Re: Community Wish List

2006-09-07 Thread James Cicenia
I was thinking that a Dreamweaver plugin would make WebObjects more corporate friendly. Maybe there is a second tier company that would like to step up to the plate... Softpress' Freeway or such? Seems like it could be in their best interest too.- JamesOn Sep 6, 2006, at 5:41 PM, Thomas wrote:I'd b

Re: Community Wish List [WO Builder Replacement]

2006-09-07 Thread Ricardo Strausz
Nice job Marc... thanks! Dino On Sep 7, 2006, at 9:13, Marc Oesch wrote: Hello, I just tried to collect the ideas of the past few days here: http://www.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOL/WO+Builder+Ideas and http://www.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOL/WO+Builder+Tasks The second pa

Re: Community Wish List [WO Builder Replacement]

2006-09-07 Thread Marc Oesch
Hello, I just tried to collect the ideas of the past few days here: http://www.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOL/WO+Builder+Ideas and http://www.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOL/WO+Builder+Tasks The second page is mostly empty at this time for obvious reasons...I hope this will chang

Re: Community Wish List

2006-09-07 Thread Garrick McFarlane
4 the BBC: "the WOComunity wooed all e-commerce consumers with their amazing open source tools" ... not to mention that our news and sport web sites are entirely produced using those self-same family of tools. Rgds Garrick McFarlane Technical Lead, Content Production System BBC News, Londo

Re: Community Wish List

2006-09-07 Thread Simon Mclean
On 6 Sep 2006, at 23:41, Thomas wrote:We need an editor that, like WOBuilder, displays the organisation of the component, not the way it will be rendered in a browser.+1 ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mail

Re: Community Wish List

2006-09-06 Thread Ricardo Strausz
I really like WOVE for the visual editor, and for the whole set of tools, a good one would be simply WOO or WOOS (with several obvious meanings); so we could use sentences like the following. 4 developers: "woo your clients!" 4 clients: "woo your web-visitors!" 4 the BBC: "the WOComunity wooe

Re: Community Wish List

2006-09-06 Thread David Sanchez
My humble opinion, All WO technology, should be integrated into something that I would like to call: /web "slash web" David Sánchez On Sep 6, 2006, at 8:26 PM, James Cicenia wrote: WOOD Web Objects Oriented Development lol On Sep 6, 2006, at 6:59 PM, Ricardo Strausz wrote: dire

Re: Community Wish List

2006-09-06 Thread James Cicenia
WOODWeb Objects Oriented DevelopmentlolOn Sep 6, 2006, at 6:59 PM, Ricardo Strausz wrote: direct.. "wove": Web Objects View EditorUse wove to weave your web :) WOve could be better stated as Web Objects Visual Editor, but I wentwith the MVC bit initially. +1"All you need is wove, la la la la la"+1

Re: Community Wish List

2006-09-06 Thread Ricardo Strausz
direct.. "wove": Web Objects View Editor Use wove to weave your web :) WOve could be better stated as Web Objects Visual Editor, but I went with the MVC bit initially. +1"All you need is wove, la la la la la"+1 Dino ___ Do not post admin requests to

Re: Community Wish List

2006-09-06 Thread Thomas
On 07/09/2006, at 9:14, Paul Lynch wrote: To be honest, I could lose the visual web page builder aspect of WOBuilder, so long as this side is preserved. Of course, I would rather not. I heavily rely on the visual display of the relationships of the components on the page: this is inside

Re: Community Wish List

2006-09-06 Thread Thomas
Well said on both counts. On 07/09/2006, at 9:02, Jerry W. Walker wrote: The WOBuilder replacement should, however, have a Source and Layout view and allow the same (or better) ease of switching back and forth between the two views with selections of components from either view carrying in

Re: Community Wish List

2006-09-06 Thread Paul Lynch
On 7 Sep 2006, at 00:02, Jerry W. Walker wrote: I also think WOBuilder's object browser is valuable. The ability to see the keys of the WOComponent Java class file (and the Session and Application class files) and be able to visually link them to the subcomponent and element bindings is gr

Re: Community Wish List

2006-09-06 Thread Jerry W. Walker
On Sep 6, 2006, at 6:41 PM, Thomas wrote: I'd be happy to contribute the fee previously discussed, and contribute my time for design discussions and testing of the WOBuilder replacement. But we do NOT need a WYSIWYG WOBuilder replacement. We need an editor that, like WOBuilder, displays th

