RE: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

... https://www.alzinfo.org/articles/senile-dementia/ - Impaired judgment; Sometimes childish behavior. From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 12:18 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat H LV <hveeder...@gmail.

Re: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

An insight from an insider Robert E. Godes It is important to read between the lines. I suspect one of the most important statements is "any claims made about technologies in our portfolio should only be relied upon if affirmed by Industrial Heat and

Re: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

H LV wrote: > I posses a device that has an effective COP of infinity. > Can I have a million dollars to bring Candle Power to the world? > Only if it produces a million times more energy per gram of fuel than any chemical reaction, with no chemical changes and no

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On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Lennart Thornros wrote: > The COP is a canard. It is of no importance at this stage in the research. > Worrying about the COP now is like fretting about the need for retractable > landing gear on

Re: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

One of the most interesting things to me about IH is that they don't seem to have exclusivity with Rossi. They are free to license technologies from other companies, and are thus free to be objective in the evaluation and presentation of these technologies. Their ship does not sink if Rossi's

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It seems so; Rossi said this today on the JONP: Andrea Rossi March 11, 2016 at 1:57 PM Sebastian: Yes, obviously, as everybody knows, Industrial Heat has the license to manufacture the E-Cats in its Territory. Warm Regards, A.R. On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Axil Axil

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Response to Jed. If the COP is less than one, I guess it will be VERY difficult to get funding for future development. Us with the limited imagination can hardly come to a decision to invest in new technology that hold no promises. Unfortunately, the type of education / experience people have is

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Sebastian March 11, 2016 at 1:46 PM Dear Andrea, You said that Leonardo Corp will not be the only one manufacturing E-Cats. Does that mean that one of your licensees will be manufacturing them? Regards Andrea Rossi March 11, 2016 at 1:57 PM Sebastian: Yes, obviously, as everybody knows,

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In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:51:52 -0500: Hi, [snip] >Does IH have manufacturing rights to the E-cat? What technology does >IH have the rights to? Where does IH get the fuel for the reactors >that they build. Can IH produce the fuel? Does Leonardo supply wafers >to IH?

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Does IH have manufacturing rights to the E-cat? What technology does IH have the rights to? Where does IH get the fuel for the reactors that they build. Can IH produce the fuel? Does Leonardo supply wafers to IH? Is Leonardo the only company that can manufacture the E Cat? Does anybody know the

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Lennart Thornros wrote: I think I said that the engineering will happen over many years to come. > I guess a COP of 0.02 would be like an Otto motor and not [too] attractive. > I would compare it to seeing a charged electric wire deflect a magnet in 1820, and from there

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In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:11:02 -0500: Hi, [snip] >One possibility is that Rossi is doing something that rankles IH, and >IH does not like it one bit. It goes like this: IH was all set to sell >the 1 MW plant, but Rossi discovered a better LENR tech. Rossi decides >to

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Hello Jed, I think I said that the engineering will happen over many years to come. I guess a COP of 0.02 would be like an Otto motor and not to attractive. It's better be over 1. I think well above so the inconsistencies which will be determined by 'scientists' with a better measuring technology

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I think they are just doing a cover your ass statement to their investors, knowing that Rossi is about to release his results and they want to make sure that their investors know that the information is not coming from official IH sources just in case there is a problem a bit further down

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Lennart Thornros wrote: It is possible that the outcome, of Rossi's year long test, has less COP > than what for example Peter Gluck has heard. > If the IH statement is too calm down the expectations then so be it. > I would say that as long as the test shows a COP better

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It is possible that the outcome, of Rossi's year long test, has less COP than what for example Peter Gluck has heard. If the IH statement is too calm down the expectations then so be it. I would say that as long as the test shows a COP better than 2, there will be further investment and a lot of

Re: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

Hydrofusion wrote: New Investments Tom Darden, CEO of Industrial Heat, signed a cooperation agreement with a newly created strategic financial center in Beijing. The “Technology Ministry of Science and Innovation Park” will participate in technology transfer with 20 companies from the U.S. This

Re: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

One possibility is that Rossi is doing something that rankles IH, and IH does not like it one bit. It goes like this: IH was all set to sell the 1 MW plant, but Rossi discovered a better LENR tech. Rossi decides to go with the new tech that requires more time to perfect. IH now must keep their

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Peter Gluck wrote: > Ok, they want a bit more discipline- but have you idea what viable LENR > technology they could have beyond Rossi's ? > I wouldn't know about other technology. Based on the Lugano report, I do not think Rossi's technology is viable. I have not seen

RE: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

-Original Message- From: Harry If there is no "excess heat" but still something useful like the conversion of heat into electricity or light, Industrial Heat will have to undergo a name change... Maybe Industrial Light and Magic? ;-) LOL ... maybe it's all been a carefully

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Ok, they want a bit more discipline- but have you idea what viable LENR technology they could have beyond Rossi's ? We will see itoday if IH will reject Krivit's idea that they are divorcing from Rossi Rossi has rejected it clearly. Peter On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Jed Rothwell

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If there is no "excess heat" but still something useful like the conversion of heat into electricity or light, Industrial Heat will have to undergo a name change. Maybe Industrial Light and Magic? ;-) Harry On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 10:44 AM, Peter Gluck wrote: > Too

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Peter Gluck wrote: Too unclear and this has allowed Krivit to publish his variant of the > story- IH- Rossi divorce. > I agree the statement as a whole is somewhat unclear, but this part is easy to understand. It says that if Rossi publishes a report independent of

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Too unclear and this has allowed Krivit to publish his variant of the story- IH- Rossi divorce. Peter On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Craig Haynie wrote: > > Reading between the lines... Does it sound like they're

[Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

Craig Haynie wrote: Reading between the lines... Does it sound like they're preparing us for > a negative report on Rossi's one year test? > It does sound that way. The statement is oblique, but clearly it is intended to reduce excitement and dial back people's

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I read it rather like Axil. That is to say no matter that the regular E-Cat 1 MW plant performed successfully the E-Cat X is the future and the statement was to prepare us for further delays. Industrial Heat have been keen on a long term demo before going to market and this probably means a

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out that fact. > > > > From: Lennart Thornros [mailto:lenn...@thornros.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 11:32 AM > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat > > > > I think you are right Russ. However, I do not thing that rumors by

RE: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

...@thornros.com] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 11:32 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat I think you are right Russ. However, I do not thing that rumors by 'fans' or negative statements (a la Ahern) has any impact on IH's statements. I read the statement

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room or not. > Neither Rossi nor Darden are that naïve. Meow! > > > > > > *From:* Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:32 AM > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject:* [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat > > > > [Marianne

RE: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

-Original Message- From: Craig Haynie > Reading between the lines... Does it sound like they're preparing us for a > negative report on Rossi's one year test? Yes

RE: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

2 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat [Marianne Macy asked me to post this] The following statement has been released from Industrial Heat for Infinite Energy Magazine today, March 10, 2016. —Marianne Macy Statement of Industrial Heat Regarding

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Reading between the lines... Does it sound like they're preparing us for a negative report on Rossi's one year test? Craig On Thu, 2016-03-10 at 11:32 -0500, Jed Rothwell wrote: > [Marianne Macy asked me to post this] > > > The following statement has been released from Industrial Heat for >

[Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

[Marianne Macy asked me to post this] The following statement has been released from Industrial Heat for Infinite Energy Magazine today, March 10, 2016. —Marianne Macy Statement of Industrial Heat Regarding LENR Industry Developments March 10, 2016 Industrial Heat’s objective is to make