I don't think that hydrinos is behind LENR. It do look like in FP
experiment you get a stronger effect if you use deutrium. So then I would
expect that it is a nuclear reaction no? Anyway as people have suggested
and Mills also acknowledge nuclear reactions can probably be triggered via
hydrino
Dear Stefan,
BLP plays in an other league than LENR , it is kind of hyper-chemisity.
Perhaps my ancient paper could help you to get the holistic vision:
http://pubs.acs.org/subscribe/archive/ci/31/i10/html/10vp.html
*Technologically*, Randy must solve a very *wicked problem *to convert a
batch,
Jones,
The more obvious cross connection is to the paper by Naudts describing the
hydrino as relativistic hydrogen. IMHO it is this linkage between inertial
frames that is providing a soft anchor into the ether upon which we can either
push, as in the EM drive, or be pushed as in Mills and
From: Stefan Israelsson Tampe
I don't think that hydrinos is behind LENR. It do look like in FP experiment
you get a stronger effect if you use deutrium.
The Rossi effect looks nothing like FP either, nor does the new Mizuno work.
And there are experiments where hydrogen works and
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
The best evidence is the helium that turns up in PF style reactions, but
there are arguments from leading experts that helium is non-existent.
Which leading expert said that? Krivit?
- Jed
Krivit is a journalist, not an expert in mass spectrometry. Brian Ahern is one
expert who believes that the case for helium is not made. There are others who
are less vocal than Brian, or more circumspect in public pronouncements, but
equally in doubt.
Surely you do not think that Krivit
http://phys.org/news/2014-07-tiny-magnets-huge-fields-nanoscale.html#nwlt
Doudin et al - at University of Strasbourg propose that nano ferromagnetic
electrodes can create powerful localized force fields which are tuned by an
external magnetic field. Localized field is a key. Inverse square power
Perhaps they have made the required measurements properly. The magnitude of
the force is quite low and subject to error somewhat like the neutrino problem
that CERN recently encountered. If they had the entire system enclosed within
the drive mechanism, including all of the DC batteries and
If a magnetic force is produced by an atomic level cause whose dimensions
are nanoscale, and the intensity of the magnetic force at 20 cm is 1 tesla.
By the cube law relationship, the intensity of the magnetic source as
produced on the nanoscale can be reckoned as 2*10^^8 cubed or something
like
If the UFO phenomena is real, and there seems to be a lot of mounting evidence
to that effect, then the aliens must have some form of drive that does not
require rocket fuels that we are familiar with. Perhaps this is a glimpse of
how it is accomplished. Unfortunately, I remain skeptical of
How much input power would it take to generate enough drive force to propel a
small spaceship? It appears we are speaking about many billions of watts under
the present conditions. I assume that future developments will improve the
performance, provided it is real.
Dave
What if the drive fields are able to make virtual particles become real ones
that can be directed backwards? At first thought, that might keep the
conservation laws intact. Is this what you are suggesting Axil?
This seems like a large stretch.
Dave
-Original Message-
From:
I suggested something like negative gravity. The force that NASA has
stumbled onto could be the force produced causing the expansion of the
universe. If there is a process that produces RF all over the universe, it
could be pushing matter in opposition to the attractive force of gravity.
We
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Krivit is a journalist,
Krivit is a blogger.
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Krivit is a journalist, not an expert in mass spectrometry. Brian Ahern is
one expert who believes that the case for helium is not made.
Okay, that's one person. I was not aware that he is an expert in mass
spectroscopy.
There are others who are
Jones and Axil--
As You may guess, I tend to agree with your considerations regarding spin
coupling and magnetic resonances. The intense fields at small dimensions
allowed by the nano size structures is an inference that I have long held.
Keep up the good discovery work. I wonder if any
The Biot-Savart Law is a square law effect. You will see a cubic law drop off
for a bipolar configuration such as a bar magnet once you become removed from
the nearby pole. The field drop off rate due to a tiny differential current
element alone is second order.
Dave
-Original
Axil, you are assuming that the source is a tiny point. The true dimensions
are much larger since superposition of many tiny sources contributes to the
measurement.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Aug 1, 2014
Along this line of thought...If dark matter and energy are real they must have
mass distributed throughout space. Perhaps it is possible to push this mass
backwards by some electromagnetic process and thereby conserve the momentum
overall. It is not clear to me how one can push something
From: Jed Rothwell
Brian Ahern is one expert who believes that the case for
helium is not made.
JR: Okay, that's one person. I was not aware that he is an
expert in mass spectroscopy.
Yes. Brian has had access to
Bob, you seem to have a good working knowledge of MRI devices so I have a few
questions for you. Does the emission frequency of the hydrogen nucleus become
tuned by the level of the external super magnetic field? How much tuning is
seen during normal operation and in research?
The reason I
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
JR: The cold fusion researchers I know are not circumspect
about anything. They tend to be bold.
Everyone in the field, aside from Krivit, respects and admires Mike McKubre
to the max …
Nope. I know several who do not like him, who
There seems to be a lot of focus on McKubre without any reference to
Miles-Bush @ China-Lake U of Texas, DeNino @ ENEA, Arata -- amongst
around a dozen others. The SRI, China Lake, ENEA work is the most
extensive/thorough. Are there possible holes in the SRI work? Sure. But the
broad body of
Very simple answer to that one. They are waiting for kilowatt-hrs of thermal
gain - continuing for months at a time before testing. IOW … like Rossi - but
with deuterium as the active isotope, producing significant quantities of
helium - for which contamination CANNOT be responsible.
