Interesting. What privileges, if any, would you propose 'emeritus reviewers'
to have?
-Filip
On Apr 9, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Dmitry Titov dim...@chromium.org wrote:
How about creating an 'emeritus reviewer' status (no r+ power) and let people
*voluntarily* move themselves to this status? I
Hi,
As far as I'm concerned WebCL would have serious security issues as it lets web
app to provide OpenCL target code (which is really unsafe),
besides its using requires OpenCL knowledge and hence might be too complex for
a web developer.
Good alternative could be enabling parallel
Unrelated to Dmitry's suggestion, but since I brought up emeritus
contributors earlier in the thread, I should explain my usage. The
emeritus class proposed in the ancient webkit-reviewers thread about
sunsetting was simply to answer the fact that committers.py has two
purposes:
1. It exists as
Why not infer ParallelArrays automatically? What is the specific reason for
requiring a new type?
-Filip
On Apr 10, 2013, at 12:16 AM, Pozdnyakov, Mikhail
mikhail.pozdnya...@intel.com wrote:
Hi,
As far as I'm concerned WebCL would have serious security issues as it lets
web app to
I don't know if this is in line with what you and Dmitry were thinking, but
here's what I like about a symbolic emeritus status: it takes care of the
possible drive-by review problem while also continuing to recognize the person
within the project. It's symbolic, and it feels nicer than just
If we create an emeritus class in committers.py, we also have a whole
bunch of old (long-webkit-retired) Apple committers/reviewers (ken,
vicki, cblu, gramps, etc.) which should go there. :) Then the tools
(including validate-committer-lists) would be less confused by their
presence in ChangeLogs
Why not infer ParallelArrays automatically?
Sorry, did not get it. Could you please elaborate?
I'm not insisting on this concrete proposal, my point is just that it would be
more safe and natural to enhance
ECMAScript (enable parallel calculations there) rather than make developers to
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 2:29 AM, Pozdnyakov, Mikhail
mikhail.pozdnya...@intel.com wrote:
Why not infer ParallelArrays automatically?
Sorry, did not get it. Could you please elaborate?
I'm not insisting on this concrete proposal, my point is just that it
would be more safe and natural to
Thanks for clarification. I also agree that this is better :-)
BR,
Mikhail
From: ryosuke.n...@gmail.com [ryosuke.n...@gmail.com] on behalf of Ryosuke Niwa
[rn...@webkit.org]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 12:38 PM
To: Pozdnyakov, Mikhail
Cc: Filip
Hi
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Thibault Imbert timb...@adobe.com wrote:
Yes, leveraging multicore and the power of GPUs for general computations
is great and very powerful but first, securing such kernels is hard, and
authoring these would be pretty brutal to most web developers, I
On Apr 10, 2013, at 2:29 AM, Pozdnyakov, Mikhail
mikhail.pozdnya...@intel.com wrote:
Why not infer ParallelArrays automatically?
Sorry, did not get it. Could you please elaborate?
Normal JS arrays. You use them with pure computation. Profiler notices this.
And then the same things that
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Antonio Gomes toniki...@webkit.org wrote:
Hi
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Thibault Imbert timb...@adobe.comwrote:
Yes, leveraging multicore and the power of GPUs for general computations
is great and very powerful but first, securing such kernels is
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:46 AM, Eric Seidel e...@webkit.org wrote:
If we create an emeritus class in committers.py, we also have a whole
bunch of old (long-webkit-retired) Apple committers/reviewers (ken,
vicki, cblu, gramps, etc.) which should go there. :) Then the tools
(including
On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Jarred Nicholls jar...@webkit.org wrote:
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Antonio Gomes toniki...@webkit.org wrote:
Hi
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Thibault Imbert timb...@adobe.com wrote:
Yes, leveraging multicore and the power of GPUs for general
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Filip Pizlo fpi...@apple.com wrote:
On Apr 10, 2013, at 2:29 AM, Pozdnyakov, Mikhail
mikhail.pozdnya...@intel.com wrote:
Why not infer ParallelArrays automatically?
