Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: just published on my Blog

2013-04-28 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sun, 28 Apr 2013 18:02:15 -0400: Hi, [snip] >In this experiment, the half-life of 232U in the induced Nanophotonic >electrical field induced within the influence of the laser field is *5 >milliseconds instead of 69 years.* > That should be 5 micro-seconds, not m

Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: just published on my Blog

2013-04-28 Thread Axil Axil
On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: > The light hydrogen system does produce tritium occasionally. > > As you might well know, the production of tritium by any nuclear system would be very problematical, and this is also true for a commercial Ni/H LENR system. Tritium is the ban

Re: [Vo]:Latest Journal of Condensed Matter Nuclear Science

2013-04-28 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Sun, 28 Apr 2013 18:23:12 -0700: Hi, [snip] >On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 6:15 PM, wrote: > >However for f/H, the story is different. Particularly at deep levels, where >> a >> significant proportion of the mass has been converted to energy. >> > >One question I ha

Re: [Vo]:Latest Journal of Condensed Matter Nuclear Science

2013-04-28 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sun, 28 Apr 2013 20:44:10 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Could f/H states of hydrogen be a symptom of LENR rather than a cause? > >Could screening of the hydrogen nucleus result in contracting electron >orbitals? I think reduction of the nuclear charge would result in expan

Re: [Vo]:More on a KGS "virtual neutron" and Ni-62

2013-04-28 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > You can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant For those seekin' balance . . . the next line " 'ceptin' Alice." e.g. Alice herself is not available.

Re: [Vo]:Latest Journal of Condensed Matter Nuclear Science

2013-04-28 Thread Eric Walker
On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 6:15 PM, wrote: However for f/H, the story is different. Particularly at deep levels, where > a > significant proportion of the mass has been converted to energy. > One question I have about the tight-binding hydrogen models -- what can be expected with regard to the elec

Re: [Vo]:Latest Journal of Condensed Matter Nuclear Science

2013-04-28 Thread mixent
In reply to David Roberson's message of Sun, 28 Apr 2013 20:05:01 -0400 (EDT): Hi, [snip] >I am still attempting to understand how and where the mass is distributed >around a charged particle since my thoughts suggest that a portion of the mass >must exist as energy in the surrounding fields. >

Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: just published on my Blog

2013-04-28 Thread Edmund Storms
Axil, you would make a more useful contribution if you read and used what has been observed. On Apr 28, 2013, at 6:24 PM, Axil Axil wrote: The connection between the referenced experiment and the Ni/H reactor is stronger than you state. The Ni/H reactor does not produce tritium, it produce

Re: [Vo]:Latest Journal of Condensed Matter Nuclear Science

2013-04-28 Thread Axil Axil
Could f/H states of hydrogen be a symptom of LENR rather than a cause? Could screening of the hydrogen nucleus result in contracting electron orbitals? On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 7:06 PM, wrote: > In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sun, 28 Apr 2013 07:17:13 -0700: > Hi, > [snip] > > There are

Re: [Vo]:More on a KGS "virtual neutron" and Ni-62

2013-04-28 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sun, 28 Apr 2013 17:18:41 -0700: Hi, [snip] >Original Message- >From: mix...@bigpond.com > >H + 62Ni => 63Cu + 6.122 MeV > >When you looked at the beta decay of 63Ni, you forgot the energy from the >addition of the proton. This energy has to be carried

Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: just published on my Blog

2013-04-28 Thread Axil Axil
The connection between the referenced experiment and the Ni/H reactor is stronger than you state. The Ni/H reactor does not produce tritium, it produces the majority of its transmutation products as very light elements, and an alpha particle is helium. The experiment does not produce gamma radiati

RE: [Vo]:More on a KGS "virtual neutron" and Ni-62

2013-04-28 Thread Jones Beene
Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com H + 62Ni => 63Cu + 6.122 MeV When you looked at the beta decay of 63Ni, you forgot the energy from the addition of the proton. This energy has to be carried by something. Hmmm ... burp ... how about a loan, Robin? Isn't this where Ali

Re: [Vo]:Latest Journal of Condensed Matter Nuclear Science

2013-04-28 Thread David Roberson
I would assume that the mass of the hydrogen atom is less than that of individual proton and electron once energy is radiated at 13.6 eV. This is a very tiny amount of mass difference, but it must occur. You have asked an interesting question about where the energy is stored. I suspect that

Re: [Vo]:13 GigaFLOPs

2013-04-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jouni Valkonen wrote: Hot Fusion (if it is even possible in practice, it is very possibly just a > pipe dream) is only cleaner than light water fission reactors. Advanced light water reactors may be cleaner and safer. See: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/KrakowskiRlessonslea.pdf - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Latest Journal of Condensed Matter Nuclear Science

2013-04-28 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sun, 28 Apr 2013 07:17:13 -0700: Hi, [snip] There are two assumptions that most papers purporting to show the impossibility of f/H states share. 1) They assume that spin is an intrinsic property of the electron. 2) I get the impression they also assume that t

Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: just published on my Blog

2013-04-28 Thread Edmund Storms
Yes, Axil, radioactive decay can be affected several different ways, but this is not LENR as normally defined. The discussion involves creation of helium, tritium, and transmutation using isotopes of hydrogen without application of extra energy and without significant radiation being emitte

