[web2py:18180] Re: Patch to run web2py in a subdirectory on GAE

2009-03-16 Thread NguyendHEX
It works but we need update app.yaml file to handle static and gaehandler.py On Feb 26, 9:34 pm, Markus Gritsch wrote: > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 2:48 PM, mdipierro wrote: > > > I only see one modification. Could you email me the patch? > > The second modification is adding the empty __init__.py

[web2py:18179] Re: Living on the edge. ( trunk and how to handle admin.tar )

2009-03-16 Thread Yarko Tymciurak
you do not need to do anything; web2py will upgrade these when you upgrade web2py. On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 1:05 AM, Jeffield wrote: > > Hey, > > I am working with the trunk [the googlecode version] > > if updates to one of the tar files come in (admin.tar, welcome.tar, or > examples.tar) > here

[web2py:18178] Re: Qusestion about the book?

2009-03-16 Thread Yarko Tymciurak
you can safely ignore this... On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Ralf Schoenian wrote: > Hi ML, > > I cannot access the wiki page. Firefox complains about the certificate: > > Secure Connection Failed > > > mdp.cti.depaul.edu uses an invalid security certificate. > > The certificate is not truste

[web2py:18177] Re: Marketing suggestion

2009-03-16 Thread weheh
Good thread. Here's the summary to-do list, somewhat in order of immediate bang for the buck as I see it, but not of effort required: - Project the message that web2py has a team behind it (team of developers) - Index the cool web2py-powered sites (team of users) - Update docs and make linked ind

[web2py:18176] Living on the edge. ( trunk and how to handle admin.tar )

2009-03-16 Thread Jeffield
Hey, I am working with the trunk [the googlecode version] if updates to one of the tar files come in (admin.tar, welcome.tar, or examples.tar) here is what I do. (on linux) Stop the web2py server. $ cd $WEB2PYHOME $ svn update $ cd applications/admin $ tar -xvf ../../admin.tar -- repeat for wel

[web2py:18175] Re: Qusestion about the book?

2009-03-16 Thread Ralf Schoenian
Hi ML, I cannot access the wiki page. Firefox complains about the certificate: Secure Connection Failed mdp.cti.depaul.edu uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is not trusted because it is self signed. The certificate is only valid for Massimo Di Pierro T

[web2py:18174] Re: Qusestion about the book?

2009-03-16 Thread Yarko Tymciurak
There is nothing really sad about reviewed writing, and the publication processes. The same is true for scholarly journals. This has been this way for a very, very long time. It takes effort and time, so that it costs money is not sad either when it provides value. Publication provides a forum f

[web2py:18172] Re: Marketing suggestion

2009-03-16 Thread Jason Brower
I know nothing about kpax, but it would be nice to have a frame work for social networking. That's the kind of website I am working on now. And if you want to call it enterprise, I think it would be good to show how many users this thing can handle. For example, I want to setup web2py at my wor

[web2py:18171] Re: Marketing suggestion

2009-03-16 Thread Jason Brower
I agree... THAT is what we need. Cool apps and a clean plugin framework. (And a better homepage. :P) Regards, Jason On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 11:55 -0700, Jeffield wrote: > just my 0.2 > write some killer apps, fans will follow. > -- note, I have not written any, but I am trying ;) > > Thanks, > Jef

[web2py:18170] Re: Qusestion about the book?

2009-03-16 Thread Jeffield
> In academia only publications count. A book on sale counts. > A free book does not. > Normally software does not count either. This is really said. ( I am currently enrolled in a distance education program, and my Sister is currently a prof.) Just makes me said that our "higher" education factio

[web2py:18169] Re: Qusestion about the book?

