Re: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question.

2007-02-02 Thread Michel Jullian
> From: "Terry Blanton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:34 PM > Subject: Re: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question. > > >> On 2/1/07, Stiffler Scientific <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> This is my last

Re: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question.

2007-02-02 Thread Michel Jullian
ns control their pollution. More... http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/world/4520802.html -- Michel - Original Message - From: "Terry Blanton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical questio

Re: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question.

2007-02-02 Thread Terry Blanton
On 2/1/07, John Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jed, you strike me as the perfect person to have a crack at this.. Jed addresses this in his book: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJcoldfusiona.pdf Terry

Re: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question.

2007-02-02 Thread Terry Blanton
On 2/1/07, Stiffler Scientific <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is my last comment on this thread as I for sure live in a different world than the rest of you. Wanna bet? :-) PV's Oh yes if you want a 35 year recover, unless you will settle for 10-20% energy offset which can be wiped out in 2

Re: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question.

2007-02-01 Thread Harry Veeder
John Berry wrote: Still no one has really answered the whole question, which is basically what would happen to this world where it currently is if it was suddenly given technology which is at a level seen in Star Trek? Depends what you mean by "suddenly". Over night, over years, over decades? Th

Re: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question.

2007-02-01 Thread Harry Veeder
StifflerScientific wrote: > Harry! > > Where do you live anyway, and do you have more than a 100W light? :-) > > Here in Humble TX, during the summer I pay on average $320 per month for AC > when I keep the temp at 77' with new 13 SEER AC units and solar screens, > roof ridge vents, electric att

Re: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question.

2007-02-01 Thread Michel Jullian
Another problem which comes to mind is that they don't work :) Michel - Original Message - From: "Terry Blanton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:14 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question. > On 2/1/07, Harry

Re: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question.

2007-02-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John Berry wrote: > Still no one has really answered the whole question, which is basically what > would happen to this world where it currently is if it was suddenly given > technology which is at a level seen in Star Trek? I already answered. Change equals pain, or energy depending how you

Re: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question.

2007-02-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
StifflerScientific wrote: >>> Hogwash! You left out one major aspect; goodness will prevail in the >>> long run. The government you speak of will one day be replaced with >>> something wonderful. You're looking at an uprising in people against >>> controlling governments. The people cannot be en

Re: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question.

2007-02-01 Thread John Berry
On 2/2/07, Stiffler Scientific <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is my last comment on this thread as I for sure live in a different world than the rest of you. Move. Plus I just don't see New Zealand taxing people based on the power they would have used if connected to the grid.

RE: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question.

2007-02-01 Thread Stiffler Scientific
ROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 6:14 PM > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question. > > > On 2/1/07, Harry Veeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > FE won't eliminate the energy grid. > > But

Re: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question.

2007-02-01 Thread John Berry
Still no one has really answered the whole question, which is basically what would happen to this world where it currently is if it was suddenly given technology which is at a level seen in Star Trek? Would it be likely to play out well or poorly? And what could be done to ensure it's more good t

Re: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question.

2007-02-01 Thread Terry Blanton
On 2/1/07, Harry Veeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: FE won't eliminate the energy grid. But it will change how we use the energy grid. PVs are already doing it. That is what lead to the safety cutout device to prevent reverse feeding the grid. The problem with the Magnetic Motors that I know

Re: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question.

2007-02-01 Thread John Berry
will all come together, then I want what you are smokin :-) No disrespect ment, but what is the basis of you idea that sometning is close after all these thousands of years?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 5:32 PM To:

Re: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question.

2007-02-01 Thread Harry Veeder
ee 50hp X 746 = 3.73E4 or 37,300 watts nice if it could run a > genset at 100%/ 24/7? Nice, but show me its real and you could avoid the > politicians. > >> -Original Message- >> From: Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Thursday, February 01

RE: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question.

2007-02-01 Thread StifflerScientific
PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 5:42 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question. I think this also resolves Stiffler's concern about government losing tons of tax revenue. If you remain connected, that $60 you get back from the pow

Re: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question.

2007-02-01 Thread Harry Veeder
I think this also resolves Stiffler's concern about government losing tons of tax revenue. If you remain connected, that $60 you get back from the power company can be taxed by the government. Harry Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. wrote: > > Rather than taking off the grid, put power back into the grid

RE: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question.

2007-02-01 Thread StifflerScientific
at sometning is close after all these thousands of years?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 5:32 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question. John Berry wrote: > Ok, let's say th

RE: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question.

2007-02-01 Thread Rhong Dhong
"Hoyt A. Stearns Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Rather than taking off the grid, put power back into the grid. I think the cost would be much less. Get a 50 HP Steorn motor (and I now think I understand how it works, and it's simple). For God's sake, man, tell us the details!

Re: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question.

2007-02-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John Berry wrote: > Ok, let's say that one of us (I haven't BTW) finds out how to crack this > Free Energy nut. > And Antigravity, and Healing/Rejuvenation. > > By discovering a new branch of physics which makes the things above and more > easily doable. > Obviously like any technology it could

Re: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question.

2007-02-01 Thread John Berry
r. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:52 PM > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Subject: RE: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question. > > > > Rather than taking off the grid, put power back into the grid. > > I think the cost would be much less. G

RE: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question.

2007-02-01 Thread Stiffler Scientific
rom: Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:52 PM > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Subject: RE: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question. > > > > Rather than taking off the grid, put power back into the grid. > > I think the

RE: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question.

2007-02-01 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
Rather than taking off the grid, put power back into the grid. I think the cost would be much less. Get a 50 HP Steorn motor (and I now think I understand how it works, and it's simple), and drive a cheap surplus 50 HP induction motor above synchronous speed (induction generator). Your power met

RE: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question.

2007-02-01 Thread Stiffler Scientific
day, February 01, 2007 3:56 PM To: vortex-L@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question. Ok, let's say that one of us (I haven't BTW) finds out how to crack this Free Energy nut. And Antigravity, and Healing/Rejuvenation. By discovering a new branch of

Re: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question.

2007-02-01 Thread John Berry
Yes, obviously it depends on the subtleties of such a device. If Joe Blogs can put one together for $100 and have it generate all the power he needs at the right voltage & freq that's a very different equation. I am interested in the issue of selling energy back to the grid, please elaborate on w

Re: [Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question.

2007-02-01 Thread Terry Blanton
On 2/1/07, John Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, let's say that one of us (I haven't BTW) finds out how to crack this Free Energy nut. There are still economics associated with FE. Let's suppose I can generate FE of 2 kW continuous. Can I take my home off grid? The average home has a pea

[Vo]: Now what? An important theoretical question.

2007-02-01 Thread John Berry
Ok, let's say that one of us (I haven't BTW) finds out how to crack this Free Energy nut. And Antigravity, and Healing/Rejuvenation. By discovering a new branch of physics which makes the things above and more easily doable. Obviously like any technology it could be misused too. So what would yo