On Jun 16, 2007, at 1:56 AM, Pierre Bernard wrote:
Hibernate is a joke of a pile of crap! It is by no means a
persistence framework. You might at best call it a SQL generator.
No validation, no object graph management, makes you have SQL-like
Strings in your Java code, ...
Hehe, hear ya
I _believe_ it will happen much sooner than the Leopard release.
On Jun 15, 2007, at 4:54 PM, Jeremy Matthews wrote:
So...since we can't hear what was discussed under NDA, does anyone
care to wager a guess as to when their intentions (and the WWDC NDA
info) will be made public?
Will we ha
Beware of Hibernate!
* You cannot write clean code that ages well: you mix model
information, java code and SQL in one file. The compiler cannot
validate HQL/SQL
* No way to query the model. Thus no fancy stuff like D2W is possible
* No transactions !!! You must add Spring to get transacti
So far I have to agree with your assessment regarding the differences. While
we are still pretty early on in learning Hibernate and we have never used
any previous version than the current release. Here are some things that we
have found to be actually pretty cool about Hibernate:
* EOF and most O
On 16/06/2007, at 8:56 AM, Pierre Bernard wrote:
We have been seriously investigating Hibernate.
No matter where in the world you are now. You might have heard me
crying!
I had the "pleasure" to be involved in a Hibernate project. I
wouldn't know where to start criticizing this whateve
Hello Dov;
I just wish
Apple would give it more respect and realize that the rest of the
world
would benefit from it.
I might be being pessimistic, but I'm not so sure if significant
portions of the software engineering population would have the
mindset to really get into the groove wit
So...since we can't hear what was discussed under NDA, does anyone
care to wager a guess as to when their intentions (and the WWDC NDA
info) will be made public?
Will we have to wait until Leopard is officially released?
I hope not...especially since the Apple Bridge/Tools are
deprecated..
I am trying to make a fetch using a stored procedure via EO Modeler and
would like some insight please. I add the fetch to a table object and
in the fetch interface select the 'SQL' tab. Under this tab I click
the 'Use Stored Procedures' toggle and see all SPROCs. I try to select
the one I w
For some reason the WSDL from D2WS isn't as well done as .NET users
need. For this reason I've made this little How-To for them and it may
help others on this list to know. Here it is in short:
.NET INSTRUCTIONS FOR CONSUMING WO D2WS...
To more easily consume these services with .NET, you nee
We have been seriously investigating Hibernate.
No matter where in the world you are now. You might have heard me
crying!
I had the "pleasure" to be involved in a Hibernate project. I
wouldn't know where to start criticizing this whatever you want to
call it. I actually purged much of my
On Jun 15, 2007, at 23:01, Thierry Kramis wrote:
so regardeless what radius authentication server we use we can pick
jradius?
Probably. Back then I do not think radius was an valid option for our
RSA SecurID server. Perhaps they added radius later or the radius
support was in another prod
On 15.06.2007, at 14:06, Dov Rosenberg wrote:
Project Wonder should be incorporated into EOF/WO ASAP by Apple.
No, it shouldn't. They should take some of the ideas and add them to
the core, but they should definitely not "integrate Wonder". Wonder
is a huge framework maintained by a commun
On 13-Jun-07, at 1:58 PM, Ralf Schuchardt wrote:
Am 12.06.2007 um 18:57 schrieb Rick Innis:
From some previous searching I believe this may be connected to
the fact that the applications affected are both localized, so the
template it's looking exists in Contents/Resources/
{French,Englis
I think the WO community is a very strong one. I have been using WO since
1996. While Hibernate has a big learning curve to it it has also made a
lot of forward progress in comparison to EOF. There are still a lot of
things I like about EOF including having a centralized place to look for
model i
so regardeless what radius authentication server we use we can pick
jradius?
Am 15.06.2007 um 22:56 schrieb Tore Halset:
Hello.
A couple of years ago I had to create an ugly jini binding to the
securid c-library. Later we switched to Vasco and connect to the
authentication server using j
Hello.
A couple of years ago I had to create an ugly jini binding to the
securid c-library. Later we switched to Vasco and connect to the
authentication server using jradius.
Regards,
- Tore.
On Jun 13, 2007, at 16:28, Thierry Kramis wrote:
Have to clarify this: RAS SecurID...
Am 13.06
On 15-Jun-07, at 12:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. Is EOF going to support JPA (Java Persistence Architecture)
anytime soon?
2. Is direct support for connection pooling going to be implemented?
3. Any word on open source status?
We have been seriously investigating Hibernate. Hibernate
I was just lookin into ajax grid example. We've built something
similiar, apart from some differences. But what we didn't get our row
selection to be ajax capable. Who would we do this? Presently we are
working with checkboxes. but selection a checkbox results in a normal
action > page refr
At 11:42 AM -0700 6/15/07, Chuck Hill wrote:
The move would not be easy but in light of the lack of news I don't
think we have a lot of choice from a business perspective.
... if this is a big deal for you, or your company, it might be worth
the investment of a trip to Cupertino to talk to peo
I don't think that what was not mentioned is under NDA so...
