Re: [vox-tech] FSTAB Questions

2004-02-18 Thread Dave Margolis
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, ME wrote: Hmmm. Your use of the word limit in quotes comes dangerously close to being condescending, but I'll assume that's not how it was meant. It was not at all an attack. It is meant to highlight a theme in the response-- that of choice vs. limits. It was not a

Re: [vox-tech] FSTAB Questions

2004-02-18 Thread Bill Kendrick
On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 01:31:54AM -0800, Dave Margolis wrote: good point. the archive does become a working searchable helpdesk (or whatever), so answering the question from more than one angle can't hurt. Heh... At least twice I have typed in a question (or error report or somesuch) into

[vox-tech] FSTAB Questions

2004-02-17 Thread Robert G. Scofield
When I first installed SuSE 9.0 it automatically put my Windows partition in /etc/fstab. That was nice because I want to be able to use Open Office in Linux to work on Windows files. More importantly, I need to be able to back up my Windows files with my Linux CD burning software. I recently

Re: [vox-tech] FSTAB Questions

2004-02-17 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Tue 17 Feb 04, 9:34 AM, Robert G. Scofield [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: When I first installed SuSE 9.0 it automatically put my Windows partition in /etc/fstab. That was nice because I want to be able to use Open Office in Linux to work on Windows files. More importantly, I need to be able

Re: [vox-tech] FSTAB Questions

2004-02-17 Thread mrp
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 09:34:05AM -0800, Robert G. Scofield wrote: /dev/hda1/mnt/windows vfat umask=0 0 0 Order is only really important in mounts at boot time, and since you're not mounting this partition at boot, it's not important where it appears in

Re: [vox-tech] FSTAB Questions

2004-02-17 Thread Robert G. Scofield
On Tuesday 17 February 2004 10:25, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: hi bob, Hi Pete. out of curiosity -- why did you reinstall? My hard drive went bad. In fact you were the one who said I needed a new hard drive. So I installed Linux on the new hard drive. Maybe reinstall was not the right

Re: [vox-tech] FSTAB Questions

2004-02-17 Thread Jonathan Stickel
Peter Jay Salzman wrote: On Tue 17 Feb 04, 9:34 AM, Robert G. Scofield [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: ... /dev/hda1/mnt/windows vfat umask=0 0 0 ... Will I screw something up with my simple umask=0? no, i don't believe so. to be honest, i'm not sure what

Re: [vox-tech] FSTAB Questions

2004-02-17 Thread Mark Street
Look at your options for the windows partition umask=000 is equal to rwxrwxrwx on the doze partition I would probably do a defaults with your umask entry tacked on. man mount, and search for defaults. /dev/hda1/mnt/windows vfat defaults,umask=0 0 0

Re: [vox-tech] FSTAB Questions

2004-02-17 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Robert G. Scofield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On this computer it's IDE 1 (I believe.) And it was an IBM deskstar that burned out. I checked the Vox-tech archives and learned that people were having problems with the IBM deskstar. The IBM models that for a brief while had a problematic

Re: [vox-tech] FSTAB Questions

2004-02-17 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Tue 17 Feb 04, 10:54 AM, Robert G. Scofield [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Tuesday 17 February 2004 10:25, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: out of curiosity -- why did you reinstall? My hard drive went bad. In fact you were the one who said I needed a new hard drive. So I installed Linux on the

Re: [vox-tech] FSTAB Questions

2004-02-17 Thread mrp
It seems to me there should be a better way to do this. Perhaps use the noauto,owner,rw options like a cdrom so that the partition belongs to the mounting user. But the user then has to mount it manually at some point. I haven't tried this yet myself. Unfortunately, that's not what the

Re: [vox-tech] FSTAB Questions

2004-02-17 Thread David Hummel
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:03:14AM -0800, Jonathan Stickel wrote: Since the partition is mounted as root, and fat32 doesn't really do file ownership, all the files and permissions are set to root when it gets mounted automatically during boot. So without the umask entry, no one except root

