Bob Higgins wrote:
I sent a copy of my translation of Songsheng Jiang's paper to him for
> review. He found a couple of typos and a couple other small things to
> revise. . . .
>
Thanks again!
- Jed
I sent a copy of my translation of Songsheng Jiang's paper to him for
review. He found a couple of typos and a couple other small things to
revise. So, I have made the changes and here is the revision 1 of Dr.
Jiang's paper for your records.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5Pc25a4cOM2X1F6TjJ1
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
> -Original Message-
> From: H LV
>
>> The 'self-sustaining' phase that follows represents the release of energy
>> which was being stored while the power was on.
>
> Harry - If you are talking about Fig2 - the May run, that conclusion is
Calorimetry, external TC's and OT for internal temps would provide a fuller
picture. K-type TC's typically contain nickel so have a low Curie point
and are often only rated up to 185°C anyway. I also suspect they may be
susceptible to photoelectric induction since what they actually sense is
EMF,
-Original Message-
From: H LV
> The 'self-sustaining' phase that follows represents the release of energy
> which was being stored while the power was on.
Harry - If you are talking about Fig2 - the May run, that conclusion is not
supported by the facts, since --- when the power was tu
(about 2nd november experiment, fig3)
When I look at T4, at pressure, compared to input power, it seems there is
something weird happening.
does anybody know what causes the increase of pressure just when power is
slightly stepped ? about 14:00-14:15...
I suspect it is just heat ? since all other
>From Jiang's paper (courtesy Bob Higgins translation):
"How could T1 and T2 temperatures differ by so much? This is because
thermocouple T1 is in
the atmosphere, and is easily equilibrated to room temperature. T2 is
located in a sealed stainless
steel vessel, and the gas inside the vessel is at a
H LV wrote:
> > http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/japan-population/
>
> Median age of 53 by 2050?!
>
Yup. It is 47 now. The trends for the next 20 years are demographically
irreversible. People could start having babies like mad and the population
would still fall, with the overhang
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Vibrator ! wrote:
Can't help thinking optical thermometry would be preferable since it's
> impervious to heat damage... assuming the steel currently used for
> chambers is entirely incidental to the reaction, a transparent ceramic
> would would allow direct obser
Wow! How many languages do you know?
harry
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 9:08 PM, Bob Higgins wrote:
> I was interested enough in Dr. Jiang's latest paper that I went to the
> trouble to do a proper translation from Chinese to English. Google
> translate just wasn't good enough. If you read through t
T3 is not connected.
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Jack Cole wrote:
>
> T1 is in an air gap apparently. Possibly that could make more sense.
>>
>
> Let's see . . . You mean it is installed in the middle of the "T-Bone"
> shaped reactor, in the air gap between the react
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 9:47 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Bob Higgins wrote:
>
>> I was interested enough in Dr. Jiang's latest paper that I went to the
>> trouble to do a proper translation from Chinese to English.
>
>
> That's very helpful. Thank you!
>
> I did not know you speak Chinese. I suppos
Perhaps a Fisher polyneutron would reveal itself in a 'beta shower' that the
NaI instrument would see.
From: Ludwik Kowalski [mailto:kowals...@mail.montclair.edu]
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 7:03 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:New paper from Jiang in Chinese
His 'alpha' showers seem to be about the same number of events as the recent
MFMP Bremstrahlung.
From: Ludwik Kowalski [mailto:kowals...@mail.montclair.edu]
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 7:03 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:New paper from Jiang in Chinese
I am no
t;
> From: Ludwik Kowalski [mailto:kowals...@mail.montclair.edu]
> Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 6:38 PM
> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:New paper from Jiang in Chinese
>
>
> I suppose that at least one member of the Chinese Team
> is following this
Ludwik, What's your opinion of Fisher's polyneutrons these days?
From: Ludwik Kowalski [mailto:kowals...@mail.montclair.edu]
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 6:38 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:New paper from Jiang in Chinese
I suppose that at least one member of t
[mailto:rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 6:09 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:New paper from Jiang in Chinese
I was interested enough in Dr. Jiang's latest paper that I went to the trouble
to do a proper translation from Chinese to English. Google translate just
w
Bob Higgins wrote:
I was interested enough in Dr. Jiang's latest paper that I went to the
> trouble to do a proper translation from Chinese to English.
>
That's very helpful. Thank you!
I did not know you speak Chinese. I suppose that is more in demand in the
21st century than Japanese. I shoul
H LV wrote:
> Ok, but if there was so much more heat being produced in the reactor
> why is T1 dropping so quickly while T4 is gradually rising?
>
Well, there was that last burst of internal heat, ~24 minutes long, shown
by T1 and T2. I suppose that threw the system out of equilibrium. The
surf
I suppose that at least one member of the Chinese Team
is following this thread. If not then perhaps someone will be willing to send
them an invitation. It would be useful to be able to ask questions.
Ludwik
===
Ludwik Kowalski.
On Feb 29, 2016
Thank you very very much, to both you, Jed, and others.
