On 02/21/2011 12:39 PM, Peter Gluck wrote:
In any case, a test as today's unofficial Bologna test (18 hours 15 KW)
Any documentation, or reports by witnesses? Any clear measurements
which give substance to the 15 kW number? Did anybody write it up?
I'm not sure what an official test would
On Feb 21, 2011, at 8:47 AM, Joshua Cude wrote:
So, we have someone who is not a scientist, who doesn't know that
the temperature of steam can exceed 100C at atmospheric pressure,
saying that vast majority of people who do science are not
scientists. But let's look at scientific progress
On 02/21/2011 01:28 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
On 02/21/2011 12:39 PM, Peter Gluck wrote:
In any case, a test as today's unofficial Bologna test (18 hours 15 KW)
Any documentation, or reports by witnesses? Any clear measurements
which give substance to the 15 kW number? Did
On 02/21/2011 01:33 PM, Horace Heffner wrote:
On Feb 21, 2011, at 8:47 AM, Joshua Cude wrote:
[a bunch of sneering jeers directed at Jed]
Here specifically is rule 2:
2. NO SNEERING. Ridicule, derision, scoffing, and ad-hominem is
banned. Pathological Skepticism is banned (see the
At 10:52 AM 2/21/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
This discussion has been about the Rossi work, which is based on a
secret process, and which is inadequately confirmed . . .
I think the confirmation is better than most
At 12:47 PM 2/21/2011, Joshua Cude wrote:
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Jed Rothwell
mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.comjedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Cude has added that he is not convinced that nuclear reactions in
cold fusion experiments have produced measurable heat. From my
point of view
Rich Murray wrote:
Since 1989...
No replication...
By independent groups...
By associated groups...
By the same group, on the scale of days, weeks, years...
By the same group with a single device, on the scale of days, weeks, years...
That's ridiculous. The bulk Pd-D experiment has been
On Feb 21, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Rich Murray wrote:
Rich, a floating shiny brown anomaly in the punch bowl
Agreement at last! 8^)
Best regards,
Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
On Feb 21, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
On 02/21/2011 01:33 PM, Horace Heffner wrote:
On Feb 21, 2011, at 8:47 AM, Joshua Cude wrote:
[a bunch of sneering jeers directed at Jed]
Here specifically is rule 2:
2. NO SNEERING. Ridicule, derision, scoffing, and ad-hominem
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.netwrote:
On Feb 21, 2011, at 8:47 AM, Joshua Cude wrote:
Your faith is irrelevant to the purpose, and as voiced above actually
contrary to the stated purpose, of this list.
Yes, I am aware that I do not belong here. I
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote:
At 10:33 AM 2/21/2011, Joshua Cude wrote:
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax mailto:
a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
So I'm going to ask, as to cold fusion in general, what
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
But Rossi is not a clear confirmation of any prior work, since we
don't know what's inside.
Sure he is. This is a confirmation of Piantelli and Focardi, and Mills
for that matter. We know approximately what is inside: finely divided Ni
and two other elements in
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote:
At 12:47 PM 2/21/2011, Joshua Cude wrote:
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Jed Rothwell mailto:
jedrothw...@gmail.comjedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Cude has added that he is not convinced that nuclear reactions
At 03:28 PM 2/21/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
But Rossi is not a clear confirmation of any prior work, since we
don't know what's inside.
Sure he is. This is a confirmation of Piantelli and Focardi, and
Mills for that matter. We know approximately what is inside:
At 01:41 PM 2/21/2011, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
I don't know about Joshua, but a report of an experiment with no details
given sure doesn't convince *me*, but maybe that makes me a pathological
skeptic, too, eh?
Of course not. That was hyperbole on Jed's part. He might be right,
if Joshua
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote:
If you examine what's being published, you don't find an attempt to prove
it's real, not lately, anyway. You find, in primary research, reports of
phenomena that imply reality, discussion of possible explanations
Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
Given that the experiments are working close to detection limits for helium,
a little cognitive bias could explain the correlation.
1. They were not close to the detection limit.
2. As Abd noted, they were blind tests. So it would not be cognitive
On 02/21/2011 03:28 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
This was a test without steam (with the Delta-T deliberately well
below those achieved last January 14).
That's what Celani was looking for. That's good.
Good? That's *great*! Is there a paper on it, either present or
forthcoming, I hope, I
At 03:01 PM 2/21/2011, Joshua Cude wrote:
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
At 10:33 AM 2/21/2011, Joshua Cude wrote:
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
I honestly do not understand much about economics or employment.