Re: [vox-tech] FSTAB Questions

2004-02-17 Thread Jonathan Stickel
David Hummel wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:03:14AM -0800, Jonathan Stickel wrote: Since the partition is mounted as root, and fat32 doesn't really do file ownership, all the files and permissions are set to root when it gets mounted automatically during boot. So without the umask entry, no

Re: [vox-tech] FSTAB Questions

2004-02-17 Thread Ken Bloom
In addition to everyone else's wonderful suggestions, I also always mount vfat drives with the showexec option, which turns off the exec bit for files that aren't .exe files, but leaves it on for directories. You can't do that with umask. On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 09:34:05AM -0800, Robert G.

Re: [vox-tech] FSTAB Questions

2004-02-17 Thread David Hummel
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:38:31AM -0800, Jonathan Stickel wrote: David Hummel wrote: /dev/hda1/windowsvfatauto,rw,user,umask=0 0 0 But won't the user be root since it gets mounted by root at boot? Yes. Actually users would be better, so that any user can unmount/mount. But

Re: [vox-tech] FSTAB Questions

2004-02-17 Thread David Hummel
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:40:19AM -0800, Ken Bloom wrote: In addition to everyone else's wonderful suggestions, I also always mount vfat drives with the showexec option, which turns off the exec bit for files that aren't .exe files, but leaves it on for directories. You can't do that with

Re: [vox-tech] FSTAB Questions

2004-02-17 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Tue 17 Feb 04, 11:52 AM, David Hummel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:40:19AM -0800, Ken Bloom wrote: In addition to everyone else's wonderful suggestions, I also always mount vfat drives with the showexec option, which turns off the exec bit for files that aren't .exe

Re: [vox-tech] FSTAB Questions

2004-02-17 Thread ME
Gee. What else could be said on this topic? Heh heh heh... (comments below) Robert G. Scofield said: [chop] 1) Does this order look okay? Is /dev/hda1 in the right place? Man fstab says that order is important. Other answered this well enough in this thread. 2) Instead of umask=0 I

Re: [vox-tech] FSTAB Questions

2004-02-17 Thread Ken Bloom
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:52:24AM -0800, David Hummel wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:40:19AM -0800, Ken Bloom wrote: In addition to everyone else's wonderful suggestions, I also always mount vfat drives with the showexec option, which turns off the exec bit for files that aren't .exe

Re: [vox-tech] FSTAB Questions

2004-02-17 Thread Henry House
På tisdag, 17 februari 2004, skrev Peter Jay Salzman: [...] 1) Does this order look okay? Is /dev/hda1 in the right place? it depends. did you plug the new hard drive in IDE 4 slot A or slot B? if you put it in slot B, the drive spins at a faster rate and can prematurely burn out the

Re: [vox-tech] FSTAB Questions

2004-02-17 Thread Dave Margolis
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, ME wrote: On a multi-user system with a mounted windows filesystem, you may have desire for everyone to have read access, but only a few to have write access to the mounted windows volume. Here is what I have found to work: I don't understand this scenario. What is a

Re: [vox-tech] FSTAB Questions

2004-02-17 Thread ME
Dave Margolis said: On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, ME wrote: On a multi-user system with a mounted windows filesystem, you may have desire for everyone to have read access, but only a few to have write access to the mounted windows volume. Here is what I have found to work: I don't understand this

Re: [vox-tech] FSTAB Questions

2004-02-17 Thread Dave Margolis
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, ME wrote: One of the amazing things with software is that it can grow beyond the confines and limitations that people try to impose on it. Luckily, since we use Linux, we do not need to limit ourselves to only use software as it was expected. Hmmm. Your use of the word

Re: [vox-tech] FSTAB Questions

2004-02-17 Thread ME
Dave Margolis said: On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, ME wrote: One of the amazing things with software is that it can grow beyond the confines and limitations that people try to impose on it. Luckily, since we use Linux, we do not need to limit ourselves to only use software as it was expected. Hmmm.