Re: [Vo]:Orchestrated Objective Reduction

2020-06-13 Thread H LV
There are many ways to reduce the consumption of fossil fuels. Maybe I am just sentimental, but I think if we electrified everything life would be clean but sterile. Personally I think there is market for synthetic fuels (which have net zero carbon emissions), because the distribution system is

Re: [Vo]:Orchestrated Objective Reduction

2020-06-13 Thread Robin
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sat, 13 Jun 2020 13:51:39 -0400: Hi, >Oh, and I have been hoping for hydrogen hype for three decades now. So far >we are just as likely to have warp drive powered by di-lithium. Imagine the consequences of running into a pebble, or even a gas cloud, at

Re: [Vo]:Orchestrated Objective Reduction

2020-06-13 Thread Terry Blanton
For the record, Lazar's Corvette with hydride storage for the ICE engine. https://youtu.be/Ytg23mDd1a4 >

Re: [Vo]:Orchestrated Objective Reduction

2020-06-13 Thread Terry Blanton
Oh, and I have been hoping for hydrogen hype for three decades now. So far we are just as likely to have warp drive powered by di-lithium.

Re: [Vo]:Orchestrated Objective Reduction

2020-06-13 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
Fuel cell cars will run much farther the Li powered battery car as the tank in cargo vehicle has no real size limit. On the other side the Chinese leader in battery technology just announced a 90$ /kwh battery. This is a turning point where all electric cars become much cheaper than ordinary

Re: [Vo]:Orchestrated Objective Reduction

2020-06-13 Thread Terry Blanton
Hmmm, I guess my humor is unclear...you spelled 'Nikola' as 'Nicola'. However, I will give you partial credit for bringing the thread back on topic with your Orch OR analogue. On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 1:17 PM Jones Beene wrote: > Given the incredible track record of the guy - I would not want

Re: [Vo]:Orchestrated Objective Reduction

2020-06-13 Thread Jones Beene
Given the incredible track record of the guy - I would not want to be on the opposite side of any argument with Elon... and he is strongly critical of the potential of H2 in transportation. But that relates only to fuel cells and he is probably correct on that point. However, the one (huge)

Re: [Vo]:Orchestrated Objective Reduction

2020-06-13 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 11:08 AM Jones Beene wrote: > OK in a world where paper companies with much less to offer (Nicola Motors > for instance) can raise billions on a worthless IPO, then the sorry record > of Mills is not such a scandal. Just a major disappointment. > Back in the day, I would

Re: [Vo]:Orchestrated Objective Reduction

2020-06-13 Thread Jones Beene
bobcook39923 wrote: > “OBFUSCUTION” is the name of the game these days, I’m sorry to say.  The > Nordskies are no exception.   Well yes, but they (Norront) are not a University nor charitable organization. They are investing major private funds in the hopes of getting a good return. We

RE: [Vo]:Orchestrated Objective Reduction

2020-06-13 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
Jones--- “OBFUSCUTION” is the name of the game these days, I’m sorry to say. The Nordskies are no exception. Bob Cook From: Jones Beene<mailto:jone...@pacbell.net> Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 7:14 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:

Re: [Vo]:Orchestrated Objective Reduction

2020-06-03 Thread Jones Beene
Just to clarify - Norront is not exactly a hot fusion company. Their website gives that impression and it may be intentional. In one version they have licensed the discovery of Holmlid of an efficient way to produce muons. They have other processes as well - which look more like cold fusion.

Re: [Vo]:Orchestrated Objective Reduction

2020-06-03 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 5:33 PM Robin wrote: > In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 3 Jun 2020 20:30:34 + (UTC): > Hi Jones, > [snip] > > I think these guys are positioned to get to market ahead of anyone else > who is trying to commercialize dense hydrogen. > > >

Re: [Vo]:Orchestrated Objective Reduction

2020-06-03 Thread Robin
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 3 Jun 2020 20:30:34 + (UTC): Hi Jones, [snip] > I think these guys are positioned to get to market ahead of anyone else who > is trying to commercialize dense hydrogen. > >http://www.norrontfusion.com/ > I'm not so sure about that. The copyright on

