Solar panels life span is less than 20 yrs

On Wed, Mar 8, 2023, 7:41 PM Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> H L V <hveeder...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> those costs don't include energy storage.
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> True. But: 1. The cost of storage is falling rapidly. 2. In most parts of
> the U.S. where solar is widely used and most needed, such as Nevada, solar
> does not need storage. It peaks right when demand is highest. Especially
> for air conditioning in summer.
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> The power companies would not be installing solar as 46% of new capacity
> if it were not the cheapest source of electricity, including storage. Solar
> is not subsidized much. The Lazard numbers do not include subsidies.
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> Storage is a problem with wind.
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> Both wind and solar would become more expensive if they exceeded ~60% of
> capacity, because they would need extensive storage, rather than the
> occasional use of standby gas turbine or Diesel generators. I think ~60% is
> what they say now. Iowa gets 57% of its electricity from wind, but they may
> be on a network sharing it with other states. Not sure.
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> In most places nuclear power would not be economical if it were 60%. That
> is more than people use at night. So what do the French do with their nukes
> at night? Apparently they use pumped storage. See:
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> https://www.laka.org/nieuws/2022/so-how-flexible-is-nuclear-power-in-france-now-really-17421
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