Re: [Vo]:Initial Criticality

2023-03-08 Thread Robin
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 8 Mar 2023 20:10:40 -0500: Hi, [snip] >> When electric cars become more common, they can contribute to grid >> storage, allowing higher percentages of renewable >> energy sources. >> This also reduces CO2 from the transport sector. >> > >Yup. There has be

Re: [Vo]:Initial Criticality

2023-03-08 Thread Terry Blanton
N Ga Hydro actually had 6 different facilities. The main plant of which I spoke, is at the bottom of Tallulah Gorge still producing 72 MW almost every day. The smallest is 10 kW at the head of the water source. Had to go put it back online after a storm but every watt helps. Tallulah is fed fr

Re: [Vo]:Initial Criticality

2023-03-08 Thread Terry Blanton
I actually ran N Ga Hydro during the strike of 1981. The 12 MW generators online since WW1 have never been replaced. They are, however, well maintained. The six units were to provide sufficient electricity for Atlanta until the new millennium. :⁠-⁠) On Wed, Mar 8, 2023, 8:11 PM Jed Rothwell wr

Re: [Vo]:Initial Criticality

2023-03-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robin wrote: > When electric cars become more common, they can contribute to grid > storage, allowing higher percentages of renewable > energy sources. > This also reduces CO2 from the transport sector. > Yup. There has been a lot of talk about that in the media lately. I think there may be a p

Re: [Vo]:Initial Criticality

2023-03-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: > 2. In most parts of the U.S. where solar is widely used and most needed, > such as Nevada, solar does not need storage. It peaks right when demand is > highest. > HOWEVER, it turns out that a lot of battery storage these days is being used with solar, co-located. I did not know that.

Re: [Vo]:Initial Criticality

2023-03-08 Thread Robin
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 8 Mar 2023 19:41:19 -0500: Hi, [snip] >Both wind and solar would become more expensive if they exceeded ~60% of >capacity, because they would need extensive storage, rather than the >occasional use of standby gas turbine or Diesel generators. I think ~60%

Re: [Vo]:Initial Criticality

2023-03-08 Thread Terry Blanton
Solar panels life span is less than 20 yrs On Wed, Mar 8, 2023, 7:41 PM Jed Rothwell wrote: > H L V wrote: > > >> those costs don't include energy storage. >> > > True. But: 1. The cost of storage is falling rapidly. 2. In most parts of > the U.S. where solar is widely used and most needed, suc

Re: [Vo]:Initial Criticality

2023-03-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
H L V wrote: > those costs don't include energy storage. > True. But: 1. The cost of storage is falling rapidly. 2. In most parts of the U.S. where solar is widely used and most needed, such as Nevada, solar does not need storage. It peaks right when demand is highest. Especially for air condit

Re: [Vo]:Initial Criticality

2023-03-08 Thread H L V
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 5:46 PM Jed Rothwell wrote: > Terry Blanton wrote: > > Never saw a nuke that came in on schedule and under budget. But 80 years >> of close to 2 GW will charge lots of EVs. >> > > True. But for the same amount of money we could have bought ~11 GW of > solar panels, which

Re: [Vo]:Initial Criticality

2023-03-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: Never saw a nuke that came in on schedule and under budget. But 80 years > of close to 2 GW will charge lots of EVs. > True. But for the same amount of money we could have bought ~11 GW of solar panels, which would have charged a lot more EVs. See: https://www.lazard.com/m

Re: [Vo]:Initial Criticality

2023-03-08 Thread Terry Blanton
Never saw a nuke that came in on schedule and under budget. But 80 years of close to 2 GW will charge lots of EVs. On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 9:24 AM Jed Rothwell wrote: > The nuclear plant in Georgia is way late and over budget. See: > > In Georgia, Bloated Costs Take Over a Nuclear Power Plant an

Re: [Vo]:Initial Criticality

2023-03-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
The nuclear plant in Georgia is way late and over budget. See: In Georgia, Bloated Costs Take Over a Nuclear Power Plant and a Fight Looms Over Who Pays "Vogtle’s two new nuclear reactors are six years late and at least $16 billion over their original budget. The plant will have no direct carbon