> From: "Mike Carrell"
> As I previously noted, many legends swirl around the Templars
Swirl?
Thanks to bringing all back on-topic.
I'll try to annoy you less in the future.
From: "Terry Blanton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT Re: July 4
> > From: "Mike Carrell"
>
> > Knights Templar? European provincial politics by comparison. No nation
in
> > Europe remotely had the capability that the Chinese did at the height
> From: "Mike Carrell"
> Knights Templar? European provincial politics by comparison. No nation in
> Europe remotely had the capability that the Chinese did at the height of
> their weath and power.
The Templars commanded a huge fleet of ships. It is believed that the Jolly
Roger was flown by f
Mike Carrell wrote:
From: "Stephen A. Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT Re: July 4 (China)
Mike Carrell wrote:
In the early 1400s China was *the* great power and an immense fleet was
built and launched to map the world and bring it under the
actually, there IS evidence that he had seen such maps. he thought
them innacurate, and another side of china. hence his belief that he
could find a shorter trade route.
On 7/5/05, Stephen A. Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> Mike Carrell wrote:
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> >In the early 1400s China was *the*
From: "Terry Blanton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT Re: July 4
> > From: "Stephen A. Lawrence
>
> > Mike Carrell wrote:
> >
> > >In the early 1400s China was *the* great power and an immense fleet was
> > >built and laun
Terry wrote:
I wrote:
> > As for the "origins" of money. banking and control, that started in the
> > Mediterranean basin when the Phoenicians invented money, and probably
before
> > that in China when they invented paper money. There is nothing new at
all
> > about any of this, one group rises a
From: "Stephen A. Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT Re: July 4 (China)
>
>
> Mike Carrell wrote:
>
> >In the early 1400s China was *the* great power and an immense fleet was
> >built and launched to map the world and bring it under the Chinese
> From: "Stephen A. Lawrence
> Mike Carrell wrote:
>
> >In the early 1400s China was *the* great power and an immense fleet was
> >built and launched to map the world and bring it under the Chinese tribute
> >system. The world was mapped, and America discovered in 1421. Philip the
> >Navigator of
stephen, i work with mostly conservatives. those that would listen,
when having everything listed out, piece by piece, that the bush admin
did, were disgusted. i personnally got 10 people who had NEVER voted
dem to vote dem in 2004, and another 5 to withold a vote for bush. we
arent as divided a
> From: "Stephen A. Lawrence"
> I thought the Knights Templar were established to guard the royal family
> after Jesus (the rightful king) had been spirited out of Jerusalem and
> hidden in the south of France following his resurrection.
Uuuhh, no.
If you're really interested, here is a fairly
Mike Carrell wrote:
In the early 1400s China was *the* great power and an immense fleet was
built and launched to map the world and bring it under the Chinese tribute
system. The world was mapped, and America discovered in 1421. Philip the
Navigator of Portugal and Columbus had seen copies of
Terry Blanton wrote:
From: leaking pen
bushs america is not america.
You are absolutely correct. It is not clear that it is money which turns the
earth, presently lubricated by oil? Does everyone here really believe that it
matters which man holds the office of the presidency? Th
leaking pen wrote:
bushs america is not america. period. dont make that mistake again.
the bush admin is a cancer on the body of our country, and in
desperate need of incision.
Not that simple.
Surgery -- "incision" -- only works if the tumor hasn't metastasized.
Radiation treatment a
> From: "Mike Carrell"
> Curious: what is the allusion to the "dripping feather"? I'm well out of the
> loop on that one.
Only because you're not following the thread.
> As for the Templars, there are many legends woven about them, some
> interesting parts of that story can be found in "The Hir
Perfect response Terry, IMO.
Happy 4th !!
Had a great fireworks show here...
Joe
a.k.a "not uses account"
>
> You are absolutely correct. It is not clear that it
> is money which turns the earth, presently lubricated
> by oil? Does everyone here really believe that it
> matters which man hol
From: "Terry Blanton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT Re: July 4
> > From: "Mike Carrell"
>
> > -
> > Not *that* again! No doubt people conspire, it is endemic in *us* vs
*them*.
>
> Look to the origins of mone
> > From: "Mike Carrell"
>
> > -
> > Not *that* again! No doubt people conspire, it is endemic in *us* vs *them*.
>
> Look to the origins of
I am sorry for my ranting; however, I would advise anyone to avoid attacking me
or my country on this day. That said . . .
Who
> From: "RC Macaulay"
> I will pose a question to Terry.
> " Why have you treated us like this?
We expected more of you.
I pose a question to the "Citizens of Europe": when you called, is there one
of you who does not have the bodies of the citizens of the United States of
America fertilizi
to
fight Midian?"
But he answered them,
" What have I ( Gideon) accomplished compared to you? Aren't the gleaning
of Ehpraim's grapes better than the full grape harvest of Abiezer"?
-
From: "Terry Blanton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monda
> From: "Mike Carrell"
> -
> Not *that* again! No doubt people conspire, it is endemic in *us* vs *them*.
Look to the origins of money, banking, and control. Otherwise, considering
your well-reasoned responses, you would do well to avoid even listening to me.
Besides
From: "Terry Blanton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT Re: July 4
> > From: leaking pen
> >
> > bushs america is not america.
>
> You are absolutely correct. It is not clear that it is money which turns
the earth, presently lubricated by oil? D
> From: leaking pen
>
> bushs america is not america.
You are absolutely correct. It is not clear that it is money which turns the
earth, presently lubricated by oil? Does everyone here really believe that it
matters which man holds the office of the presidency? The world agenda is set
by
bushs america is not america. period. dont make that mistake again.
the bush admin is a cancer on the body of our country, and in
desperate need of incision.
On 7/4/05, Nick Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> RS Macaulay wrote:-
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> < the world. >>
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> <>
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> The trouble with many Am
From: Nick Palmer
Subject: OT Re: July 4
RS Macaulay wrote:-
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The trouble with many Americans is they have this "dream" of how America is.
The American constitution is indeed a fine piece of work but the reality of
how America behaves is that it is a bully, im
> From: "Nick Palmer"
> The trouble with many Americans is they have this "dream" of how America is.
Then you should have kept your colonies in line. It's all your fault. ;-)
traders hate us and fear us. They
apparently have little to fear from you.
Jeff
- Original Message -
From:
Nick
Palmer
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 5:01 AM
Subject: OT Re: July 4
RS Macaulay wrote:-
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<>
The
RS Macaulay wrote:-
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The trouble with many Americans is they have this
"dream" of how America is. The American constitution is indeed a fine piece
of work but the reality of how America behaves is that it is a bully, imposing
its view of the world wherever it sees fit to protect m
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