Such collected ions as Robin describes are most likely to be attracted to
plates that would provide a net neutralization of the electret. In other
words, this ion current from the air would be a leakage path for the
electret and not a benefactor. Such ion current leakage exists, yet
electrets
In reply to Bob Higgins's message of Tue, 26 Jan 2016 08:19:32 -0700:
Hi,
>Such collected ions as Robin describes are most likely to be attracted to
>plates that would provide a net neutralization of the electret.
I agree.
>In other
>words, this ion current from the air would be a leakage
: Re: [Vo]:Fact or fiction: Irish firm invents everlasting battery
In reply to Bob Higgins's message of Tue, 26 Jan 2016 08:19:32 -0700:
Hi,
>Such collected ions as Robin describes are most likely to be attracted to
>plates that would provide a net neutralization of the electret.
I agree.
>I
In reply to Che's message of Mon, 25 Jan 2016 23:36:37 -0500:
Hi,
I would guess that the Lithium battery is probably the most temperature
sensitive component, though the maximum might also be determined by the
electronics.
>On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 11:27 PM, Eric Walker
judging from how "well" iPhones perform over here in Finland, about
-15celsius is when stuff starts breaking down and refuses to hold a charge.
On 26 January 2016 at 06:36, Che wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 11:27 PM, Eric Walker
>
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Mon, 25 Jan 2016 22:27:53 -0600:
Hi,
>Hi Robin,
>
>I understand you to be suggesting that ions in the air might restore the
>state of the Orbo by removing electrons from one plate through
>de-ionization.
...and also adding them to the other plate. When an
Hi Robin,
I understand you to be suggesting that ions in the air might restore the
state of the Orbo by removing electrons from one plate through
de-ionization. An ion comes along and picks up an electron, becoming
electrically neutral and restoring the original potential by a small amount.
On
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 11:27 PM, Eric Walker wrote:
> Hi Robin,
>
> I understand you to be suggesting that ions in the air might restore the
> state of the Orbo by removing electrons from one plate through
> de-ionization. An ion comes along and picks up an electron,
It might depend on thermal gradients.
Harry
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:31 PM, Esa Ruoho wrote:
> Harry, they've stated that it will work inside a Faraday cage, so it's not
> an energy-harvester using RF as power-source, like the ADGEX ELFE and the
> forthcoming ADGEX Tachyon
Quite a few people on the web have ordered these and will give them a
whirl. Including a few Finns who are taking them to an university and
having scientists look at them.
It looks like this is really progressing and we will definitely know within
the next 3 months whether there's anything in
This new Orbo product is reputed to employ "electrets" - a material that
retains a dialectric charge for hundreds years - which is the electric
equivalent of a permanent magnet. A lot of research is being done on
electrets for use in energy harvesting, so this time Steorn may be
marketing a
Mary Yugo has been after all OU from the very first day Steorn came to our
attention.
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 12:31 PM, H Veeder wrote:
> Fact or fiction: Irish firm invents everlasting battery
>
> Is Steorn’s Orbo technology a non-polluting, supercheap source of power –
Harry, they've stated that it will work inside a Faraday cage, so it's not
an energy-harvester using RF as power-source, like the ADGEX ELFE and the
forthcoming ADGEX Tachyon products will be.
So we'll see.
That leaked investor-video contained this nugget:
"Shaun showed the internal components
A kinder, gentler hatchet-job.
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 12:31 PM, H Veeder wrote:
> Fact or fiction: Irish firm invents everlasting battery
>
> Is Steorn’s Orbo technology a non-polluting, supercheap source of power –
> or a delusion ?
>
> (article and video)
>
>
>
Fact or fiction: Irish firm invents everlasting battery
Is Steorn’s Orbo technology a non-polluting, supercheap source of power –
or a delusion ?
(article and video)
http://www.irishtimes.com/business/fact-or-fiction-irish-firm-invents-everlasting-battery-1.2506832
Harry
Electrets have been made for hundreds of years. These electrets, if
shorted, and then opened will have the charge return and a high electric
field will once again be present. In the shorting, charge was conducted
from one plate to another, so work was done. Electrets are odd devices.
Electrets
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 6:27 PM, Bob Higgins
wrote:
Electrets have been made for hundreds of years. These electrets, if
> shorted, and then opened will have the charge return and a high electric
> field will once again be present. In the shorting, charge was conducted
They have likened to The effect in The Orbo-powergenerator to be Piezoelectric
in nature. Feels to me like it is hearing something and transforming it into
droplets that it spews forth and that are Directed into The Lithium-Ion battery.
Sent from some iDevice. Written by Esa.
> Eric Walker
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Esa Ruoho wrote:
Quite a few people on the web have ordered these and will give them a
> whirl. Including a few Finns who are taking them to an university and
> having scientists look at them.
>
This is the way to deal with any claim from an
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Esa Ruoho wrote:
The result is that a permanent electric field is "frozen" into the gel
> material, with positive and negative poles. This polarized electric field
> then interacts with the two dissimilar metals to generate an electric
>
4-5 years ago there was a lot of activity on the alternative energy forums
concerning the “CapTret” which combines features of electret and capacitor to
extend the life of a battery. It does work.
http://jnaudin.free.fr/captret/index.htm
http://open-source-energy.org/?topic=1637.0
The
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Mon, 25 Jan 2016 18:07:58 -0600:
Hi,
Here's a guess on where the energy might be coming from. Sunlight ionizes atoms
in the atmosphere. Many of these do not recombine immediately, because dry air
is a poor conductor. Suppose that the electret collected and
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