ehh, no, that one is fair. Some guys got caught fudging numbers. it
happens, sadly.
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Kevin O'Malley wrote:
>
> If it's all about science and scholarship then why did the IPCC get caught
>> fraudulently changing the data when it showed a c
Fraud is too strong a word. Last I heard, there was controversy about
including temps from the 1930's ( which were unusually high). Some people
would discard them as an outlier, others would include them entirely. I can
understand both opinions.
There are only "experts who understand what they are doing"
I would have more confidence if they could get the weather right more
often, which includes temperature and precipitation
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/long-term-weather-forecasts-are-a-long-way-from-accurate/2013
Kevin O'Malley wrote:
If it's all about science and scholarship then why did the IPCC get caught
> fraudulently changing the data when it showed a cooling trend?
>
That is nonsense. It resembles assertions that cold fusion researchers
committed fraud. There is no fraud in global warming or cold
If it's all about science and scholarship then why did the IPCC get caught
fraudulently changing the data when it showed a cooling trend? Because it
aint all about science & scholarship. There are added dimensions of
politics, human nature, fraud, culturalism, and bullshit in the global
warming t
Except, in all those cases, there are specific TIME FRAMES and LOCATIONS
tied to the theory. Failure to understand that is your problem. May I
suggest study and learning, instead of ridicule? You know, being a, dare I
say it, SCIENTIST AND SCHOLAR?
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Jojo Iznart
Andromeda Galaxy is 2 million light years away. Oh, that's a long time...
2014-08-21 14:01 GMT-03:00 Jojo Iznart :
>
> Global Warming alarmists do not realize that their theory is not
> falsifiable.
>
>
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
You forgot:
The coral reefs are dissolving due to global warming
The starfish are dissolving due to global warming
The crabs are disappearing due to global warming
Excessive algae blooms are due to global warming
The frogs are disappearing due to global warming
All animals are vanishing due to glo
I agree. I think once they find the other 95% energy in the universe they
will understand how F'd up they are
My theory explains what creates a cool breeze...
On Thursday, August 21, 2014, Jojo Iznart wrote:
> Global Warming is the only field in science that can get away with an
> "all-inclus
More vacuum in our atmosphere causes accelerated
"time" (aging/decaying) and colder weather because we are all getting
condensed by the vacuum. Too much vacuum = ice age.
On Thursday, August 21, 2014, Craig Haynie wrote:
> What I noticed is that last year we started to have a select number of
>
What I noticed is that last year we started to have a select number of
trees turn red and yellow, beginning in the first week of August. It was
unusual, and people were commenting on it in the newspapers, and on
television. Then we had the coldest winter since 1979.
This year, nothing.
Craig
Farmer's Almanac sez it's gonna be awful cold this winter
From: MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 10:53 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:global warming?
Maybe the neighborhood feline took c
Maybe the neighborhood feline took care of the problems?
-m
From: fznidar...@aol.com [mailto:fznidar...@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 2:43 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:global warming?
I noticed something last week. No more bird pew on my law chairs. The
robins ha
If the Federal government is elected with their money, it's like asking you
to kill your mother.
2013/9/11 Chris Zell
> **
> The Federal government needs to restrict money/lobbyists from foreign
> countries such as Israel, Saudi Arabia and more.
>
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
The problem with outside money is far greater than what happened with Walker.
The Federal government needs to restrict money/lobbyists from foreign countries
such as Israel, Saudi Arabia and more. This wrongful influence is why the US
is sent to war when it offers no benefit to the nation.
Try to imagine:
Politics without money.
2013/9/10 Eric Walker
> States should not allow funding to come in from other states. Here in
> California we see some really funny ballot propositions funded by people in
> other states, who are trying to influence politics here. Money is the
> source
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 5:39 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson <
orionwo...@charter.net> wrote:
Pro-Walker Outside-of-the-state financial campaign funds went
> obscenely through the roof in an effort to assure that their favorite
> conservative would remain in the seat.
>
I have no opinion
record is easy since there is an average increase of temperature since 200
years.
there is global warming since 1800. OK.
it was not anthropic until 1950 says IPCC... why not.
today it is flat... it was similarly flat around 1940 (and IPCC pretended
to understand why, ah ah), ok mean nothing, el
On 09/10/2013 08:39 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote:
> It's September 10 in Madison, Wisconsin, and the high for today is predicted
> to reach 92 degrees. It reached well over 90 degrees yesterday. Humid too.