Accepted theories seem contradictory. For example, economists are
always telling us Americans need to save more, then when people save
more -- as they are doing now -- economists say we need to spend more
to stimulate the
...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:47 PM
To: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:what our post industrial society may look like
I wrote:
We will have to find a way to give everyone what they need and want with a
new kind of economy. Not communism, socialism or capitalism. All three
Mike Carrell wrote:
I spent an appreciable fraction of my career in
the early days of robotics with mechanization
and robotics applications at RCA. Naïve chatter
about human-less culture and artificial
intelligence overlooks fundamental things. 1]
brains are fundamentally different from
Mark Goldes wrote:
The Brooklyn Project: see www.aesopinstitute.com includes the statement:
That's dot-org, not dot-com. Direct link:
http://www.aesopinstitute.org/the-brooklyn-project.html
- Jed
I wrote:
We will have to find a way to give everyone what they need and want
with a new kind of economy. Not communism, socialism or capitalism.
All three are ways of allocating human labor, and they would be
equally unworkable in a world where human labor is useless.
I did not mean to
Subject: Re: [Vo]:what our post industrial society may look like
I wrote:
We will have to find a way to give everyone what they need and want with a new
kind of economy. Not communism, socialism or capitalism. All three are ways of
allocating human labor, and they would be equally unworkable
and Johnstown is becoming a town of old
people. I do see help wanted signs at, Lows, Panerra Bread, and Lonestar.
Frank Z
-Original Message-
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Aug 10, 2010 6:46 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:what our post
, 2010 8:18 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:what our post industrial society may look like
The Brooklyn Project: see www.aesopinstitute.com includes the statement: “the
current economic turmoil is lighting up the huge errors and abuses in the
financial system. Correcting these problems at their root could
I'm not suggesting any limit would apply to work you choose. Only to work you
do
not care to do.
From: fznidar...@aol.com fznidar...@aol.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 5:58:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:what our post industrial society may
Jones, what is a Mac job?
iPoni sent dis message. Esa Ruoho wrote it.
On 8 Aug 2010, at 18:57, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
From: fznidar...@aol.com
the end of Mac-jobs, and the end of despair for middle class youth who have
no real future.
From: Esa Ruoho
. what is a Mac job?
This is my misspelled version of the entry-level service job in the USA
usually in food service: i.e. McDonalds.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McJob
From: John Berry
.Ok, I'm missing something here, how does having robotic factories give
Jones Beene wrote:
The new paradigm for a factory job, and there can be tens of millions of
this type of job - will be to own, maintain, and supervise a handful of
industrial robots 24/7. We can give every worker a personal stake in this by
forcing business to give equity stakes to workers
From: fznidar...@aol.com
http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/careers/japans-economic-stagnation-is-crea
ting-a-nation-of-lost-youths/19580780/
This is scary, and sadly it is not unlike the way the USA is heading.
However, as an optimist I can see that Japan is poised to lead the way
I think this report is accurate. It is in line with reports in the Japanese
mass media. Perhaps it is too pessimistic. Mass media reports in both Japan
and the U.S. tend to be lurid and they generalize from anecdotal evidence.
- Jed
Ok, I'm missing something here, how does having robotic factories give
people jobs?
Oh wait, I know http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFR07vsnWjA
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 3:57 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
*From:* fznidar...@aol.com
Frank sez:
Don't look if it offends you. How did this happen?
http://cmex-ok.ru/video/1-ruFNzr7kk/QWxpZW5TY2llbnRpc3QgSW50ZXJ2aWV3IHdpdGgg
RnJhbmsgWm5pZGFyc2ljIFBhcnQgMiBvZiAy.html
Thanks, Frank!
As your interviewer states:
This is fascinating stuff, Frank!
Perhaps the Russian porn industry
::rolls eyes:: bad pun
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:28 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
Frank sez:
Don't look if it offends you. How did this happen?
http://cmex-ok.ru/video/1-ruFNzr7kk/QWxpZW5TY2llbnRpc3QgSW50ZXJ2aWV3IHdpdGgg
A better pun would have been, Well, they HAVE been specializing at
room temperature fusion for a long time.
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Alexander Hollins
alexander.holl...@gmail.com wrote:
::rolls eyes:: bad pun
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:28 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
On Oct 27, 2009, at 3:19 AM, Michel Jullian wrote:
What they demonstrate, IMHO, is that the SPAWAR pits occur:
1/ when the deposit is dendritic, not when it is spongy, and
Which, in view of large etching effects from minor scratching, places
into serious question any results in the
At 07:19 AM 10/27/2009, Michel Jullian wrote:
What they demonstrate, IMHO, is that the SPAWAR pits occur:
1/ when the deposit is dendritic, not when it is spongy, and
2/ when the CR-39 chip is in direct contact with the cathode wire, not
when a 6 micron mylar is interposed
Result 2/ does NOT
Twitter is broadcast texting using an intermediary server to relay
your cell phone text messages. It's limited to 140 characters per
message, or SMS (short message service) because it uses the data
channel your cell phone uses for signalling.
Although, due to 3G and now 4th Generation cell
err, computer, not phone, terminally.