On Jun 15, 2007, at 11:17 AM, Dov Rosenberg wrote:
I am curious about a few things that perhaps people can comment on:
1. Is EOF going to support JPA (Java Persistence Architecture)
anytime soon?
2. Is direct support for connecti
Well that is good to know. With all the non-news, and quite frankly
disappointing news, I had no desire to spend the money and the time
to go.
However, with this bit of news, I will definitely attend next year.
On Jun 15, 2007, at 2:34 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
On Jun 15, 2007, at 9:52 AM, Mar
On Jun 15, 2007, at 9:52 AM, Mark Ritchie wrote:
On 12-Jun-07, at 12:24 PM, netBrackets wrote:
Without giving any technical details, can you state whether you're:
A. More excited about WO than before the session.
B. Less excited about WO than before the session.
C. About the same.
A++ for th
I am curious about a few things that perhaps people can comment on:
1. Is EOF going to support JPA (Java Persistence Architecture) anytime soon?
2. Is direct support for connection pooling going to be implemented?
3. Any word on open source status?
We have been seriously investigating Hibernate.
Well having devoted three full years with WebObjects I am finally
feeling ok with my decision. Don't get me wrong the learning curve
was steep,
however, I had a secret weapon back in the first six months... this
list and Chuck.
I too now have a very nice success story with WebObjects. And,
The session list is never complete when first posted; I don't think
they make that very clear, but they add things all the time. There
are even new sessions announced the night before sometimes. So It's
best to make the assumption that there will be something for just
about everyone.
B
Hi,
a lot of people wants to know what's the deal with the WOWODC
recording. Like Chuck said a couple of days ago, we had some
problems, and we need to check out what we will do. For people who
attended the conference, yes you will get some material, so don't
worry about that.
I will
This is obviously a challenge we have w/ the Ajax.framework as well.
I met a couple people who asked questions about this at WWDC, and I
would be very interested in having people who have experience with
accessibility issues try out the framework and make recommendations
to us on what reas
When Apple first posted the sessions for WWDC, it looked like there
would be absolutely nothing at all about WebObjects at the developers
conference (I was under the impression that this was the major
impetus for WOWODC). So after WOWODC, I opted to skip WWDC and head
back home. I am now
At 8:14 AM -0500 6/12/07, James Cicenia wrote:
Can we at least get a nugget like..
things are happening?
same as it always is.. nothing new.. just opensource.
We just finished the WebObjects Feedback session, about forty
questions and suggestions to the Apple people up front
Hmm, I think I can only go so far as A+ - I guess I am just not as
exuberant as Mark and Pierre. Call it understated happiness. :)
janine
On Jun 15, 2007, at 10:09 AM, Pierre Bernard wrote:
A++
On Jun 15, 2007, at 9:52 AM, Mark Ritchie wrote:
I have read this and I think it might be of more general interest in
the wider web community. It is a bit academic, but is not too long.
It is only 8 pages.
It describes the challenges of accessibility in Ajax-ified web pages.
Web pages are no longer linear and static and this provides a
A++
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On 12-Jun-07, at 12:24 PM, netBrackets wrote:
Without giving any technical details, can you state whether you're:
A. More excited about WO than before the session.
B. Less excited about WO than before the session.
C. About the same.
Just to be clear, I'm A++
NDA precludes further specific comme
Project Wonder's ERXInlineTemplate with inline bindings enabled ...
ms
On Jun 15, 2007, at 1:15 AM, Cedarstone wrote:
Hi
We have a WO application that uses components to return strings to
certain sections of a web page, pretty standard stuff. However now
we would like to be able to embed
Hi, is there a way to merge a Direct to Web and a Direct to Web Services
project so as to provide both interfaces to user while keeping the
assistants to change/tune/upgrade the web application functionalities?
I am developing an in-house application and I need a fast way to develop
the data mana
Hi
As I guessed it looks like the hooks are there already. Looks like
WOComponent.templateWithHTMLString might be the starting point.
Giles
Hi
We have a WO application that uses components to return strings to
certain sections of a web page, pretty standard stuff. However now
we woul
Hi
We have a WO application that uses components to return strings to
certain sections of a web page, pretty standard stuff. However now
we would like to be able to embed variables within those strings that
get evaluated at runtime, essentially turning them into mini
templates. We don't
Am 15.06.2007 um 09:13 schrieb Andrus Adamchik:
Once WO got cheap, it didn't make any sense for those consultants
to continue to push it. Imagine how many of the big 5 accounting
firms would drop SAP if SAP where $249.95 ?
Still the idea that the price drop caused WO being squeezed out of
Application application = (Application)Application.application();
That should work but if it doesn't just check your imports to make
sure the Application is coming out of the correct package - class
cast sounds like you may have the wrong Application imported. It
should be coming from com
On Jun 14, 2007, at 10:15 AM, Mark Morris wrote:
I also had the impression that WO was taken more seriously when it
had high-end pricing. Interesting, isn't it?
I find this to be generally true in our business; the more a client
pays us, the more respectfully they treat us and the easier
The only way WebObjects was really usable was when consultants with
experience and skills brought it into a company and applied it's
capabilities intelligently.
Being a WO consultant myself, I agree on this.
Once WO got cheap, it didn't make any sense for those consultants
to continue to p
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