>
> It's September, and we're experiencing July & August highs.
>
> I've liv
It's September 10 in Madison, Wisconsin, and the high for today is predicted
to reach 92 degrees. It reached well over 90 degrees yesterday. Humid too.
It's September, and we're experiencing July & August highs.
I've lived in Madison since 1967. I don't recall it being this hot so late
into Septe
Oil industry is not holly, this is why they fund such NGO.
The climate skeptic battle is not pushed by big corps, at most funded by
few rich individual and by some maverick politicians.
that does not remove the fact that beside the big money, the big political
battle between modern NGO and old po
As was I, or at least I meant to.
Gmail hides the quoted text and I was not careful enough to reply to the
right email.
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote:
> I was answering Alain.
>
>
> 2013/9/10 John Berry
>
>> The difference surely is the motive?
>>
>> Much of the money
I was answering Alain.
2013/9/10 John Berry
> The difference surely is the motive?
>
> Much of the money raised by Green Peace and WWF is donated by hard working
> individuals altruistically to protect the earth ans all life forms on it.
>
> Money donated by these groups is out of self inte
The difference surely is the motive?
Much of the money raised by Green Peace and WWF is donated by hard working
individuals altruistically to protect the earth ans all life forms on it.
Money donated by these groups is out of self interest to continue polluting
for profit.
If that seems the same
VS. Nearly 1 trillion on oil industries and expenses on defense!
2013/9/10 Alain Sepeda
> note that WWF+Greenpeace+(earth friend?) is worth 1Billion per year, plus
> benevolent and free journalists. You can add to that all the
> green-business, renewable energies, EU and UN research funding foc
note that WWF+Greenpeace+(earth friend?) is worth 1Billion per year, plus
benevolent and free journalists. You can add to that all the
green-business, renewable energies, EU and UN research funding focused now
on that (to a point it is ridiculous)...
I won't even be surprised if the guardian was n
On 03/31/2010 05:29 PM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote:
> Another speaker from Switzerland. Showed a picture of the top of
> Matterhorn. It broke off and slid down. The culprit, the melting of
> the permafrost due to global warming.
This happened in 2003, according to stories I saw when I googled
Another speaker from Switzerland. Showed a picture of the top of
Matterhorn. It broke off and slid
down. The culprit, the melting of the permafrost due to global warming.
Frank
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
>
> Since when are "leaked emails" a source of anything except noise?
>
> What reason is there for believing that a "leaked" email which supports
> the agenda of the one who "reveals" it is not a actually a *forged*
> email?
They are real. Quoting Eugene Robinson:
"Ph
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Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 5:56 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Global Warming
Jeff Fink wrote:
> THE GLOBAL WARMING SCAM
>
> 11-24-09
>
>
>
> There is interesting news as a result of leaked e-mails.
Since when are "leaked em
Jeff Fink wrote:
> THE GLOBAL WARMING SCAM
>
> 11-24-09
>
>
>
> There is interesting news as a result of leaked e-mails.
Since when are "leaked emails" a source of anything except noise?
What reason is there for believing that a "leaked" email which supports
the agenda of the one who "reve
mber 25, 2009 12:11 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Global Warming
>From Jeff Fink:
> THE GLOBAL WARMING SCAM
>
> There is interesting news as a result of leaked e-mails. It shows that
> the scientists who have been pushing the man made global warming
> age
>From Jeff Fink:
> THE GLOBAL WARMING SCAM
>
> There is interesting news as a result of leaked e-mails. It shows that the
> scientists who have been pushing the man made global warming agenda have
> been suppressing and altering data.
...
Speaking of "agendas", read:
"THE FAMILY, The Secret Fun
Jeff Fink wrote:
> There is interesting news as a result of leaked e-mails. It shows that the
> scientists who have been pushing the man made global warming agenda have
> been suppressing and altering data.
>
It shows that some of them have been doing this, to some extent, mainly in
ways that are
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Jeff Fink wrote:
> THE GLOBAL WARMING SCAM
>
> 11-24-09
>
>
>
> There is interesting news as a result of leaked e-mails.
Actually, I believe they were hacked.
Terry
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Subject: Re: [Vo]:global warming update
This "whole solar system is warming" idea (
http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=6892 ) comes from that well known
purveyor of entirely accurate information and mainstream science, Whitley
Strieber...
