Re: [Vo]:Ethanol Al

2008-04-29 Thread Nick Palmer
MF wrote:- I think you guys missed my point. Whether you like it or not, mass media reporters, politicians, and amateur environmentalists *are* the environmental movement in the mind of the public. Their clownish antics will eventually discredit serious environmental efforts Ah! I see what

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2008-04-29 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Nick Palmer's message of Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:14:01 +0100: Hi, [snip] The sad fact is that serious environmental efforts quietly applied behind the scenes are just ignored by the forces we have to contend with who just hire very smart, very well paid, but morally bankrupt people who

Re: [Vo]:Ethanol Al

2008-04-28 Thread Nick Palmer
Michael Foster sez: Just for the record, now that they are all running for cover and ducking the tough questions, those so-called enviromentalists and global warming twinkies who initially promoted biofuels need to be held accountable. They won't, of course, since they'll be responsible for the

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2008-04-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
I concur with Nick Palmer. I do not now of any knowledgeable environmental scientists in favor of ethanol. Some amateur environmentalists and politicians favor it. Most mass media reporters and editorial writers were in favor of it until a few months ago, but as Truman said of the 50 most

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2008-04-28 Thread Michael Foster
Jed wrote: I concur with Nick Palmer. I do not now of any knowledgeable environmental scientists in favor of ethanol. Some amateur environmentalists and politicians favor it. Most mass media reporters and editorial writers were in favor of it until a few months ago, but as Truman

Re: [Vo]:Ethanol Al

2008-04-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Michael Foster wrote: I think you guys missed my point. Whether you like it or not, mass media reporters, politicians, and amateur environmentalists *are* the environmental movement in the mind of the public. I don't like it, but what can I do about it? Thanks to the mass media, the public

Re: [Vo]:Ethanol Al

2008-04-27 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 6:24 PM, OrionWorks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not all are ducking There is absolutely nothing wrong with making ethanol from corn. Our forefathers certainly did it. They were not so foolish as to use it for transportation, however. Terry Alcohol and driving don't

[Vo]:Ethanol Al

2008-04-26 Thread Michael Foster
Just for the record, now that they are all running for cover and ducking the tough questions, those so-called enviromentalists and global warming twinkies who initially promoted biofuels need to be held accountable. They won't, of course, since they'll be responsible for the death of hundreds

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2008-04-26 Thread OrionWorks
Michael Foster sez: Just for the record, now that they are all running for cover and ducking the tough questions, those so-called enviromentalists and global warming twinkies who initially promoted biofuels need to be held accountable. They won't, of course, since they'll be responsible for

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2008-04-26 Thread leaking pen
The simple thing is, if acreage is used to generate fuel that WASNT being used to generate food, you can not count it as, well we could make food here instead. That is short sited and beside the point. On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 4:24 PM, OrionWorks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Foster sez: