Re: [Vo]:well, steorn have launched

2009-02-06 Thread thomas malloy
Terry Blanton wrote: I am still suspicious of Alsetalokin's video. I think I know why Steorn thinks they have found a time variant anomaly. If I am right they are going to be upset. I have to do a little research first. You can come can come up with all sorts of creative explanations for

Re: [Vo]:well, steorn have launched

2009-02-06 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy Steven, Figures never lie, but liars figure.. Sum'buddy dun spent sum real money on salaries..like E 350k just in year 2006..for the two principals. From Wikipenis..( where whats in your pants count for more than your head) The company's investment history shows share allotments

Re: [Vo]:well, steorn have launched

2009-02-06 Thread Terry Blanton
I am still suspicious of Alsetalokin's video. I think I know why Steorn thinks they have found a time variant anomaly. If I am right they are going to be upset. I have to do a little research first. Terry On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 4:26 PM, OrionWorks wrote: > OrionWorks sez: > >> BTW, this claim

Re: [Vo]:well, steorn have launched

2009-02-06 Thread mixent
In reply to Harvey Norris's message of Thu, 5 Feb 2009 23:43:58 -0800 (PST): Hi Harvey, [snip] If you really are getting excess power in the frequency range of zero to a few hundred Hz, especially with a ground connection, then it's just possible you are "tuning in" to a cyclotron frequency of the

Re: [Vo]:well, steorn have launched

2009-02-05 Thread Harvey Norris
--- On Thu, 2/5/09, OrionWorks wrote: > From: OrionWorks > Subject: Re: [Vo]:well, steorn have launched > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 4:26 PM > OrionWorks sez: > > > BTW, this claim strikes me as possibly explaining the > weird

Re: [Vo]:well, steorn have launched

2009-02-05 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > Would it be more accurate to say magnetic force is velocity variant > instead of time variant? Yes, same same. Terry

Re: [Vo]:well, steorn have launched

2009-02-05 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message - From: Terry Blanton Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009 10:41 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:well, steorn have launched > Yeah, what MJ said: neodymium. I misspelled it. > > Well, after many nights of cogitation, I think I finally understand > what Steorn is sa

Re: [Vo]:well, steorn have launched

2009-02-05 Thread OrionWorks
OrionWorks sez: > BTW, this claim strikes me as possibly explaining the weird > SPRAIN anomaly. Even stranger, I gather no one has been able > to successfully replicate the effect. Oops! Too many junior senior moments. I did not mean to associate "SPRAIN" with this anomaly. I meant the magnetic c

Re: [Vo]:well, steorn have launched

2009-02-05 Thread OrionWorks
Terry, ... > Steorn says that the energy expended to separate magnets varies > with the time you spend doing the separating. I believe this > would be a violation of the laws of thermo. IOW, Steorn seems to be claiming: At certain ranges of rotor/stator RPMs (frequencies) the faster the magnet

Re: [Vo]:well, steorn have launched

2009-02-05 Thread Terry Blanton
Hysteresis is a function of remanence (how much magnetism is "remembered") of a material and has no time function. Once magnetized, material will remain magnetized until an opposing field is supplied (or the material is shocked or heated beyone it's Curie temp). Viscosity is a function of the rat

Re: [Vo]:well, steorn have launched

2009-02-05 Thread OrionWorks
OrionWorks sez: ... > The wiki graphics unfortunately doesn't make it clear to me how > the hysteresis effect might be considered "fast in, and slow out." > The graphics shows the realignment effect going in "fast". But then > on the outtake the force seems to be released just as quickly. I > don

Re: [Vo]:well, steorn have launched

2009-02-05 Thread OrionWorks
>From Terry, > ... Their claim is that magnetic force is time variant. > This is a remarkable claim. You previously mention that the variation is "...fast in, slow out". Looking at a typical magnetic hysteresis graphic, like at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hysteresis (See: the two Magnetic hy