2009-03-16 Thread mdipierro
You can copy the code and any itemized list in the book. If you want to copy other text please email me first. Massimo On Mar 16, 6:56 pm, Baron wrote: > Are we allowed to copy sections from the published book into the wiki? > Or would that break copyright? > > On Mar 16, 10:47 am, mdipierro w

[web2py:18168] Re: web2py 1.59 is OUT

2009-03-16 Thread Yarko Tymciurak
Here's the server screen... On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Yarko Tymciurak wrote: > tonight's bazaar latest (1.59); applications/admin/models/0.py edited as > follows (only one line changed): > > ## Default editor > > # TEXT_EDITOR = 'edit_area' or 'amy' > TEXT_EDITOR = 'amy' > > > 5 browsers

[web2py:18166] Re: web2py 1.59 is OUT

2009-03-16 Thread ceej
@Yarko, It's not that, I can't fix the problem if I can't see it :) On Mar 16, 8:53 pm, Yarko Tymciurak wrote: > Sigh - > I see you are in disbelief... Ok - I will put some screen shots together for > you... > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 6:58 PM, ceej wrote: > > > @Yarko, what's not working i

[web2py:18165] Re: web2py 1.59 is OUT

2009-03-16 Thread Yarko Tymciurak
Sigh - I see you are in disbelief... Ok - I will put some screen shots together for you... On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 6:58 PM, ceej wrote: > > @Yarko, what's not working in FF? Because I'm using FF 3.0.7 mac and > works fine, same with Massimo. You can change the color scheme by > editing admin/sta

[web2py:18164] Re: Qusestion about the book?

2009-03-16 Thread Yarko Tymciurak
that you even asked says all you need to know: if in doubt, do nothing without written permission. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Baron wrote: > > Are we allowed to copy sections from the published book into the wiki? > Or would that break copyright? > > > > On Mar 16, 10:47 am, mdipierro wr

[web2py:18163] Re: web2py 1.59 is OUT

2009-03-16 Thread Francisco Gama
I found the source of the problem. If I change my keyboard layout to U.S. it works fine. Just notice that the U.S. International keyboard layout never gave me any problem/ incompatibility. On Mar 16, 11:58 pm, ceej wrote: > @Yarko, what's not working in FF? Because I'm using FF 3.0.7 mac and >

[web2py:18162] Re: web2py 1.59 is OUT

2009-03-16 Thread ceej
@Yarko, what's not working in FF? Because I'm using FF 3.0.7 mac and works fine, same with Massimo. You can change the color scheme by editing admin/static/eamy/bundle_markup or bundle_python On Mar 16, 6:46 pm, Yarko Tymciurak wrote: > umm... I know that... it'a actually shouldn't be necessary

[web2py:18161] Re: Qusestion about the book?

2009-03-16 Thread Baron
Are we allowed to copy sections from the published book into the wiki? Or would that break copyright? On Mar 16, 10:47 am, mdipierro wrote: > This questions comes up once in a while. The reason for the published > book is not that I make any money from it. the reason is that I need > to justif

[web2py:18160] Re: web2py 1.59 is OUT

2009-03-16 Thread Yarko Tymciurak
umm... I know that... it'a actually shouldn't be necessary (wasn't w/ chrome - I can change the code back and forth, no prob)... I thought it might be interaction with "it's all text" which works on text boxes, so disabled that... does not work in my firefox; don't yet know why... works in Chrome

[web2py:18159] Re: web2py 1.59 is OUT

2009-03-16 Thread Yarko Tymciurak
I suppose - single quote, double quote, paren, braces all the pair-kind of stuff seems to insert pairs of characters On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Yarko Tymciurak wrote: > so my typing a single quote inserts a pair of them... is that what it's > supposed to do? > > > On Mon, Mar 16,

[web2py:18158] Re: web2py 1.59 is OUT

2009-03-16 Thread ceej
@Yarko, if you're updating a previous app you need to clear your cache and restart the browser etc... I would also do this anyway even if you aren't updating an app. Edit one of your controllers and type [dbi +tab] On Mar 16, 6:38 pm, Yarko Tymciurak wrote: > interesting  I can get amy up in

[web2py:18157] Re: web2py 1.59 is OUT

2009-03-16 Thread Yarko Tymciurak
so my typing a single quote inserts a pair of them... is that what it's supposed to do? On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 6:35 PM, ceej wrote: > > @Francisco, > > I'm on the same setup as yourself and typing ' works just fine, it > does 'your_content' like textmate does. If you also want to use the > old

