Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-10 Thread Axil Axil
When the lattice melts or vaporizes, the NAE stored in that portion of the lattice would according to Ed Storms theory would be removed from heat production, so the meltdown should be self limiting and terminat. In other words, when a proportion of the NAE is removed, then the LENR reaction should

Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil wrote: Why Peter Gluck is correct about in situ NAE production and Ed Storms is > wrong. The LENR reaction has produced meltdown conditions where all lattice > based NAE storage was destroyed and yet the LENR reactor continued to melt > through lab tables and concrete floors. > How do

Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-10 Thread Axil Axil
Why Peter Gluck is correct about in situ NAE production and Ed Storms is wrong. The LENR reaction has produced meltdown conditions where all lattice based NAE storage was destroyed and yet the LENR reactor continued to melt through lab tables and concrete floors. ERGO, the LENR reaction can exist

Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-10 Thread Axil Axil
ystem is conserved. > It may be that a strong magnetic is the coupling force that assures that > the angular momentum is conserved in the production of appropriate EM > radiation carrying angular momentum away from the remaining coherent system > before disintegration occurs. > > Bob Coo

Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-10 Thread David Roberson
vortex-l Sent: Fri, Feb 10, 2017 1:11 am Subject: RE: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway Dave— I think the reaction time for the mechanism you suggest if too long to explain the results of the “run-away” phenomena. It seems to me that an entire coherent system must chang

Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-10 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 11:41 PM, wrote: > Jones – > > > > Good questions and fair to midland conclusions. > http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/fair-to-middling.html Interesting; but, then again, I have always considered myself a cunning linguist. ;) Terry

Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-10 Thread Jones Beene
Bob Higgins wrote: The problem with the phonon is that its wavelength is extremely short. The attenuation coefficient for waves, in general, is typically quoted in dB/wavelength; and nature abhors a too small value for such a number. Come to think of it, isn't it arguable that wavelength en

Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-10 Thread Brian Ahern
DavidMy e-mail is: ahern_br...@msn.com From: David Roberson Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 9:01 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway Brian, The Manelas device is an interesting subject that I would

RE: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-09 Thread bobcook39923
momentum away from the remaining coherent system before disintegration occurs. Bob Cook From: David Roberson Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 6:01 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway Brian, The Manelas device is an interesting subject that I

RE: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-09 Thread bobcook39923
structure to come apart—vaporize—as indicated in the paragraph above. Bob Cook Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Axil Axil Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 1:35 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway LENR has been found to exist under laser

RE: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-09 Thread bobcook39923
Jones – Good questions and fair to midland conclusions. What was the nature of the reactants in each of the run-away reactions? --Pd-D, Ni-H, Li involved, Ti involved etc? Was the size of the likely coherent system in the various cases limited? Were sharply peaking resonance conditions like

Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-09 Thread David Roberson
: Brian Ahern To: vortex-l Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2017 6:40 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway David, I like your admission that we are brainstorming. I had several mentors in the last 20 years. One of them was Henry Kolm, Wayland MA. He was a co-founder of the

Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-09 Thread Axil Axil
Manelas energy output > with ferromagnetic ferrite cores is also fascinating and not understood by > anyone yet. > > > -- > *From:* David Roberson > *Sent:* Thursday, February 9, 2017 6:12 PM > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > > *Subject:* Re: [Vo

Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-09 Thread Brian Ahern
. From: David Roberson Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 6:12 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway Bob, When you mention the attenuation coefficient for waves I think it should be pointed out that the original

Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-09 Thread David Roberson
-Original Message- From: Bob Higgins To: vortex-l Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2017 3:37 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway The problem with the phonon is that its wavelength is extremely short. The attenuation coefficient for waves, in general, is

Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-09 Thread Axil Axil
LENR has been found to exist under laser irradiation of gold nanoparticles in a colloidal suspension of thorium salts. The nanoparticles are far to small to support any lattice vibration, but they can support subwavelength EMF. Initiation of nuclear reactions under laser irradiation of Au nanopar

Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-09 Thread Bob Higgins
The problem with the phonon is that its wavelength is extremely short. The attenuation coefficient for waves, in general, is typically quoted in dB/wavelength; and nature abhors a too small value for such a number. Hence you only have to propagate a limited number of wavelengths and the energy in