Re: [Vo]:Re: Let's continue to think about passive vs active approach to LENR 's existentil problems

2016-05-11 Thread Stephen Cooke
Hi Jed, do you know what the temperature of the steam was? I understood you mentioned that Jim said the pressure also rose, but I wonder if it was at air pressure if it might have explained the lack of apparent steam vapour? If the steam was much hotter than 100 deg C at air pressure it would

[Vo]:U.S. House Armed Services Committee Calls for New Report on LENR

2016-05-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
A surprising development. See: https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.php/Thread/3240-U-S-House-Armed-Services-Committee-Calls-for-New-Report-on-LENR-in-FY2017-Nation/ The committee is aware of recent positive developments in developing low-energy nuclear reactions (LENR), which produce ultra- cl

Re: [Vo]:Re: Let's continue to think about passive vs active approach to LENR 's existentil problems

2016-05-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stephen Cooke wrote: Hi Jed, do you know what the temperature of the steam was? > I know practically nothing about this device. Rossi never described it. Jim Dunn never got a chance to evaluate it, because Rossi threw him out. There are some photos of it at Krivit's site but no detailed descript

[Vo]:Re: Let's continue to think about passive vs active approach to LENR 's existentil problems

2016-05-11 Thread Bob Cook
Jim Dunn’s background is identified at the following link: http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:James_Dunn His technical background does not seem to be in thermal hydraulics. He seems to be more of a marketer for hydrogen fuel and renewable energy. There could have been some conflict of int

Re: [Vo]:Re: Let's continue to think about passive vs active approach to LENR 's existentil problems

2016-05-11 Thread Stephen Cooke
Thanks Jed for replying, I can appreciate its not easy taking your stance and that it's difficult for you to explain things from this view point. Especially when you can't discuss some things you know about the current context and have to instead draw on older material to which you had concerns

[Vo]:Rydberg Matter and electron orbitals

2016-05-11 Thread Stephen Cooke
Has anyone looked at RM from the point of view of quantum mechanical electron orbitals? If so could you help me understand some crazy thoughts and questions I have about it ? I understand Rydberg hydrogen matter typically forms from excited hydrogen atoms in some way. Most literature seems to

[Vo]:very significant news, and LENR meets plain English

2016-05-11 Thread Peter Gluck
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/05/may-11-2016-lenr-gets-attention-meets.html more will come peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:Rydberg Matter and electron orbitals

2016-05-11 Thread Bob Higgins
Stephen, My understanding is that Rydberg hydrogen is highly excited hydrogen - it is just below an energy that the hydrogen would be ionized. In fact, small energy inputs to hydrogen in a Rydberg state will ionize it. As I understand the orbitals for Rydberg state hydrogen they are huge diameter

Re: [Vo]:Re: Let's continue to think about passive vs active approach to LENR 's existentil problems

2016-05-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Bob Cook wrote: > [Dunn] seems to be more of a marketer for hydrogen fuel and renewable > energy. There could have been some conflict of interest with Rossi’s goals > of marketing his E-Cat. Who knows, maybe Rossi saw thru the $15 M offer > Jed talks about and concluded it was not for him. >

Re: [Vo]:Rydberg Matter and electron orbitals

2016-05-11 Thread Stephen Cooke
Thanks Bob, That it helps a lot I must admit I have a lot to learn about Rydberg matter. Would these highly excited and Bohr atom like elliptical orbitals still correspond to some kind of quantum mechanical orbital? Perhaps a highly excited S orbital or something? Even highly excited P, D, F an

Re: [Vo]:Rydberg Matter and electron orbitals

2016-05-11 Thread Stephen Cooke
I am quite curious if it is the switch from a P orbital to and S orbital or visa versa is what causes it to switch to from H(1) to H(0). Perhaps the electrons still remain in an excited state in the other orbital. > On 11 mei 2016, at 21:03, Stephen Cooke wrote: > > Thanks Bob, > > That it h

Re: [Vo]:Rydberg Matter and electron orbitals

2016-05-11 Thread Bob Higgins
In RM of hydrogen, I there is only one electron, and it is in the orbital for that high energy state. Maybe it is considered a Rydberg orbital, where the S orbital would be lower (ground) energy and spherical. I don't know much about RM with other atoms, but I think it is just an outer electron i

Re: [Vo]:Re: Let's continue to think about passive vs active approach to LENR 's existentil problems

2016-05-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stephen Cooke wrote: > Especially when you can't discuss some things you know about the current > context and have to instead draw on older material to which you had > concerns about at the time but previously gave the benefit of the doubt. > Yes, that is the situation. > We should try to re

Re: [Vo]:Rydberg Matter and electron orbitals

2016-05-11 Thread Axil Axil
http://phys.org/news/2016-05-ultra-fast-x-ray-lasers-illuminate-elusive.html With high speed x-ray and infrared lasers, it is now possible to take a picture of the spins and electron orbits of these hydrides. R Mills and Holmlid should get their butts over to this lab and actually see what they i

Re: [Vo]:Rydberg Matter and electron orbitals

2016-05-11 Thread Bob Higgins
I am pretty sure almost any interaction with even an optical photon would destroy RM. It is so near to ionization anyway. Not sure what you are talking about for photos of spins and orbits of hydrides. On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > > http://phys.org/news/2016-05-ultra-fa

Re: [Vo]:Rydberg Matter and electron orbitals

2016-05-11 Thread mixent
In reply to Bob Higgins's message of Wed, 11 May 2016 12:05:43 -0600: Hi, [snip] >Stephen, My understanding is that Rydberg hydrogen is highly excited >hydrogen - it is just below an energy that the hydrogen would be ionized. >In fact, small energy inputs to hydrogen in a Rydberg state will ioniz

Re: [Vo]:Rydberg Matter and electron orbitals

2016-05-11 Thread Eric Walker
With regard to excited electrons in non-s-shell orbitals, keep in mind the precession of the orbital around the atomic center. I presume it will cause a p-shell orbital to assume the shape of a torus. It's like a quickly spinning propellor -- imagine trying to get such a propellor to mesh with ano