[web2py:18156] Re: web2py 1.59 is OUT

2009-03-16 Thread Yarko Tymciurak
interesting I can get amy up in Google Chrome, but not in Firefox 3.0.7 (same running web2py - 2 browsers side-by-side)... also, at least in Chrome tab appears to just insert a tab... On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 5:55 PM, ceej wrote: > > [alt+f1] for save, I changed it because of the issue of

[web2py:18155] Re: web2py 1.59 is OUT

2009-03-16 Thread ceej
@Francisco, I'm on the same setup as yourself and typing ' works just fine, it does 'your_content' like textmate does. If you also want to use the old editor you can edit 0.py in admin and change it from amy to edit_area :) @Massimo I'll post them here in a bit :) On Mar 16, 6:28 pm, Francisco

[web2py:18154] Re: web2py 1.59 is OUT

2009-03-16 Thread mdipierro
Better. Thanks! You should explain all of the available shortcuts. They are very useful. Massimo On Mar 16, 5:55 pm, ceej wrote: > [alt+f1] for save, I changed it because of the issue of adding s when > saving :) > > On Mar 16, 5:30 pm, mdipierro wrote: > > > It contains some bug fixes to the

[web2py:18153] Re: web2py 1.59 is OUT

2009-03-16 Thread Francisco Gama
I can't type the ' character in the new editor. I'm on a Mac, tried with different browsers including Safari and Firefox with an american keyboard and U.S. International layout. On Mar 16, 10:30 pm, mdipierro wrote: > It contains some bug fixes to the new gluon.tools.Service and CJ port > of th

[web2py:18152] Re: web2py 1.59 is OUT

2009-03-16 Thread ceej
[alt+f1] for save, I changed it because of the issue of adding s when saving :) On Mar 16, 5:30 pm, mdipierro wrote: > It contains some bug fixes to the new gluon.tools.Service and CJ port > of the Amy editor. [crtl+S] for save and [tab] for auto-completion. > > To use Amy instead of edit_area i

[web2py:18151] web2py 1.59 is OUT

2009-03-16 Thread mdipierro
It contains some bug fixes to the new gluon.tools.Service and CJ port of the Amy editor. [crtl+S] for save and [tab] for auto-completion. To use Amy instead of edit_area in admin, edit admin/models/0.py Please report any bug. Massimo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You r

[web2py:18150] Re: The web2py wiki is now ready for your input!

2009-03-16 Thread Yarko Tymciurak
This is all hypothetical as I see it. RST and markdown both use similar notation for headings and bullits. In any case the simplest markup is text. What specifically is in your way now - right now, what's the next thing you need? On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:36 AM, DenesL wrote: > > Ok, I will

[web2py:18149] Re: error using the shell

2009-03-16 Thread Kirby Turner
Please ignore my previous email. I now think the problem is in my model code. Apologies for the fault alarm. -KIRBY On Mar 16, 2009, at 4:26 PM, Kirby Turner wrote: > > When I try to run my app through the shell when the -M (-- > import_models) flag I get the following error: > > python we

[web2py:18148] error using the shell

2009-03-16 Thread Kirby Turner
When I try to run my app through the shell when the -M (-- import_models) flag I get the following error: python web2py.py -S orders --import_models WARNING:root:URL rewrite is on. configuration in route.py default applications appear to be installed already web2py Enterprise Web Framework Crea

[web2py:18147] Re: Routes and request.env.path_info

2009-03-16 Thread NguyendHEX
I suggest we should have an alias name and a url name like PHP $_SERVER['REQUEST_URI'] $_SERVER[’SCRIPT_NAME’] On Mar 17, 2:11 am, mdipierro wrote: > You cannot if you use routes. Let me look into this perhaps it can be > stored before rerouting. > > Massimo > > On Mar 16, 2:09 pm, NguyendHEX

