Re: Secrecy for a short time, it might be wise.

2004-07-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mike Carrell writes: > Wise remarks from Hoyt. Jed is a programmer, and in his logical world one > can reverse engineer code, in fact there are programs that will give one a > good start. Of course I realize that machines or experiments can be much more difficult to reverse engineer than software,

Re: Secrecy for a short time, it might be wise.

2004-07-06 Thread Mike Carrell
Wise remarks from Hoyt. Jed is a programmer, and in his logical world one can reverse engineer code, in fact there are programs that will give one a good start. An added note about one of Hoyt's examples: > Rolls Royce bought the design of an automatic transmission from an > american company. > T

RE: Secrecy for a short time, it might be wise.

2004-07-05 Thread William Beaty
On Sun, 4 Jul 2004, Mark Goldes wrote: > I'm surprised at your rant. Well, I'm suprised that you're suprised (and I'm also suprised that you're confident that OU development is just another example of normal inventions and normal patent procedures.) > Companies and inventors who have not releas

Re: Secrecy for a short time, it might be wise.

2004-07-05 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
Steam engines were developed before the science of thermodynamics. In fact, as I recall, thermodynamics was a result of the steam engine. I have worked on several projects where reverse engineering would have been unlikely. There are many subtleties of some devices that are almost impossible to

Re: Secrecy for a short time, it might be wise.

2004-07-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
Nick Palmer writes: > People like Bill and Jed retain their scepticism for a very > good reason. They have had experience, or have knowledge, of how literally > hundreds of "free energy" type schemes have worked out. Yup. Bill's essay is excellent. The Manning book describes many examp

RE: Secrecy for a short time, it might be wise.

2004-07-05 Thread Keith Nagel
he vortex list. K. -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 11:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Secrecy for a short time, it might be wise. Nick Palmer writes: > engineerable" by a competitor but this is not import

Re: Secrecy for a short time, it might be wise.

2004-07-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
Nick Palmer writes: > engineerable" by a competitor but this is not important. As long as you keep > the THEORY behind the construction of the machines secret (unless it would > be very obvious to infer it from the machines themselves) . . . The machine would be an expression or embodiment of the t

Re: Secrecy for a short time, it might be wise.

2004-07-05 Thread Grimer
At 10:08 am 05-07-04 +0100, you wrote: >Sorry about the capitalisation later on... > >Bill Beatty wrote to Mark G >opinions you express here are a rare lack of good judgement>> > >Hi Mark, > People like Bill and Jed retain their scepticism for a very >good reason. They have had ex

Re: Secrecy for a short time, it might be wise.

2004-07-05 Thread Nick Palmer
Sorry about the capitalisation later on... Bill Beatty wrote to Mark G <> Hi Mark, People like Bill and Jed retain their scepticism for a very good reason. They have had experience, or have knowledge, of how literally hundreds of "free energy" type schemes have worked out. They are p

RE: Secrecy for a short time, it might be wise.

2004-07-04 Thread Mark Goldes
Dear Bill, I'm surprised at your rant. Companies and inventors who have not released results publically have patent lawyers who understand the law. I assure you there will be no secrecy on our part once machines are in production and I believe that will be next year. There is every intention of