Re: [Vo]:Fact or fiction: Irish firm invents everlasting battery

2016-01-25 Thread mixent
In reply to Che's message of Mon, 25 Jan 2016 23:36:37 -0500: Hi, I would guess that the Lithium battery is probably the most temperature sensitive component, though the maximum might also be determined by the electronics. >On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 11:27 PM, Eric Walker

Re: [Vo]:Fact or fiction: Irish firm invents everlasting battery

2016-01-25 Thread Esa Ruoho
judging from how "well" iPhones perform over here in Finland, about -15celsius is when stuff starts breaking down and refuses to hold a charge. On 26 January 2016 at 06:36, Che wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 11:27 PM, Eric Walker >

Re: [Vo]:Fact or fiction: Irish firm invents everlasting battery

2016-01-25 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Mon, 25 Jan 2016 22:27:53 -0600: Hi, >Hi Robin, > >I understand you to be suggesting that ions in the air might restore the >state of the Orbo by removing electrons from one plate through >de-ionization. ...and also adding them to the other plate. When an

Re: [Vo]:Fact or fiction: Irish firm invents everlasting battery

2016-01-25 Thread Eric Walker
Hi Robin, I understand you to be suggesting that ions in the air might restore the state of the Orbo by removing electrons from one plate through de-ionization. An ion comes along and picks up an electron, becoming electrically neutral and restoring the original potential by a small amount. On

Re: [Vo]:Fact or fiction: Irish firm invents everlasting battery

2016-01-25 Thread Che
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 11:27 PM, Eric Walker wrote: > Hi Robin, > > I understand you to be suggesting that ions in the air might restore the > state of the Orbo by removing electrons from one plate through > de-ionization. An ion comes along and picks up an electron,

Re: [Vo]:Fact or fiction: Irish firm invents everlasting battery

2016-01-25 Thread H Veeder
It might depend on thermal gradients. Harry On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:31 PM, Esa Ruoho wrote: > Harry, they've stated that it will work inside a Faraday cage, so it's not > an energy-harvester using RF as power-source, like the ADGEX ELFE and the > forthcoming ADGEX Tachyon

Re: [Vo]:Fact or fiction: Irish firm invents everlasting battery

2016-01-25 Thread Esa Ruoho
Quite a few people on the web have ordered these and will give them a whirl. Including a few Finns who are taking them to an university and having scientists look at them. It looks like this is really progressing and we will definitely know within the next 3 months whether there's anything in

Re: [Vo]:Fact or fiction: Irish firm invents everlasting battery

2016-01-25 Thread H Veeder
This new Orbo product is reputed to employ "electrets" - a material that retains a dialectric charge for hundreds years - which is the electric equivalent of a permanent magnet. A lot of research is being done on electrets for use in energy harvesting, so this time Steorn may be marketing a

Re: [Vo]:Fact or fiction: Irish firm invents everlasting battery

2016-01-25 Thread Che
Mary Yugo has been after all OU from the very first day Steorn came to our attention. On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 12:31 PM, H Veeder wrote: > Fact or fiction: Irish firm invents everlasting battery > > Is Steorn’s Orbo technology a non-polluting, supercheap source of power –

Re: [Vo]:Fact or fiction: Irish firm invents everlasting battery

2016-01-25 Thread Esa Ruoho
Harry, they've stated that it will work inside a Faraday cage, so it's not an energy-harvester using RF as power-source, like the ADGEX ELFE and the forthcoming ADGEX Tachyon products will be. So we'll see. That leaked investor-video contained this nugget: "Shaun showed the internal components

Re: [Vo]:Fact or fiction: Irish firm invents everlasting battery

2016-01-25 Thread Che
A kinder, gentler hatchet-job. On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 12:31 PM, H Veeder wrote: > Fact or fiction: Irish firm invents everlasting battery > > Is Steorn’s Orbo technology a non-polluting, supercheap source of power – > or a delusion ? > > ​(article and video)​ > > >

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[Vo]:Fact or fiction: Irish firm invents everlasting battery

2016-01-25 Thread H Veeder
Fact or fiction: Irish firm invents everlasting battery Is Steorn’s Orbo technology a non-polluting, supercheap source of power – or a delusion ? ​(article and video)​ http://www.irishtimes.com/business/fact-or-fiction-irish-firm-invents-everlasting-battery-1.2506832 ​Harry​

[Vo]:Orbo- Battery _Steorn and Lockheed- Bushman Battery Patent

2016-01-25 Thread Ron Kita
Greetings Vortex, I was wondering IF it will be possible to compare the Orbo Battery with the Power Source Patent of my late Lockheeed Martin friend. Boyd Bushman:

Re: [Vo]:Fact or fiction: Irish firm invents everlasting battery

2016-01-25 Thread Bob Higgins
Electrets have been made for hundreds of years. These electrets, if shorted, and then opened will have the charge return and a high electric field will once again be present. In the shorting, charge was conducted from one plate to another, so work was done. Electrets are odd devices. Electrets

Re: [Vo]:Fact or fiction: Irish firm invents everlasting battery

2016-01-25 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 6:27 PM, Bob Higgins wrote: Electrets have been made for hundreds of years. These electrets, if > shorted, and then opened will have the charge return and a high electric > field will once again be present. In the shorting, charge was conducted

Re: [Vo]:Fact or fiction: Irish firm invents everlasting battery

2016-01-25 Thread Esa J. Ruoho
They have likened to The effect in The Orbo-powergenerator to be Piezoelectric in nature. Feels to me like it is hearing something and transforming it into droplets that it spews forth and that are Directed into The Lithium-Ion battery. Sent from some iDevice. Written by Esa. > Eric Walker

Re: [Vo]:Fact or fiction: Irish firm invents everlasting battery

2016-01-25 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Esa Ruoho wrote: Quite a few people on the web have ordered these and will give them a > whirl. Including a few Finns who are taking them to an university and > having scientists look at them. > This is the way to deal with any claim from an

Re: [Vo]:Fact or fiction: Irish firm invents everlasting battery

2016-01-25 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Esa Ruoho wrote: The result is that a permanent electric field is "frozen" into the gel > material, with positive and negative poles. This polarized electric field > then interacts with the two dissimilar metals to generate an electric >

RE: [Vo]:Fact or fiction: Irish firm invents everlasting battery

2016-01-25 Thread Jones Beene
4-5 years ago there was a lot of activity on the alternative energy forums concerning the “CapTret” which combines features of electret and capacitor to extend the life of a battery. It does work. http://jnaudin.free.fr/captret/index.htm http://open-source-energy.org/?topic=1637.0 The

Re: [Vo]:Fact or fiction: Irish firm invents everlasting battery

2016-01-25 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Mon, 25 Jan 2016 18:07:58 -0600: Hi, Here's a guess on where the energy might be coming from. Sunlight ionizes atoms in the atmosphere. Many of these do not recombine immediately, because dry air is a poor conductor. Suppose that the electret collected and