24 MeV
If a reaction with a virtual particle is involved, the virtual particle
will provide the counter momentum in the instantaneous period of time while
it is in existence.
Then the virtual particle will disappear back into the vacuum. The vacuum
will then absorb the counter force. It will appear
MY last computer crashed again and I lost my bookmarks. Looking for 12 part
segment on Znidarsic but I couldn't find it on google since the forum changed
their address. Can Frank or any other Vort members direct me back to this
treasure trove? Would appreciate this as I never finished the
I was not aware of Poher, but given that shouldn't Morton be considered a
further and earlier verification of this effect?
Sure it might be harder to directly replicate his results, but the same
force from an asymmetrical spark discharge was noted.
It might also be worth noting Piggot:
OK forget about McKubre for a moment and bring in the others. Are any of them
above the watt level?
If deuterium fuses to helium as a predictable reaction on the milliwatt level,
then how does one explain that when the experimenter tries to go robust with
the gain, as in the recent case of
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Interesting article. A quote:
Recently, however, scientists at University of Strasbourg, France have
proposed that this limitation can be addressed by using miniaturized
ferromagnetic electrodes to create powerful
My theory of the reaction assumes the reaction starts in the 5 micron
nickel particles at the time before the initiation of plasma formation.
This powder is in a confined volume but is comprised of many nano sized
sources.
So there will be some fuzziness at 20 cms when the initial magnetic field
LENR is a mystery Jones.
Could you please link to the Mizuno work for me? Thanks.
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
OK forget about McKubre for a moment and bring in the others. Are any of
them above the watt level?
If deuterium fuses to helium as a
The Mizuno experiment shows us two keystone concepts about the nature of
the LENR reaction.
There is causation at a distance where unconfined deuterium in the gas
envelope is converted to protium , and that isolated endothermic nuclear
reactions can happen in LERN as long as the total energy
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 7:01 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
We need to distinguish between “nuclear” and “fusion.” The is little
evidence of a fusion reaction in any form of LENR, sorry to say, but yes,
the gain is nuclear, in the sense of nuclear mass being converted into
energy in
Foks0904 . foks0...@gmail.com wrote:
LENR is a mystery Jones.
Could you please link to the Mizuno work for me? Thanks.
I suppose he means the latest from Mizuno, where he describes nanoparticles
produced with glow discharge:
http://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?p=1465
The calorimetry has been
I wrote:
In PdD and NiH, fast alphas and protons.
Make that, In PdD and NiH, fast protons. Fast alphas have also been
seen, but to my knowledge not in NiH systems.
Eric
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Very simple answer to that one. They are waiting for kilowatt-hrs of
thermal gain - continuing for months at a time before testing. IOW … like
Rossi - but with deuterium as the active isotope, producing significant
quantities of helium - for which
John,
Here is the story of the presentation - with a link to the slide show.
http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/03/29/slideshow-of-mizuno-yoshino-presentation-at-mit-conference-published/
A link to the Clean Planet web site is here:
http://cleanplanet.co.jp/index.php?lang=en
Over 100
Dave--
My understanding is old and may be off base. However here goes.
The magnetic field to which a magnetic dipole moment is subjected becomes
degenerate and the quantum spin states separate in energy with the magnetic
field strength. The frequency of any given state is associated with
I don't know about that. Momentum would not be conserved unless something gets
set into motion in the opposite direction. If the virtual particle were to
disappear then it seems unlikely that it can do that without depositing the
momentum somewhere that makes a difference.
Perhaps a tiny
In reply to James Bowery's message of Fri, 1 Aug 2014 00:33:45 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 11:22 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
It's actually the other way around. Mills came up with the theory first,
then
started looking for ways to realize practical benefits from it.
Ah!
Here is the story of the MIT presentation of the
latest-and-greatest from Mizuno and the well-funded Clean Planet startup
company- with a link to the slide show.
http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/03/29/slideshow-of-mizuno-yoshino-presentatio
n-at-mit-conference-published/
There are only 2 copies available for sale at Amazon, both used paperbacks
and the cheapest is $599.00
I doubt this is available by interlibrary loan but I've sent out a request.
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 5:08 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to James Bowery's message of Fri, 1 Aug 2014
Thank you for your interest Harvey. Parts of that video sequence have been
removed due to an image copyright complaint.
I do have good news, however, a peer reviewed journal of chemistry at Benham
has approved my paper for publication.
We will have to see how this goes. Someone may step
As you say the new thing here are D in Ni instead of the old D in Pd.
Maybe He stay inside Ni but diffuse more easy from Pd.
New result are always more uncertainly, wait for replication.
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
1) If deuterium were to fuse to helium in LENR providing the excess
heat, copious fusion reactions should be seen in this work, and witnessed
by
an unequivocally large amount of helium. Helium was not seen.
Sez who? Did they look for helium? As
From: Jed Rothwell
Sez who? Did they look for helium? As far as I know Mizuno does not have a mass
spectrometer that can distinguish helium from D2.
I will ask him if they looked for helium.
Apparently you did not read it carefully. He does not need to distinguish
helium from D2.
Correction
- what Mills would call deuterino-deuteride (instead of deuterium deuteride)
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 19 Jul 2014 15:31:57 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
How Rossi might better control his reactor.
Rossis 1 Megawatt reactor contains 100 cells of 10 kilowatts each. If
Rossi were to interconnect them all together with fiber optic cable so that
they could all share the
Thanks...
Most spectroscopic applications with fiber-optics have been restricted to
wavelength ranges above 230 nm, because standard silica fibers with an
undoped core and fluorine doped cladding are frequently damaged by exposure
to deep-UV light (below 230 nm). This solarization effect is
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