Sorry, did not get it. Could you please elaborate?
Normal JS arrays. You use them
The parallel arrays apis aren't a magic make my code parallel wand.
They don't make general code parallel, they simply provide a bunch of functions
like map, etc where if you restrict your list of language features to a
specific subset, they'll vectorise it.
For instance
Right, I get how ParallelArrays would work. I was asking Filip how you
might infer that an array could be a ParallelArray.
-- Dirk
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Oliver Hunt oli...@apple.com wrote:
The parallel arrays apis aren't a magic make my code parallel wand.
They don't make general
I'm not sure what you mean here: a parallel array is simply an array of
numbers; there is nothing magic about it.
If we _really_ wanted to be blunt about it, we could simply say (in Array.map)
if (length = giant function.isEasyPeasy() everything in the array is a
number)
return
Right, you need some way to ensure that the functions applied to the array
are pure, the array doesn't mutate, etc. I thought perhaps your
ParallelArray() type would be ensuring this (e.g., by enforcing type
checking and freezing the array), but maybe I misunderstood you? Even then,
I'm not sure
On Apr 10, 2013, at 12:37 PM, Dirk Pranke dpra...@chromium.org wrote:
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Filip Pizlo fpi...@apple.com wrote:
On Apr 10, 2013, at 2:29 AM, Pozdnyakov, Mikhail
mikhail.pozdnya...@intel.com wrote:
Why not infer ParallelArrays automatically?
On Apr 10, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Filip Pizlo fpi...@apple.com wrote:
On Apr 10, 2013, at 12:37 PM, Dirk Pranke dpra...@chromium.org wrote:
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Filip Pizlo fpi...@apple.com wrote:
On Apr 10, 2013, at 2:29 AM, Pozdnyakov, Mikhail
On Apr 10, 2013, at 1:03 PM, Dirk Pranke dpra...@chromium.org wrote:
Right, you need some way to ensure that the functions applied to the array
are pure, the array doesn't mutate, etc. I thought perhaps your
ParallelArray() type would be ensuring this (e.g., by enforcing type checking
and
Dear WebKit devs,
I would like to make console.log and related functions work without
requiring that this is set to the console object. This would make
debugging from Web Inspector easier, because console.log could be
passed directly to functions that require a callback, instead of
having to
You can also write a custom binding code instead of adding a new IDL
keyword for this specific use case.
- R. Niwa
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Victor Costan cos...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear WebKit devs,
I would like to make console.log and related functions work without
requiring that
Thank you for the very quick response, Ryosuke!
My main concerns with custom binding code is that I'd like to cover
the related functions in console (debug, error, info, warn, dir,
dirxml, table, trace, count), and I think something like LenientThis
can be useful for making other functions more
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Victor Costan cos...@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you for the very quick response, Ryosuke!
My main concerns with custom binding code is that I'd like to cover
the related functions in console (debug, error, info, warn, dir,
dirxml, table, trace, count), and I
Hi Patrick,
A few questions I have about the CMake system, being someone who's never used
it before.
-I would like to keep all of the unified properties settings that the VS2010
property sheets hierarchy provided.
Can we still maintain that through CMake easily?
-How does CMake handle
Hi,
Can we rewrite CodeGenerator*.pm in Ruby or Python? I feel that the
current code is very hard to understand and hack on. In particular we have
CodeGenerator.pm and CodeGeneratorJS.pm (CodeGeneratorV8.pm has been
removed), and we need to merge them anyway.
I've seen many people expressing
I know some folks in our TOK office have expressed strong interest in
re-writing it in python for Blink. Perhaps there is an opportunity
for some x-project collaboration here.
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote:
Hi,
Can we rewrite CodeGenerator*.pm in Ruby or
Hi everyone:
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 10, 2013, at 3:30 PM, Roger Fong roger_f...@apple.com wrote:
2. If you're working on Windows, open up the solution with Visual Studio and
do work as usual, unless you want to add files in which case you go through
the CMake scripts again before
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Roger Fong roger_f...@apple.com wrote:
If my above concerns can be resolved and the example you posted works fine
for us (I'll try to take a look at it soon), it's probably okay to start
checking in stuff to get ready for the move to CMake. I don't think we
Hi,
I've started moving Google owned http://test-results.appspot.com and
http://webkit-commit-queue.appspot.com to Apple owned
http://webkit-test-results.appspot.com and
http://webkit-queues.appspot.comrespectively.
Ojan and I have already moved the flakiness dashboard to
I know some folks in our TOK office have expressed strong interest
in re-writing it in python for Blink.
Yeah, I'm planning (but in low priority) to rewrite it in Python after
cleaning up IDLs and code generators. The difficulty is that
CodeGenerator*.pm are not the only target for rewriting.
On Apr 10, 2013, at 3:02 PM, Victor Costan cos...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear WebKit devs,
I would like to make console.log and related functions work without
requiring that this is set to the console object. This would make
debugging from Web Inspector easier, because console.log could be
this is kind of what 'bind' is for, no?
it's a little wordy, but you can just pass:
console.log.bind(console)
instead of the closure.
its been around quite a while:
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Function/bind
personally as a web dev, it would
On Apr 10, 2013, at 6:32 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote:
Can we rewrite CodeGenerator*.pm in Ruby or Python? I feel that the current
code is very hard to understand and hack on. In particular we have
CodeGenerator.pm and CodeGeneratorJS.pm (CodeGeneratorV8.pm has been
removed),
As a person who does not know any of Perl, Python or Ruby very well, I find
unfamiliar Python the easiest to understand (even though I have more experience
with Perl). I feel this would be worthwhile, if not necessarily a top priority.
I do hope that this could be done without undue increase
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Timothy Hatcher timo...@apple.com wrote:
On Apr 10, 2013, at 6:32 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote:
Can we rewrite CodeGenerator*.pm in Ruby or Python? I feel that the
current code is very hard to understand and hack on. In particular we have
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote:
Moving http://webkit-commit-queue.appspot.com is a little tricker because
it involves moving off EWS bots as well.
My current plan is to modify Bugzilla so that it'll show two sets of
bubbles for both websites during the
I've seen many people expressing their inability to improve the binding
code because of its being written in Perl.
Although I agree that the complexity of the binding code partly comes from
the fact that it's written in Perl, another big reason is that current code
generators are more
Unfortunately, EWS is going to have to re-process all 300+ patches that are
currently up for review again
as there is no easy way for the status server or EWS bots to retrieve the
information from the old status server.
Please obsolete patches and close bugs as much as we can to reduce the work
On Apr 10, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Kentaro Hara hara...@chromium.org wrote:
Now that JSC is the only engine in WebKit and V8 is the only engine in V8, we
both can remove a bunch of unnecessary abstractions and IDL attributes that
had existed to share code between JSC and V8. In short-term, this
If a rewrite does happen, it would be nice to have some generic functionality
abstracted away from the specific language generators. For example, the
function to add an #include statement to the generated implementation file is
currently replicated for every language. JS and V8 have
Alan has offered us a help to migrate the status data from the old server
so I'm going to temporarily move EWS back to the old server until that's
done. Sorry for the noise and thank you for your patience.
- R. Niwa
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote:
Am 11.04.2013 um 00:30 schrieb Roger Fong:
Hi Patrick,
A few questions I have about the CMake system, being someone who's never used
it before.
-I would like to keep all of the unified properties settings that the VS2010
property sheets hierarchy provided.
Can we still maintain that
Hi Patrick,
On Apr 10, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Patrick Gansterer wrote:
[snip]
1. There's also the Wx port, but they don't seem very interested in
switching and it seems the build system is very low maintenance.
There is still a patch at webkit.org/b/73100 for adding CMake files for Wx.
The
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