[web2py:18146] Re: Routes and request.env.path_info

2009-03-16 Thread mdipierro
You cannot if you use routes. Let me look into this perhaps it can be stored before rerouting. Massimo On Mar 16, 2:09 pm, NguyendHEX wrote: > Hi, > > I am mapping an url with a controller/function in Web2py but i have no > way to get url that user surfed. request.env.path_info always returns >

[web2py:18145] Re: Marketing suggestion

2009-03-16 Thread mdipierro
Both you and Joe make good points. I think KPAX once integrated with T3 can be a killer app. What else? looking for ideas? Massimo On Mar 16, 1:55 pm, Jeffield wrote: > just my 0.2 > write some killer apps, fans will follow. > -- note, I have not written any, but I am trying ;) > > Thanks, > J

[web2py:18144] Routes and request.env.path_info

2009-03-16 Thread NguyendHEX
Hi, I am mapping an url with a controller/function in Web2py but i have no way to get url that user surfed. request.env.path_info always returns path of controller/function. How can i get url (alias) that user enter at IE address bar to browse the web? Thanks, Nguyen --~--~-~--~~--

[web2py:18143] Re: CAS a new auth system

2009-03-16 Thread mdipierro
Thanks Julio. Given your interest in this perhaps you want to take the job of porting CAS on Auth? Massimo On Mar 16, 1:45 pm, Speedbird wrote: > No difference actually (well, Tools is really my "poor's man > authentication on steroids :), bear in mind that my app was coded > where there were s

[web2py:18142] Re: Marketing suggestion

2009-03-16 Thread Jeffield
just my 0.2 write some killer apps, fans will follow. -- note, I have not written any, but I am trying ;) Thanks, Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py Web Framework" group. To post to this gro

[web2py:18141] Re: CAS a new auth system

2009-03-16 Thread Speedbird
No difference actually (well, Tools is really my "poor's man authentication on steroids :), bear in mind that my app was coded where there were still many changes being done to T2 (pre 1.55) and I was getting a grasp on authentication and authorization, I am currently developing an app that I can

[web2py:18140] Re: Marketing suggestion

2009-03-16 Thread Joe Barnhart
Marketing a product is the process of understanding how your product is different from alternatives and communicating your advantages. The first step is understanding why your product is desirable. That isn't as easy as it sounds. Describing the product is best done by pointing out its "benefit

[web2py:18139] Re: The web2py wiki is now ready for your input!

2009-03-16 Thread DenesL
Ok, I will play devil's advocate. Having all the bells and whistles is fine as long as: 1) They make it easy to participate. 2) They aid the structure. examples: it has to be in web2py: ideal but currently missing features that hinder structural organization (roadblock) it has to use reST, good

[web2py:18138] Re: The web2py wiki is now ready for your input!

2009-03-16 Thread Kuba Kucharski
There is a problem with pages/faq, internal error https://mdp.cti.depaul.edu/admin/default/ticket/wiki/83.20.71.158.2009-03-16.12-12-04.d9748d21-7374-4c31-ba71-05b0880afebe -- K --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Goog

[web2py:18137] Re: The web2py wiki is now ready for your input!

2009-03-16 Thread Yarko Tymciurak
There is no need for stall We have made some decisions to help prevent stall: RST. People working on Python3 Patterns book often ONLY submit RST. Anyone who has a writeup can write off-line, edit until they like and submit. Or work on the wiki, and wait to make public until it is edited, and

[web2py:18136] Re: db backend

2009-03-16 Thread Yarko Tymciurak
default for Office 2007 onward is Microsoft.ACE engine, which is supposedly backward compatible (will read old files). Anyway, I'm not an expert - that's what I remember from my readings these past days. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Pai wrote: > > I did not know that Access can connect to o

[web2py:18135] Re: The web2py wiki is now ready for your input!

