This is not a repeat of the suggestion that dense hydrogen is the same
species as "dark matter" ... but there is a good case for that proposition.
It is about "dark" as in evil. If there is a foreseeable downside to
LENR, it is the possibility of weaponization. Not just that - it is the
easy w
Jones Beene wrote:
> In the past, observers of the LENR scene - who delve into almost every
> remote possibility for anomalous energy - have not wanted to talk about the
> possibility of a cold-fusion bomb.
People have talked about this from time to time, albeit reluctantly. Martin
Fleischmann
Edward Teller! For goodness sake.
- Jed
side of dense hydrogen
Edward Teller! For goodness sake.
- Jed
The explosive potential of the cold fusion reaction is centered on the
percentage of energy that is produce by the LENR reaction in the various
energy releases format.
By energy formats I mean the place where the output energy goes such as sub
atomic particle production, heat, light, and/or RF.
I
ological
skills to manage it. That there is a perfect linkage/control in effect due
to the commonly known chemical/thermal properties of matter is very well
established.
From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 8:44 AM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:T
good progress in developing technological skills to manage it. That there
> is a perfect linkage/control in effect due to the commonly known
> chemical/thermal properties of matter is very well established.
>
>
>
> *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wedne
the
P&F description of the reaction as cold fusion was accurate.
Bob Cook
from: Russ George
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 10:19 AM
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Conflating nuclear chain reaction energy release with cold fusion mechanism
Russ George wrote:
Conflating nuclear chain reaction energy release with cold fusion
> mechanisms is what leads to silly speculation, aka trolling, over
> weaponization of cold fusion. It is the far reaching neutron chain reaction
> process that is common to fission/fusion weapons that makes them
:40 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen
I brought up the issue of weaponization of LENR in the panel session at
ILENR-12. The general consensus was, "the cat is out of the bag"; I.E. too
late for that concern.
I think the real concern for weapon
Whoa - an observer must possess a great deal of blind hope to imagine
that weaponization of LENR is impossible simply because neutrons are
lacking. In fact, dense hydrogen is physically similar to the neutron.
Most importantly, the number of documented runaway LENR reactions makes
the stat
Whoa indeed, nanoseconds are way to slow for fission!
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 1:14 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
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Whoa - an observer must possess a great deal of blind hope to imagine
The real problem with LENR is the LENR reaction's preference for the even
isotopes U238, U232 of the odd isotopes. That make LENR a transuranic
element enrichment risk.
>From my reference:
" It was found that the activity of both U isotopes decreased with respect
to that of Cs. However, the acti
Cold fusion is a piss poor cousin in the enrichment game with fissionable
species to paths with abundant neutrons.
From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 1:55 PM
To: vortex-l
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The real problem with
Russ George wrote:
Whoa indeed, nanoseconds are way to slow for fission!
So what? Who needs fission when you can achieve complete nuclear
disintegration - as Holmlid claims to do with a small laser.
With fission of U, the energy release per nucleon is in the range of
200MeV. With laser i
The detonation of a fission device includes the compression of the pit to
1/3 of its original volume. This compression is done using systemic
explosives shockwaves. There is also neutron reflectors/amplifiers involved
to keep neutrons inside the pit.
In LENR, by their very nature, the lack of con
On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Bob Higgins
wrote:
I think the real concern for weaponization is not the first thought
> everyone jumps to, which is explosive magnifier.
>
In addition to the possibilities that have been mentioned, there is another
that comes to mind should at some point LENR be
Eric Walker wrote:
> In addition to the possibilities that have been mentioned, there is
> another that comes to mind should at some point LENR be harnessed as a
> practical source of energy. Consider small, quiet drones the size of
> hummingbirds, which are able to linger in an area for months
The Rothwellian theme (available on Kindle) which on closer examination
perhaps is pre-Orwellian, can be called "the democratization of energy"
... but to the contrarian, it would explain an arcane detail which is
troubling on several levels. ET can't call home.
First I will give Jed a plug.
Jones Beene wrote:
> First I will give Jed a plug. This download to Kindle could be the best
> buck you spend this year, even if you do not appreciate my contrarian
> response to it:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Cold-Fusion-Future-Jed-Rothwell-
> ebook/dp/B001RTSHZS/
>
That is out of date. Read the
Well
Given the new realities of 2017 - I suggest that you remove the free
edition, but re-kindle it with info on Rossigate and the "dark side"
thread, charge $9.99 and call it the *Special**Trump edition for a Brave
New World.*
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Jones Beene wrote:
First I wil
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 4 Jan 2017 13:14:21 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
>Even if neutrons were required for the most energetic kind of
>weaponization, dense hydrogen is similar enough to the neutron that it
>could substitute -- and in the case of Holmlid - exceed by orders of
>magnitude
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 5 Jan 2017 08:16:05 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
>... estimate that there should be many advanced civilizations in the
>Universe, a few of whom are close enough that we should be able to
>communicate with them or at least catch glimpses of their broadcast
>signal
Even more probable is the evolution to spread spectrum techniques. Look at
what has happened to a lot of our emissions - they have moved to spread
spectrum. This would no longer be detectable as an emission type that is
detectable by SETI technology. We may migrate largely to a communications
te
wrote:
> There is another possibility, i.e. that the reason for the short window is
> not
> self destruction, but rather that they discover FTL communication
> techniques,
> and stop broadcasting using EMF.
>
Here are my hypotheses:
1. Data broadcast by people in RF and light fiber is getting
Bob Higgins wrote:
Even more probable is the evolution to spread spectrum techniques. Look at
> what has happened to a lot of our emissions - they have moved to spread
> spectrum. This would no longer be detectable as an emission type that is
> detectable by SETI technology.
>
That is a variat
Our experience seems to marginalize the relevance of "noise" quip - at
least in the case of SETI. It all goes back to the starting assumptions.
Of course SETI operates under the assumption that ET wants to contact
us, as opposed to us wanting to eavesdrop on them. We can reasonably
assume that
On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 8:24 PM, Bob Higgins
wrote:
There is a more far fetched possibility - that of communications via
> gravitational waves. There have been a number of papers talking about the
> conversion of EM waves into gravitational waves in certain types of
> superconductors. If that ev
conclusion as am I.
Alas both Tom and Jean Pierre are passed but their ideas and wisdom have not.
From: Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2017 8:55 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen
On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 8:24 PM, Bob
staunch supporter of his conclusion as am I.
Alas both Tom and Jean Pierre are passed but their ideas and wisdom have not.
From: Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2017 8:55 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
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On Thu, Jan
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