Re: [Vo]:3rd Party Report Released

2013-05-19 Thread Giovanni Santostasi
Are they going to publish this report in a respected Physics Journal? Which one exactly? Giovanni On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 1:10 AM, James Bowery wrote: > Bologna University, Uppsala University and Royal Institute of Technology, > Stockholm must all have good football teams. > > > On Sun, May 19,

Re: [Vo]:3rd Party Report Released

2013-05-19 Thread Giovanni Santostasi
No football teams in Bologna University. In Italy Universities are focused on academics not sports. Giovanni On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 1:10 AM, James Bowery wrote: > Bologna University, Uppsala University and Royal Institute of Technology, > Stockholm must all have good football teams. > > > On

Re: [Vo]:3rd Party Report Released

2013-05-19 Thread James Bowery
Bologna University, Uppsala University and Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm must all have good football teams. On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Brad Lowe wrote: > Available here: > http://arxiv.org/abs/1305.3913 > > Press release > > http://ecat.com/news/3rd-party-report-shows-anomalou

Re: [Vo]:3rd Party Report Released

2013-05-19 Thread Patrick Ellul
Re: Seven authors altogether (I think I remember hearing a larger number at some point). The number of involved scientists mentioned were high, somewhere around 15. In the paper, there are various other people mentioned in the acknowledgements section. These could be counted as involved scientists

Re: [Vo]:3rd Party Report Released

2013-05-19 Thread Eric Walker
> > Computed volumetric and gravimetric energy densities were found to be far > above those of any known chemical source. Even by the most conservative > assumptions as to the errors in the measurements, the result is still one > order of magnitude greater than conventional energy sources. This i

[Vo]:Compact Reactor by Pharis E. Williams

2013-05-19 Thread Harry Veeder
Compact Reactor: Pharis E. Williams Abstract. Weyl's Gauge Principle of 1929 has been used to establish Weyl's Quantum Principle (WQP) that requires that the Weyl scale factor should be unity. It has been shown that the WQP requires the following: quantum mechanics must be used to determine syst

[Vo]:3rd Party Report Released

2013-05-19 Thread Brad Lowe
Available here: http://arxiv.org/abs/1305.3913 Press release http://ecat.com/news/3rd-party-report-shows-anomalous-heat-production-the-rossi-effect and direct report download: http://ecat.com/files/Indication-of-anomalous-heat-energy-production-in-a-reactor-device.pdf 29 page report... skimming

Re: [Vo]:Nickel Aluminum (NiAl)

2013-05-19 Thread francis
Ed, I have been without pc all weekend but see that Mark and Jones made a far better response than I could have managed, someone made reference to the Haisch Rhueda paper on inertia which bears heavily on your questions about if this is normal photon radiation . if they are correct

Re: [Vo]:Percentage of Physicist who reject LENR

2013-05-19 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote: "Some have seen enough to be persuaded that there is an a priori case to be made for investigating the matter further." Typo -- I meant "prima facie case." Eric

Re: [Vo]:Percentage of Physicist who reject LENR

2013-05-19 Thread Eric Walker
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Alain Sepeda wrote: I have no doubt that the result will be evewhelmingly against, > meaningless, and based on ignorance... > I'm not so sure about that. I think that we should give people some credit. By that I mean that it is my impression that professionals

Re: [Vo]:Is Kepler Kaput?

2013-05-19 Thread ChemE Stewart
I think the "vacuum' of space, especially near the Sun, is a lot more energetic then we think due to those billions of tons of energetic particles expelled daily in all different directions. It is apparently very hard on equipment. On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > Things

Re: [Vo]:'Slow' arcing electrons can gain relativistic mass

2013-05-19 Thread Axil Axil
Ed Storms states: *Do you understand that you are focusing only on the Rossi method, while I'm talking about all 5 of the other methods known to initiate nuclear reactions? If your model cannot explain all methods and results, then it is not very useful.* Axil responds: I can see how the nano-pa

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-19 Thread Axil Axil
If you looked at the reference I provided, you would have seen both internal and external voids filled with Rydberg matter through hydrogen loading. On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 2:31 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote: > Axil: > > Were the voids he studied at the surface??? If so, then you failed to read

[Vo]:Is Kepler Kaput?

2013-05-19 Thread Terry Blanton
Things were going so well. http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/kepler/news/keplerm-20130515.html

RE: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-19 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Axil: Were the voids he studied at the surface??? If so, then you failed to read my posting accurately. I am discussing voids which are formed internally, and completely isolated from the surface layers. How did Miley determine that? If he was looking at surface defects (voids), then that is

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-19 Thread Edmund Storms
On May 19, 2013, at 11:55 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote: To which Ed answered, mainly expressing what his view is inside this void: “The answer depends on which theory you accept. In my case, the void consists initially of a strong negative charge created by the electrons in the wall that a

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-19 Thread Axil Axil
George H. Miley has experimentally found Rydberg matter in the cavities. End of story. On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: > I agree with what you say, Mark. The parameters have to be within range, > but that range is generally not exceeded unless a real effort is made. > Cons

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-19 Thread Edmund Storms
I agree with what you say, Mark. The parameters have to be within range, but that range is generally not exceeded unless a real effort is made. Consequently, the laws usually apply and must not be ignored just because they may fail outside of an extreme range. On the other hand, I'm amuse

