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2008-09-25 Thread OrionWorks
From Remi Cornwall: They're baaack part II. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7634641.stm Yes, yes, yes the megaphone of public office. Most of what they say is true. But guys, that's some fine silk you're wearing and you don't really need a cathedral to preach from as Christ did it

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2008-09-25 Thread Remi Cornwall
: 25 September 2008 15:09 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Do do do doo. Do do do doo... You appear to have stated there are few thinkers of any caliber worth having a discussion with on Vortex. You then state you're out of here, and end the threat with an unsuccessful attempt

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2008-09-25 Thread Edmund Storms
For those who have not been following the news and do not have a fixed opinion about the financial problems, let me add a bit of reality. The collapse of the mortgage market was the event that started the collapse but it was not the true cause. The big problem is the derivative market.

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2008-09-25 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 6:56 AM, Remi Cornwall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No more interest only mortgages You might be interested to know that the interest only loans originated in the UK in the 80s. AAMOF my wife, a home mortgage underwriter, actually refers to them as a LIBOR, which is

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2008-09-25 Thread Remi Cornwall
with itself self-flagellating and self loathing as your enemies want it. -Original Message- From: Edmund Storms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 September 2008 16:11 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: Re: [Vo]:Do do do doo. Do do do doo... For those who have not been

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2008-09-25 Thread OrionWorks
Sobering and provoking thoughts from Remi, Ed, and Terry. Gives me the shudders. I find it curious that the consumer credit card industry doesn't seem to have been mentioned in this mess, or perhaps I missed that aspect. Considering the huge credit card debt load that our population has

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2008-09-25 Thread Edmund Storms
On Sep 25, 2008, at 11:51 AM, OrionWorks wrote: Sobering and provoking thoughts from Remi, Ed, and Terry. Gives me the shudders. I find it curious that the consumer credit card industry doesn't seem to have been mentioned in this mess, or perhaps I missed that aspect. Considering the huge

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2008-09-25 Thread Remi Cornwall
, sports stars or movie stars that inherently have no value. Therein lies the problem of credit card applications dropping on the doormat. -Original Message- From: OrionWorks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 September 2008 18:52 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Do do do doo. Do

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2008-09-25 Thread Edmund Storms
that inherently have no value. Therein lies the problem of credit card applications dropping on the doormat. -Original Message- From: OrionWorks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 September 2008 18:52 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Do do do doo. Do do do doo... Sobering and provoking

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2008-09-25 Thread Remi Cornwall
gets it, it's a poisoned chalice... -Original Message- From: Edmund Storms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 September 2008 19:52 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: Re: [Vo]:Do do do doo. Do do do doo... Actually, credit is essential in an active economy. For example

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2008-09-25 Thread Mike Carrell
or movie stars that inherently have no value. Therein lies the problem of credit card applications dropping on the doormat. -Original Message- From: OrionWorks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 September 2008 18:52 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Do do do doo. Do do do doo

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2008-09-25 Thread Edmund Storms
of all kinds. Mike Carrell - Original Message - From: Edmund Storms [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Do do do doo. Do do do doo... Actually, credit is essential in an active economy

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2008-09-25 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Mike Carrell's message of Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:47:34 -0400: Hi, [snip] Fundmentally, it depends on energy, the energy of human intelligence, and the physical energy to do work of all kinds. [snip] ...and this is why a new source of essentially unlimited energy can lead to a golden age