Re: [Vo]:More on a KGS "virtual neutron" and Ni-62

2013-04-28 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sun, 28 Apr 2013 11:56:10 -0700: Hi Jones, [snip] >When this VN nears the larger nucleus however, the bond to the electron is >broken, but since the electron has effectively shielded the charge of the >proton, for long enough for the strong force of the Ni to s

Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: just published on my Blog

2013-04-28 Thread Axil Axil
*Does LENR result from single basic nuclear process that occurs in the same NAE, or is LENR a collection of independent processes that occur in various locations in a material, depending on a complex collection of conditions? * Let us get down to basics. Here is an experiment that shows LENR nucle

Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: just published on my Blog

2013-04-28 Thread Eric Walker
On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: The answer a person makes to this question determines the rest of the > discussion. Consequently, this conflict in basic belief must be resolved > before any discussion is possible. I get the impression that a great deal > of conflict has be

RE: [Vo]:More on a KGS "virtual neutron" and Ni-62

2013-04-28 Thread Jones Beene
That is a good question, but it is clear that Rossi has risked everything on this detail. The way his patent is worded, it is worthless for anything else. As mentioned in a previous thread, Ni-62 is a singularity in being the isotope with the highest binding energy per nucleon of all known nuclide

Re: [Vo]:13 GigaFLOPs

2013-04-28 Thread Jouni Valkonen
On Apr 28, 2013, at 5:55 AM, Eric Walker wrote: > Perhaps it is reasonable to call this kind of fusion clean in relation to > fission, but the label makes it easy to lose sight of the fact that it is not > all that clean. > Hot Fusion (if it is even possible in practice, it is very possibly j

Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: just published on my Blog

2013-04-28 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: > OK Peter, let's discuss. I view the LENR process like I would a complex > machine in which all the parts have a function, but each must work with the > other parts for the entire machine to work properly. I agree and; furthermore, believe th

RE: [Vo]:More on a KGS "virtual neutron" and Ni-62

2013-04-28 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
Jones, Ok, I understood. But then what makes the Ni62 special in this case? Arnaud _ From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: dimanche 28 avril 2013 20:56 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:More on a KGS "virtual neutron" and Ni-62

Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: just published on my Blog

2013-04-28 Thread Edmund Storms
OK Peter, let's discuss. I view the LENR process like I would a complex machine in which all the parts have a function, but each must work with the other parts for the entire machine to work properly. No part can be examined to determine its function without considering how it relates to e

Re: [Vo]:More on a KGS "virtual neutron" and Ni-62

2013-04-28 Thread Axil Axil
The concentration on N62 by Rossi is a false lead. DGT has revealed that Ni58, Ni60, and Ni64 will also support the LENR Ni/H reaction. All these candidate Ni/H fuels have a nuclear spin of zero. That coincidence may well be significant. On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Arnaud Kodeck wrot

Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: just published on my Blog

2013-04-28 Thread Axil Axil
The enemy of LENR is scientific focus. Development of LENR requires good knowledge levels in a dozen fields of science and engineering to support any progress in the subject. For example, it is unrealistic to ask a chemist to design a car. The chemist has a focused view of his particular subject c

RE: [Vo]:More on a KGS "virtual neutron" and Ni-62

2013-04-28 Thread Jones Beene
Arnaud, Yes - that is why I tried to make it clear that a VN or virtual neutron reaction is not the same as a beta decay (following a real neutron absorption, which has a half-life). The analogy is being used to assess the net energy available. It is hard to make this kind of distinction crystal

Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: just published on my Blog

2013-04-28 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Ed, Thank you very much for this bright answer. It seems to me that in the implicit mode you agree with the idea that CF has arrived before its time- and this is the reason of its slow and hesitant development. For example re understanding of LENR you had sufficient data to work out your theo

RE: [Vo]:More on a KGS "virtual neutron" and Ni-62

2013-04-28 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
Jones, It's very interesting theory. Nevertheless, in the web page you mention here below, it says that Ni63 has a half life of around 100 years (a century). I don't think Rossi's device can stay on for that long time. Arnaud _ From: Jones Beene [mailt

[Vo]:Re: CMNS: just published on my Blog

2013-04-28 Thread Edmund Storms
Peter, I'm glad you are trying to look at the LENR phenomenon from a broad perspective. Let me add a few of my insights about where I think the field stands right now without naming names. More than enough information has been accumulated to provide the basis for the correct explanation and

[Vo]:More on a KGS "virtual neutron" and Ni-62

2013-04-28 Thread Jones Beene
Let me add that Robin has been suggesting something akin to this for some time, based on Mills instead of the KGS (Klein Gordon state) or DDL and it could be that any deeply redundant state will suffice. One detail that reinforces the notion that the Rossi reaction, if it is real and based on Ni-

RE: [Vo]:evidence of dineutrons

2013-04-28 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Harry Veeder Focus: Nuclei Emit Paired-up Neutrons = A neutron-rich nucleus can emit a neutron pair as a single unit as a product of nuclear decay A neutron-only nucleus is considered physically impossible... Wait a minute - despite what Phyics.org wants yo

RE: [Vo]:Latest Journal of Condensed Matter Nuclear Science

2013-04-28 Thread Jones Beene
Kevin, it was in a previous JCMNS article - but since I posted that, it looks like it may have been a misreading of a detail about a deeply bound ground state. Nevertheless - here is more info to follow up on. Note - a new paper by Rice and Kim dispute the "Deep Dirac Layer" which is similar but n