This "whole solar system is warming" idea (
http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=6892 ) comes from that well known
purveyor of entirely accurate information and mainstream science, Whitley
Strieber...
On Mar 1, 2008, at 6:20 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
Anecdotes about global warming are a waste of time-
especially to confront the naysayers - because there
will always be tales of record cold somewhere, with
which to balance out the picture ... and in the end,
almost everyone can believe in what se
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:-
>
The Forum wasn't specifically about this technology announcement - that
would have been just the icing on the cake of the much larger itinerary.
In reply to Nick Palmer's message of Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:10:33 -:
Hi,
[snip]
>Al Gore and co were allegedly going to announce a new technology at the
>Fortune Forum but nothing has surfaced so far.
>
>http://www.thedailygreen.com/environmental-news/latest/global-warming-47120308
What would b
Jed Rothwell wrote..
but that is a political problem, not scientific.
Howdy Jed,
A keen insight you have. Things happen in the world that most attribute to
conspiracy when they should be blamed on attitude. Given an opportunity, laws
of human nature demand actions be met with inaction of le
Philip Winestone wrote:
>Pathological scepticism is not the same as deliberately lying to cover up
>meaningful results.
That is true. But in the case of the NHE and Toyota, I sense that the decision
makers do not believe the results, so they lie about them. I think that is also
how the people
Pathological scepticism is not the same as deliberately lying to cover up
meaningful results.
P.
At 09:43 AM 2/7/2007 -0500, you wrote:
Michel Jullian wrote:
Now you mention it, anybody knows if anything positive came out of
their Toyota/Technova funded CF lab in Nice, France?
Many posit
Michel Jullian wrote:
Thanks for the rich historical details, but am I correct in
understanding that nothing positive _actually came out_ of it . . .
That is incorrect. See the paper I referenced earlier:
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RouletteTresultsofi.pdf
74 watts continuously for 40 to 15
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Global warming skepticism alive and well (was Re: [Vo]: Fw:
[BOBPARKS-...])
> Michel Jullian wrote:
>
>>Now you mention it, anybody knows if anything positive came out of
>>their Toyota/Technova funded CF lab in Nice,
Michel Jullian wrote:
Now you mention it, anybody knows if anything positive came out of
their Toyota/Technova funded CF lab in Nice, France?
Many positive results came from this effort:
1. Johnson-Matthey learned how to make Pd that works nearly every
time. They characterize the material i
Now you mention it, anybody knows if anything positive came out of their
Toyota/Technova funded CF lab in Nice, France?
Michel
- Original Message -
From: "David Thomson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 12:13 AM
Subject: RE: [Vo]: Global wa
Hi Robin,
> >What you are missing is that spending money on reducing unimportant GHG
> >emissions could be spent on technology for surviving natural climate
> >change. The IPCC is shooting themselves in the head.
> >
> >Dave
>
> What you are missing is that the money would be better spent on CF,
David Thomson wrote:
> Hi Michel,
>
>> What you're missing is that if solar output variations contribute
>> significantly to global warming, then humans should redouble efforts to
>> reduce GHG emissions. You shoot yourselves in the foot :)
>
> What you are missing is that spending money on redu
In reply to David Thomson's message of Mon, 5 Feb 2007 07:31:11 -0600:
Hi,
[snip]
>Hi Michel,
>
>> What you're missing is that if solar output variations contribute
>> significantly to global warming, then humans should redouble efforts to
>> reduce GHG emissions. You shoot yourselves in the foot
Hi Michel,
> What you're missing is that if solar output variations contribute
> significantly to global warming, then humans should redouble efforts to
> reduce GHG emissions. You shoot yourselves in the foot :)
What you are missing is that spending money on reducing unimportant GHG
emissions co
In reply to Taylor J. Smith's message of Sat, 14 Oct 2006
13:22:19 +:
Hi,
[snip]
>The early Eocene (~56 to 49 million years ago) had the
>highest prolonged global temperatures of the past 65
>million years. High Eocene [CO2]atm is established from
>sodium carbonate minerals formed in saline la
--- "Taylor J. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I thought you might be interested in the below
> article
> from Science News. Global warming is real, but it
> may be
> cyclical beyond our control, especially now that
> methane
> is being released from the melting tundra --
> probab
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