded that if the velocity of a charge is doubled the effective magnetic force it creates is quadrupled. I am very clear that this is so. Furthermore by doing a complete analysis I found that while this is so,

Re: [Vo]:Designer of 3-D Printable Gun Has His 3-D Printer Seized

2012-10-06 Thread Jojo Jaro
You say this with such hutzpah and authority as if this analogy were really appropriate. You analogy is faulty and I reject it. It does not even follow basic logical reasoning at all. Just to be clear, Income Redistribution is NOT a subset of Communism, as you claim with your analogy. NO.

Re: [Vo]:Designer of 3-D Printable Gun Has His 3-D Printer Seized

2012-10-06 Thread Jojo Jaro
Lies, Lies, Lies and statistics. One can use any statistic to prop up any lie one wants, as you have demonstrated here. Baloney. Even if your contention were true (which I highly question). The 1950's and 1960's where by no means the golden age of the American Economy as you contend. What

Re: [Vo]:Designer of 3-D Printable Gun Has His 3-D Printer Seized

2012-10-06 Thread Daniel Rocha
I am not doing an analogy at all. I am just talking about logic If A has something in common with B, it does not follow that A=B. I hope this issue of redistribution does not affect your personal life. It's something really trivial to understand and it is behind basic human relationships, like co