Re: Community Wish List

2006-09-06 Thread Thomas
I'd be happy to contribute the fee previously discussed, and contribute my time for design discussions and testing of the WOBuilder replacement.But we do NOT need a WYSIWYG WOBuilder replacement.We need an editor that, like WOBuilder, displays the organisation of the component, not the way it will

Re: Community Wish List

2006-09-06 Thread Simon Mclean
- a plugin for DreamWeaver (akin to the Lasso plugin)Personally, I don't want to buy & learn this.+1- a Eclipse pluginThat could work, I don't know what useful support there is.Has anyone used eZingBuilder ? it's a wysiwyg html editor eclipse plugin for tapestry.http://ezingbuilder.sourceforge.net

Re: Community Wish List

2006-09-06 Thread Chuck Hill
On Sep 5, 2006, at 3:33 PM, Joe Little wrote: direct.. "wove": Web Objects View Editor Use wove to weave your web :) WOve could be better stated as Web Objects Visual Editor, but I went with the MVC bit initially. +1 -- Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their

Re: Community Wish List

2006-09-06 Thread Chuck Hill
On Sep 6, 2006, at 8:25 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: Le 06-09-04, à 18:00, M. Blanc a écrit : On 4 Sep 2006, at 17:28, Marc Oesch wrote: And I wanted to ask if anybody is actually thinking about a replacement for WOBuilder or already working on it ? We should also make a list of how it can be d

Re: Community Wish List

2006-09-06 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 06-09-04, à 18:00, M. Blanc a écrit : On 4 Sep 2006, at 17:28, Marc Oesch wrote: And I wanted to ask if anybody is actually thinking about a replacement for WOBuilder or already working on it ? We should also make a list of how it can be done. I think the options are : - a plugin fo

Re: Community Wish List

2006-09-06 Thread Marc Oesch
Hello, So WOBuilder... maybe we should create a fund for it? James That was an idea I was going to post :) Sure we can wait for Apple to release more information as announced in their e-mail. So there is a wishlist - as mbj already started - where everyone might collect their top wishes - or

Re: Community Wish List

2006-09-05 Thread James Cicenia
I personally believe there should be a stack that includes Wonder... so I am sticking with my two: Wonderland Wonderlust at least people will "wonder" and not feel "woe". And all the lipstick stuff... well... whatever. So WOBuilder... maybe we should create a fund for it? James On Sep 5, 200

Re: Re: Re: Community Wish List

2006-09-05 Thread Joe Little
On 9/5/06, Joe Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9/5/06, Karl Gretton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The only danger of using Eclipstick is that someone might come up > with something to suggest that we are trying to put lipstick on the > PIG...which WO clearly is NOT! > > I personally liked thi

Re: Re: Community Wish List

2006-09-05 Thread Joe Little
On 9/5/06, Karl Gretton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The only danger of using Eclipstick is that someone might come up with something to suggest that we are trying to put lipstick on the PIG...which WO clearly is NOT! I personally liked this cover: http://static.flickr.com/ 70/197986751_d4bd745e2c

Re: Community Wish List

2006-09-05 Thread Karl Gretton
The only danger of using Eclipstick is that someone might come up with something to suggest that we are trying to put lipstick on the PIG...which WO clearly is NOT! I personally liked this cover: http://static.flickr.com/ 70/197986751_d4bd745e2c_m.jpg We should surely come up with a .NET v

Re: Community Wish List

2006-09-05 Thread Chuck Hill
On Sep 4, 2006, at 3:00 PM, M. Blanc wrote: On 4 Sep 2006, at 17:28, Marc Oesch wrote: And I wanted to ask if anybody is actually thinking about a replacement for WOBuilder or already working on it ? I'm all for having babies –I personally had three, though my wife helped a lot– so I ca

Community Wish List

2006-09-04 Thread M. Blanc
On 4 Sep 2006, at 17:28, Marc Oesch wrote: And I wanted to ask if anybody is actually thinking about a replacement for WOBuilder or already working on it ? I'm all for having babies –I personally had three, though my wife helped a lot– so I can tell you from experience that the very first