Re: [Vo]:If Rossi could speak freely, what would he say.

2011-04-27 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
OK, nit time. On 04/26/2011 06:29 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: You can compare a flow calorimeter to a balance weight scale. Such scales have been in use since ancient times. They have utterly transparent operation. No expert can fool one. No expert could have fooled one used in Edo Japan in the

Re: [Vo]:If Rossi could speak freely, what would he say.

2011-04-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote: transparent operation. No expert can fool one. No expert could have fooled one used in Edo Japan in the marketplace, or in ancient Egypt. Certainly they could. A balance is only as good as the weights you use with it. Using false weights was, in

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:If Rossi could speak freely, what would he say.

2011-04-27 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Axil wrote As an engineering imperative, I have a feeling that Rossi decided to centralize control of the reactor in the control box where he can adjust or shut off control power as required. Axil, That is what Pulse Width Modulation [PWM] does - In fact zero ON time is a valid pulse width for a

Re: [Vo]:If Rossi could speak freely, what would he say.

2011-04-26 Thread Axil Axil
*“How confident are you about the tungsten vs nichrome question for element material? is SiC another reasonable possibility? Or is it too dangerous to have any C around?”* * * I have no confidence at all. The construction of the internal heater/cathode is the most intricate and problematic part

Re: [Vo]:If Rossi could speak freely, what would he say.

2011-04-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
As to the question in the subject header, we don't know, without knowing the secrets he's keeping, whether his real reasons are legitimate or not. As I wrote from the beginning on this, there is no limit to human ingenuity, so fraud cannot be ruled out except by the normal process: truly

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:If Rossi could speak freely, what would he say.

2011-04-26 Thread Axil Axil
:* Monday, April 25, 2011 6:58 AM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:If Rossi could speak freely, what would he say. Thanks for this post Axil, i have some comments and questions below... On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 05:25, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [Vo]:If Rossi could speak freely, what would he say.

2011-04-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: As I wrote from the beginning on this, there is no limit to human ingenuity, so fraud cannot be ruled out except by the normal process: truly independent examination and probably replication. There is another way to rule out fraud. You can

Re: [Vo]:If Rossi could speak freely, what would he say.

2011-04-26 Thread Axil Axil
The engineering game is a difficult place to set up a successful fraud; having said that, con-men are most often the smartest men in the room. They enter banking, the board room, the stock market, hedge funds, the money management industry, The SEC regulators, or even the Federal Reserve. As

Re: [Vo]:If Rossi could speak freely, what would he say.

2011-04-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The engineering game is a difficult place to set up a successful fraud; having said that, con-men are most often the smartest men in the room. McKubre is brilliant and he has 22 years of experience working with flow calorimetry, but he could not devise a

Re: [Vo]:If Rossi could speak freely, what would he say.

2011-04-26 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The engineering game is a difficult place to set up a successful fraud; having said that, con-men are most often the smartest men in the room. Enron http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1016268/ The Smartest Guys in the Room was

Re: [Vo]:If Rossi could speak freely, what would he say.

2011-04-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: Levi, Essen et al. are convinced the machine is real because they understand that there are only a few limited ways to fake a reaction of this nature, and they are certain they have checked all such ways. I wasn't there, so that leaves me all-but-certain. I can't imagine a

Re: [Vo]:If Rossi could speak freely, what would he say.

2011-04-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
Here are some Edo-period hanging marketplace weight scales: http://www4.airnet.ne.jp/sakura/hakari/hakari_fr07.html They are ingenious and perhaps more complicated than you might think. I have seen people use them in recent times. Naturally there were ways to hide weights in these things to

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:If Rossi could speak freely, what would he say.

2011-04-26 Thread francis
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 13:14 Axil wrote Control of the Rossi reaction is a complicated thing. The energy density pumping mechanism you site may be only one mechanism of many that play into the complicated interplay of many factors in which the Cat-E might be controlled. Reply --Agreed and it

Re: [Vo]:If Rossi could speak freely, what would he say.

2011-04-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:46 PM 4/26/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: There is another way to rule out fraud. You can allow experts examine the machine closely and look for the physical equipment needed to commit fraud, such as hidden wires and pipes. Rossi has done this. There is only a vanishingly small chance that a

Re: [Vo]:If Rossi could speak freely, what would he say.

2011-04-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 05:31 PM 4/26/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: McKubre is brilliant and he has 22 years of experience working with flow calorimetry, but he could not devise a method of faking a result with a flow calorimeter that I would not spot in the first five minutes. I mean that. I know you mean it, but I

Re: [Vo]:If Rossi could speak freely, what would he say.

2011-04-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 06:29 PM 4/26/2011, you wrote: If it turns out Levi is really, really stupid then I can imagine some ways Rossi could commit a fraud. For example, if Levi shows up and Rossi gives him the power meter, thermocouples and other equipment and insists he use that equipment only, not his own, it

Re: [Vo]:If Rossi could speak freely, what would he say.

2011-04-25 Thread .:.gotjosh
Thanks for this post Axil, i have some comments and questions below... On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 05:25, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: * * *“With temperature above the set the reactor is automatically stopped”* * * *It the temperature continues to rise above another set point, the

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:If Rossi could speak freely, what would he say.

2011-04-25 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 6:58 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:If Rossi could speak freely, what would he say. Thanks for this post Axil, i have some comments and questions below... On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 05:25, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.commailto:janap...@gmail.com wrote

[Vo]:If Rossi could speak freely, what would he say.

2011-04-23 Thread Axil Axil
*From Rossi QA April 21, 2011* * * *[quote]Q: What happens if by some defect the E-Cat during operation is not longer cooled by the water sourrounding it? How much would the temperature of the metal rise? Will the nuclear reaction stop due to high temperatures or will it be enhanced? In this