Ludwik
=
On Feb 29, 2016, at 9:08 PM, Bob Higgins wrote:
> I was interested enough in Dr. Jiang's latest paper that I went to the
> trouble to do a proper translation from Chinese to English. Googl
I was interested enough in Dr. Jiang's latest paper that I went to the
trouble to do a proper translation from Chinese to English. Google
translate just wasn't good enough. If you read through the Google
translate version, you skip over things that Google didn't translate well
enough - and in fac
hing is surely lethal so just look into the lab and count the number of
>> dead grad students lying on the floor, any number greater than 0 means a
>> dramatic nuclear process in hand :(
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: H LV [mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com]
>
er...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 5:15 PM
> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:New paper from Jiang in Chinese
>
> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
>> H LV wrote:
>>
>>> Notice the delayed rise in T4 at the beginning o
eater than 0 means a dramatic nuclear
process in hand :(
-Original Message-
From: H LV [mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 5:15 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:New paper from Jiang in Chinese
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> H
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> H LV wrote:
>
>> Notice the delayed rise in T4 at the beginning of the experiment. The
>>
>> rise in T4 after power is turned off might just be the delayed
>> dissipation of heat from inside to the outside.
>
>
> I do not think so. Look close
Calorimetry's the last word of course, and yes the data from the external
TC's is exciting. My point about optical thermometry though was that it's
possible to have a window into the reactor (using transparent ceramics) and
so read the internal light... no doubt Rossi or others have already trie
Sorry for my last comment; I was thought I were commenting on VORTEX's earlier
post.
On Feb 29, 2016, at 5:55 PM, Ludwik Kowalski wrote:
> 1) Suppose a wish list is composed, containing suggested technological
> innovations for Artificial Intelligence (AI) robots. Would such a list be
> useful
Jack Cole wrote:
T1 is in an air gap apparently. Possibly that could make more sense.
>
Let's see . . . You mean it is installed in the middle of the "T-Bone"
shaped reactor, in the air gap between the reactor and the "DC Power"
heaters (shown in orange). I guess it is touching the reactor.
Th
Vibrator ! wrote:
Can't help thinking optical thermometry would be preferable since it's
> impervious to heat damage...
>
But you can't use it for the inside thermocouples, and the outside one (T4)
is at moderate temperatures peaking at 167°C. There is no way that
temperature could cause damage.
T1 is in an air gap apparently. Possibly that could make more sense.
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 4:49 PM Jack Cole wrote:
> Jed, I thought the same when looking at the graphs. It doesn't make much
> sense. He needs to get some better control over the input power to keep
> from burning up his TCs.
1) Suppose a wish list is composed, containing suggested technological
innovations for Artificial Intelligence (AI) robots. Would such a list be
useful to leaders of technology?
2) My first wish would be a computer operating system (OS) which allows for at
least three hundreds of "human undo s
Can't help thinking optical thermometry would be preferable since it's
impervious to heat damage... assuming the steel currently used for
chambers is entirely incidental to the reaction, a transparent ceramic
would would allow direct observation - if not for the whole chamber, then
at least a via
Jed, I thought the same when looking at the graphs. It doesn't make much
sense. He needs to get some better control over the input power to keep
from burning up his TCs.
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 4:13 PM Jed Rothwell wrote:
> H LV wrote:
>
> Notice the delayed rise in T4 at the beginning of the
H LV wrote:
Notice the delayed rise in T4 at the beginning of the experiment. The
rise in T4 after power is turned off might just be the delayed
> dissipation of heat from inside to the outside.
>
I do not think so. Look closely as the power is being reduced, at around
time 14:00, shortly befor
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
>for the second run, shows a similar pattern, with T1 falling
> steadily and monotonically after the power is turned off, while T2 goes
> bananas. However, this graph also shows T4 increasing after the power turns
> off. T4 is mounted on the o
I wrote:
Figure 2, for the second run, shows a similar pattern . . .
>
ARRRGGH! I meant *Figure 3* for the second run.
I wish I could fix these messages.
Fig. 1. Configuration
Fig. 2. First run, showing T1 and T2 readings. But not T4.
Fig. 3. Second run, showing T1, T2 and T4.
I wish he had sh
I wrote:
> Thermocouple T2 on the outside of the cell does not show self-sustaining
> anomalous heat after power is turned off. It falls smoothly and
> monotonically.
>
Oops. I meant T1 on the outside of the cell, sandwiched between the cell
and the the MgO thermal insulation material. It does f
I am sorry to say this, but it looks to me like Jiang had the same problem
this time as last time. The T2 thermocouple in the center of the cell
overheated. It exceeded the 1372°C limit for that device. It probably did
this early in the experiment on May 4. After that it is erratic, and I do
not tr
The long period of self-sustained heat is exactly what everyone wants to see.
This is what we were hoping to see from MFMP, due to all the buildup. Perhaps
it will happen this time for Alan and Mark.
From: Jed Rothwell
See:
https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.php/Attachment/52
See:
https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.php/Attachment/520-20160301-125433238-pdf/?s=3a03aad919292f429f6fa5106e356d459314aa42
The abstract is in English, and Google translate does a pretty good job of
translating the whole paper. Go to:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=zh-CN&tl=en&j
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