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 7:38 AM, Alexander
Hollinsalexander.holl...@gmail.com wrote:
it is able to use cell phones, but its not just for cells. many if not
most twitterers do so from their phone.
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 6:58 AM, Terry
it is able to use cell phones, but its not just for cells. many if not
most twitterers do so from their phone.
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 6:58 AM, Terry Blantonhohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Twitter is broadcast texting using an intermediary server to relay
your cell phone text messages. It's limited
I have been invited by some cold fusion scientists to join them on
Twitter.
Why twitter? What is wrong with email?
Twitter is much more fluid and dynamic. You really have to try it to see the
difference. For instance, Kirsty Alley, the actress, has several thousand
followers on Twitter,
From Frank:
What actually comes out the stack when the scrubber is in use? (For
that matter, *is* there still a stack?)
nitrogen
Wow! Pretty neat trick!
I assume ammonia is being consumed sequestering the CO2. Is that a
correct assumption? Is ammonia also being pumped underground? I would
Oops. I sent that to the wrong address. However, anyone who would
like to help me untangle Mengoli is welcome to contact me. I will
send you a copy and you can try to figure this out.
- Jed
FYI, the Mike in that message is Mike Melich and the Mengoli paper
is excellent -- despite the confusing notation -- but I am not
allowed to upload it to LENR-CANR.org, because of copyright
restrictions. We do not have any Mengoli papers. It is a darn shame.
I am thinking of writing a review
Turns out that yellowcake was an integral part of the banking bomb that
brought the vaunted Lehman to its knees..
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103sid=aVgwamEW_98Irefer=news
Hmm. that was metaphorically another kind of 'critical mass' no?
IOW 'Leverage' seems to have its own
http://www.uraniumseek.com/news/UraniumSeek/1175092156.php
The uranium used in nuclear power plants comes in pellets. Typically,
a pellet of uranium weighs around seven grams or 0.24 ounces. This
pellet is capable of generating as much energy as three and a half
barrels of oil.
At $60 a barrel,
It's good but I can do better. I didn't feel the need to comment.
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 28 October 2008 21:57
To: vortex
Subject: [Vo]:What happend to our TEC expert?
There was a time, not to long ago, when Remi was somewhat of a resident
--- Edmund Storms wrote:
Jeff, I suggest you get a copy of my book The
Science of Low Energy Nuclear Reaction available from
World Scientific.
In addition to Ed's fine book, which is a treasure
trove of information - but assuming you want to stick
with protium - light water - instead of
Jeff, I suggest you get a copy of my book The Science of Low Energy
Nuclear Reaction available from World Scientific. I spent 6 months
providing an answer to your question, which is not worth repeating.
Ed
Jeff Driscoll wrote:
What are the best papers in cold fusion and what are the web
I say the probability of success is inversely proportional to the
hoopla. If you already have a genuine success you don't need the
hoopla.
Given the amount of hoopla the probability of a genuine success is
about nil. This will likely end up as yet another example of bad
science. What
Congratulations, Harry. You have discovered zero point energy
(negative temperature).
Terry
On 5/9/07, Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cold is normally conceived as a lack of heat or a lack of motion
in the case of the kinetic theory of heat. Modern science teaches
that cold is not a
With or without 1000 years of reserves, one can only assume that ultimate
control of a populace is imminent. Why? Because the information being given
out to the people is nothing but doom and gloom. Thinking the sky is falling
causes one to run for cover.
For one I have been sick and tired of the
thomas malloy wrote:
Over the past year we have discussed a number of areas which might
provide an unlimited source of pollution free energy. Among them are the
writings of Hal Puthoff, last week I posted a review of his paper on
EVO's . . .
These are worthy ideas, but speculative and
GreenFuel's president Dr. Isaac Berzin would also
agree that there is no overwhelming energy crisis -
but in a different sense.
Oy veh! the good doctor doesn't need to drastically
inflate petroleum reserves to imaginary levels to make
a point, but instead offers the following data on the
R Stiffler wrote:
For one I have been sick and tired of the _STUPID_ conservation mantra for many
years now. I can sweat thought a shirt a day and freeze my ass of in the winter
only to see my bill raise by (so far) 58% per year.
Isn't there something fundamentally wrong with what is
Yang's going strong, as far as I know...but flying way below the
radar.
Stringham's probably got something viable but I suspect he's trying to
negotiate his fair share of the bucket of gold.
I've heard no details from Energetics but they're a wildcard...they have
a large and dynamic team and
He was speaking to John Steck.
BAM is what one TV chef says when he kicks it up a notch by adding
spices to his recipes. See:
http://www.everythingemeril.com/emerilsbambq.html
Terry
On 7/19/06, john herman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Vo.,
On 7/19/06, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
john herman wrote:
Dear Vo.,
At a loss here. what is-are the site or sites? What address?
What is the response?
Thank you,
JH
On 7/2/06, thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I emailed Hal Puthoss the link to the ZPE Energy site which one of you
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