Re: [Vo]:Orchestrated Objective Reduction

2020-06-03 Thread Jones Beene
I think these guys are positioned to get to market ahead of anyone else who is trying to commercialize dense hydrogen. http://www.norrontfusion.com/ Robin wrote: In reply to  Ken Deboer's message of Wed, 3 Jun 2020 11:04:44 -0600: Hi Ken, You might also want to check out this

Re: [Vo]:Orchestrated Objective Reduction

2020-06-03 Thread Robin
In reply to Ken Deboer's message of Wed, 3 Jun 2020 11:04:44 -0600: Hi Ken, You might also want to check out this site:- https://brilliantlightpower.com/ If this pans out it would supply humanity with energy for billions of years, as would CF. >I have an open-ended question for this group,

Re: [Vo]:Orchestrated Objective Reduction

2020-06-03 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
On 03.06.2020 19:04, Ken Deboer wrote: I have an open-ended question for this group, which I have great admiration for. I'm a biologist and am writing a book on, especially, the population problem. One of the chapters is on energy, mainly from the viewpoint of future energy sources. The only

Re: [Vo]:Orchestrated Objective Reduction

2020-06-03 Thread Terry Blanton
Just one word: Thorium. :) https://youtu.be/PSxihhBzCjk?t=32 On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 1:48 PM Bob Higgins wrote: > This would be a good question to pose to Jed Rothwell. Jed has > studied and written much about the energy landscape - history & present - > and probably has a lot to say about

Re: [Vo]:Orchestrated Objective Reduction

2020-06-03 Thread Bob Higgins
This would be a good question to pose to Jed Rothwell. Jed has studied and written much about the energy landscape - history & present - and probably has a lot to say about the future. He monitors this list. On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 11:05 AM Ken Deboer wrote: > I have an open-ended question for

Re: [Vo]:Orchestrated Objective Reduction

2020-06-03 Thread Ken Deboer
Natural Philosophy Association >> <http://anpa.onl/> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sunday, 31 May 2020, 16:17:39 BST, Terry Blanton >> wrote: >> >> >> I'll answer for Jonesie. >> >> It's a bit older than

Re: [Vo]:Orchestrated Objective Reduction

2020-05-31 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
n Sun, May 31, 2020 at 11:09 AM bobcook39...@hotmail.com wrote: Jones—   Is the  Fysics group you referenced the one that Allen Smith at LENR Forum organized?    Bob Cook   From: Jones Beene Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 10:53 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Orchestrated

Re: [Vo]:Orchestrated Objective Reduction

2020-05-31 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Orchestrated Objective Reduction   all the members of the "Fundamental Fysiks Group" [sic] reportedly merged into a single quantum entangled meme...     Terry Blanton wrote:   ...and what ever happened to Jack Sarfatti?  :)      

Re: [Vo]:Orchestrated Objective Reduction

2020-05-31 Thread Terry Blanton
n Smith at LENR Forum > organized? > > > > Bob Cook > > > > *From: *Jones Beene > *Sent: *Saturday, May 30, 2020 10:53 AM > *To: *vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:Orchestrated Objective Reduction > > > > all the members of the "Fundament

RE: [Vo]:Orchestrated Objective Reduction

2020-05-31 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
Jones— Is the Fysics group you referenced the one that Allen Smith at LENR Forum organized? Bob Cook From: Jones Beene<mailto:jone...@pacbell.net> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 10:53 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Orchestrated Objective Re

Re: [Vo]:Orchestrated Objective Reduction

2020-05-30 Thread Jones Beene
all the members of the "Fundamental Fysiks Group" [sic] reportedly merged into a single quantum entangled meme... Terry Blanton wrote: ...and what ever happened to Jack Sarfatti?  :)

Re: [Vo]:Orchestrated Objective Reduction

2020-05-30 Thread Terry Blanton
...and what ever happened to Jack Sarfatti? :) On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 12:56 PM Terry Blanton wrote: > But likely not... > https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1571064513001188 > from 2014. > > On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 12:54 PM Terry Blanton wrote: > >> Might have taken a hit..

Re: [Vo]:Orchestrated Objective Reduction

2020-05-30 Thread Terry Blanton
But likely not... https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1571064513001188from 2014. On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 12:54 PM Terry Blanton wrote: > Might have taken a hit.. > > Dr. Hameroff will be pleased. > > *Anesthesia's effect on consciousness solved, settling century-old >