Re: [Vo]:well, steorn have launched

2009-02-05 Thread Terry Blanton
Yeah, what MJ said: neodymium. I misspelled it. Well, after many nights of cogitation, I think I finally understand what Steorn is saying. Their claim is that magnetic force is time variant. This is a remarkable claim. Energy is force applied over a distance and is time invariant. It doesn't

Re: [Vo]:well, steorn have launched

2009-02-05 Thread Michel Jullian
Funny, neodymium does too ;-) 2009/2/5 OrionWorks : > Terry sez: > >>> Invest in niobium mining, young man! > >> Neodymnium? > > Neodymnium! Neodymnium! Neodymnium! Neodymnium! > > BTW, neodymnium does not come up on my google gmail spell checker as a > legitimate word! Niobium does!

Re: [Vo]:well, steorn have launched

2009-02-05 Thread OrionWorks
Terry sez: >> Invest in niobium mining, young man! > Neodymnium? Neodymnium! Neodymnium! Neodymnium! Neodymnium! BTW, neodymnium does not come up on my google gmail spell checker as a legitimate word! Niobium does! > Anyway, I think I finally understand how "magnetic viscosity" provides > an u

Re: [Vo]:well, steorn have launched

2009-02-05 Thread OrionWorks
Hi Thomas, OrionWorks wrote: > The first hurdle is making the machine self powering, however, > there is a higher hurdle, economic feasibility. IMHO, there > are better technologies than magnetic motors. I respectfully disagree on a specific point. Assuming the technology is legitimate, there ma

Re: [Vo]:well, steorn have launched

2009-02-04 Thread thomas malloy
OrionWorks wrote: Steorn strikes me as a fascinating and potentially tragic enigma. . I continue to hope, perhaps irrationally, that Steorn will still be able to interest a sufficient number of scientists and engineers into looking into the technology, now that the company promises to be a tad

Re: [Vo]:well, steorn have launched

2009-02-04 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 5:24 PM, OrionWorks wrote: > Invest in niobium mining, young man! Neodymnium? Anyway, I think I finally understand how "magnetic viscosity" provides an unbalanced energy equation. It's "fast in, slow out". Can you make a magmo with it? Dunno. Experimenting. I underst

Re: [Vo]:well, steorn have launched

2009-02-04 Thread OrionWorks
Steorn strikes me as a fascinating and potentially tragic enigma. Like, Scully, will I ever know the truth? Who wouldn't want to believe in the possibility of a free energy magnetic motor configuration based (as I understand it) on the manipulation of permanent magnets. It would seem logical to a

Re: [Vo]:well, steorn have launched

2009-02-04 Thread Esa Ruoho
well, heres a claim innit? How Orbo Works Orbo is based upon time variant magnetic interactions, i.e. magnetic interactions whose efficiency varies as a function of transaction timeframes. It is this variation of energy exchanged as a function of transaction time frame that lies at the heart of

Re: [Vo]:well, steorn have launched

2009-02-04 Thread Harry Veeder
Ruoho Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 11:51 am Subject: [Vo]:well, steorn have launched > http://www.steorn.com/ > > seems like they also have released two new measurement devices, > usb hall > probe, and magnetic torque measurement system. > > migh

Re: [Vo]:well, steorn have launched

2009-02-04 Thread Horace Heffner
On Feb 4, 2009, at 11:24 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: They are also claiming passive magnetic bearings. Terry Maybe they don't understand Earshaw's Theorem? Or maybe using superconductors (which also requires power.) See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earnshaw%27s_theorem OTOH, it is well

Re: [Vo]:well, steorn have launched

2009-02-04 Thread Terry Blanton
They are also claiming passive magnetic bearings. Terry On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Esa Ruoho wrote: > http://www.steorn.com/ > > seems like they also have released two new measurement devices, usb hall > probe, and magnetic torque measurement system. > > might be worth looking through > >

[Vo]:well, steorn have launched

2009-02-04 Thread Esa Ruoho
http://www.steorn.com/ seems like they also have released two new measurement devices, usb hall probe, and magnetic torque measurement system. might be worth looking through -- -- https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=2963259Donate via PayPal http://www.equaldre