2009-03-16 Thread DenesL
On Mar 14, 11:29 pm, Jonathan B wrote: > Hi DenesL, > > On Mar 13, 6:20 am, DenesL wrote: > > > I see there is a "Web2py Documentation" page that could serve as the > > backbone but it is getting kinda lost in the page list, is there a way > > to visualize the hierarchy?. > > The instructions fo

[web2py:18134] Re: db backend

2009-03-16 Thread Pai
I did not know that Access can connect to other db backend. I can look into this. As for the file back end, I guess it would be Jet since that the default for the access file? On Mar 15, 11:04 pm, Yarko Tymciurak wrote: > Also, you know Access can connect to "external data" (SQL-Server), corre

[web2py:18133] Re: db backend

2009-03-16 Thread Pai
I'll be happy to help running some test. I'll ping you about this again once pycon is over. Thanks! On Mar 15, 11:01 pm, mdipierro wrote: > we can if/when > 1) you are available to run some tests > 2) not until after PyCon. > > Massimo > > On Mar 15, 10:54 pm, Pai wrote: > > > is it possible

[web2py:18132] Re: Marketing suggestion

2009-03-16 Thread mdipierro
I agree with this. The new "who" and "support" pages are an attempt to do exactly that. Although as I have suggested in the past it, we should not just imitate other open source projects. We should think bigger. Remember the discussion on the "open source corporation"? There is more than unites u

[web2py:18131] Re: Marketing suggestion

2009-03-16 Thread Francisco Gama
One "detail" about marketing. I know for a fact that projects that appear as "created by Mr. X" don't trigger enterprises the same way as "created by Team X". There are so many cases of projects (mainly) created by a single person that are sold as being created by a team. This is very common and

[web2py:18130] Re: Marketing suggestion

2009-03-16 Thread mdipierro
I am definitively open to changing the tag line but some comments: web2py users have been growing, slowly but steadily and exponentially. I think mainly because of word of mouth. The best way to grow web2py is for you to blog about it, twit about it, etc. Tell other people what you think. It is

[web2py:18129] Re: Marketing suggestion

2009-03-16 Thread Hernan Olivera
Is it really "enterprise"? Does it scale for full organization systems? How huge are real web2py systems implemented? I´m just starting a full org sys migration, now my bet is Django, but I´m in time to let a try to web2py What do you think? thanks -- Hernan Olivera --~--~-~--~~-

[web2py:18128] Re: Marketing suggestion

2009-03-16 Thread Miguel
Maybe this one tagline: "Enterprise strong, made simple" List of suggested taglines (don't think I missed any): "Enterprise strong, made simple" "Easy to use, industrial strength" "Easy framework; enterprise ready" Miguel Markus Gritsch wrote: > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:28 AM, weheh wrote: >

[web2py:18127] Re: Marketing suggestion

2009-03-16 Thread Anand Vaidya
When I was comparing python web frameworks, initially I had assumed (erroneously) that web2py was the J2EE equivalent with large , ugly layers upon layers of abstraction, due to the "Enterprise" word. So the misunderstanding seems to be quite common... However, now I know, my assumption was wron

[web2py:18126] Re: Qusestion about the book?

2009-03-16 Thread Jonathan B
Hi Marco, On Mar 16, 12:58 am, "ma...@rockiger.com" wrote: > Is there any plan to make open book, like the djagobook? > It is not because I am stingy, but because web2py is moving so fast. Yes, it's in the works right now. We're developing an up-to-date wiki here: https://mdp.cti.depaul.edu/w

[web2py:18125] Re: Marketing suggestion

2009-03-16 Thread Markus Gritsch
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:28 AM, weheh wrote: > > The fact that web2py scales to enterprise-wide apps is a huge selling > point to the professional community. It immediately caught my > attention because I wanted to be sure the system was able to be used > in industrial-strength applications. So

[web2py:18124] Re: Feaure request: CRYPT with SHA1

2009-03-16 Thread NguyendHEX
Thanks Francisco and Massimo. I manually hash passwords by SHA1 because i am converting a working website from .NET into web2py. On Mar 14, 10:37 pm, mdipierro wrote: > Uploading to trunk now. Thanks Francisco. > > On Mar 14, 8:49 am, Francisco Gama wrote: > > > > > Here is the list of the cur