RE: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-19 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
I have to stop getting distracted from the main point I wanted to discuss in this thread. I posited the following: I would like to drill down a little more into nothingness, and look inside a NAE. -- Assume we start out with a chunk of solid palladium with NO internal voids or 'c

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-19 Thread Axil Axil
1) what’s inside that void? Reference concerning nano-particles: http://www.newenergytimes.com/v2/conferences/2010/ARL/Pres/06aMiley-Transmutations.pdf *Transmutation Type LENR* * * George H. Miley Connection to nano-particle catalytic LENR studies -Our work attempts to nano-m

Re: [Vo]:Percentage of Physicist who reject LENR

2013-05-19 Thread Alain Sepeda
I have no doubt that the result will be evewhelmingly against, meaningless, and based on ignorance... the question is what could an opponent use to support his position? maybe is is a consequence of the "democracy" meme, but it seems that today we trust more majority than evidences... we also ask

Re: [Vo]:Percentage of Physicist who reject LENR

2013-05-19 Thread Daniel Rocha
Most likely less than .1% 2013/5/19 Alain Sepeda > Just a practical question . (serious, I need a number) > is there any statistic about the ratio of physicist who think LENR is not > real? > > -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

RE: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-19 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Couldn't agree MORE with your statement that mathematicians can find a mathematical way to explain anything, given a few initial assumptions. case in point, quantum physics! ;-) And those pesky infinities.what to do with those? Let's just 'renormalize' them. I wonder if it as a physicist or a m

Re: [Vo]:Percentage of Physicist who reject LENR

2013-05-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alain Sepeda wrote: Just a practical question . (serious, I need a number) > is there any statistic about the ratio of physicist who think LENR is not > real? > I do not think the question is meaningful. As Ed says, all discoveries start with only one person believing them (the discoverer). The

RE: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-19 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Ed said: "Some of these behaviors have been described in ways we call laws because the descriptions always apply." I would add the following ending to that statement for it to be precise: ".because the descriptions always apply when experimental parameters are within the ranges established

Re: [Vo]:Percentage of Physicist who reject LENR

2013-05-19 Thread Peter Gluck
See please http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Marshall Barry Marshall and Robin Warren, two Australian physicians had great troubles with the colleagues. Peter On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Alexander Hollins < alexander.holl...@gmail.com> wrote: > Wait, what about pylori? > > > On Sun, May 1

Re: [Vo]:Percentage of Physicist who reject LENR

2013-05-19 Thread Alexander Hollins
Wait, what about pylori? On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Peter Gluck wrote: > It is about minorities > % of physicists who believe in LENR; > % of LENR- ists who believe in LENR+ (but wait a year!) > > I think the most relevant, relative recent case is that of Helicobacter > pylori The case is

Re: [Vo]:Percentage of Physicist who reject LENR

2013-05-19 Thread leaking pen
zero percent of those who have actually run the experiments themselves? On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Alain Sepeda wrote: > Just a practical question . (serious, I need a number) > is there any statistic about the ratio of physicist who think LENR is not > real? > > is there a recent number a

Re: [Vo]:Percentage of Physicist who reject LENR

2013-05-19 Thread Peter Gluck
It is about minorities % of physicists who believe in LENR; % of LENR- ists who believe in LENR+ (but wait a year!) I think the most relevant, relative recent case is that of Helicobacter pylori The case is well described, statistics cannot be made. All the cases are half history , three quarter a

Re: [Vo]:Of NAEs and nothingness...

2013-05-19 Thread Edmund Storms
Mark, I agree that we do not know all we think we know and many rules can be violated when conditions change. Nevertheless, we do have a collection of observations that show how Nature behaves. Some of these behaviors have been described in ways we call laws because the descriptions always

[Vo]:Percentage of Physicist who reject LENR

2013-05-19 Thread Alain Sepeda
Just a practical question . (serious, I need a number) is there any statistic about the ratio of physicist who think LENR is not real? is there a recent number about the number or peer-reviewed papers, positive or negative about LENR, eliminating the journal that are dedicated to LENr, free energi

Re: [Vo]:Nickel Aluminum (NiAl)

2013-05-19 Thread Jack Cole
Very good. Thanks Ed for the insight. On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: > Jack, you would have more success and not waste your time if you applied > some basic chemistry. More hydrogen does not result in more loading. Only > the pressure and temperature determine the amount

Re: [Vo]:Nickel Aluminum (NiAl)

2013-05-19 Thread Edmund Storms
Jack, you would have more success and not waste your time if you applied some basic chemistry. More hydrogen does not result in more loading. Only the pressure and temperature determine the amount of loading. In addition, Constantan does not dissolve much H in any case. Addition of alumin

Re: [Vo]:Undiscovered error hypothesis

2013-05-19 Thread Kevin O'Malley
It must be emphasized that although cold fusion results are surprising, the techniques are conventional and instruments are used within their design specifications. ***This means that Cold Fusion doesn't really qualify as an extraordinary claim requiring extraordinary proof. It is basically an or

Re: [Vo]:Ping

2013-05-19 Thread Harry Veeder
pong On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > Broken or disinterested? > >