Re: WebObjects documentation site

2007-09-04 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 07-09-04 à 03:14, Anjo Krank a écrit : Hi, can it be that the wiki(s) are still pretty much of a mess right now? - the old site at the wikibooks is still online, even after 2 month, no one knows if new stuff has been written there - there is only one note at the top of the first page tel

Re: WebObjects documentation site

2007-09-04 Thread Miguel Arroz
Hi! On 2007/09/04, at 08:14, Anjo Krank wrote: - there is only one note at the top of the first page telling people this stuff is deprecated, no redirect I find this one extremely important. Is it possible to deprecate an entire wikibook? Or lock it, not allowing modifications? Yours

Re: WebObjects documentation site

2007-09-04 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 07-09-04 à 05:03, Andrew Lindesay a écrit : Hello Anjo; Yes I tend to agree with you. I was quite impressed the old wiki material could be migrated and I'm sure the old stuff is there as a "just in case", but it would be sage to get the old material removed to avoid confusion. I mu

Re: WebObjects documentation site

2007-09-04 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 07-09-04 à 03:14, Anjo Krank a écrit : Hi, can it be that the wiki(s) are still pretty much of a mess right now? - the old site at the wikibooks is still online, even after 2 month, no one knows if new stuff has been written there So far, it seems only the Flex and XUL pages are new.

Re: WebObjects documentation site

2007-09-04 Thread Andrew Lindesay
Hello Anjo; Yes I tend to agree with you. I was quite impressed the old wiki material could be migrated and I'm sure the old stuff is there as a "just in case", but it would be sage to get the old material removed to avoid confusion. I am happy enough with any definitive community wiki,

Re: WebObjects documentation site

2007-09-04 Thread Anjo Krank
Hi, can it be that the wiki(s) are still pretty much of a mess right now? - the old site at the wikibooks is still online, even after 2 month, no one knows if new stuff has been written there - there is only one note at the top of the first page telling people this stuff is deprecated, no re

Re: [Wonder-disc] WebObjects documentation site

2007-07-09 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 07-07-09 à 08:17, Francis Labrie a écrit : Hi, Steven Mark McCraw: Over the course of the weekend, the WebObjects wikibook (at http:// en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:WebObjects) has been imported into the confluence wiki at objectstyle.org: http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/displ

Re: WebObjects documentation site

2007-07-09 Thread Francis Labrie
Hi, Steven Mark McCraw: Over the course of the weekend, the WebObjects wikibook (at http:// en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:WebObjects) has been imported into the confluence wiki at objectstyle.org: http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WO/Home This effort was the result of feed

Re: [Wonder-disc] WebObjects documentation site, sharing the load

2007-07-09 Thread Johan Henselmans
Great job! If the PDF export of confluence might start to work, we'd be able to crank out e-books, sell them via iTunes, and make $$$ for developing a WOBuilder replacement... On the other hand: I really appreciate the free gift of bandwidth and cpu that the people of Mdimension and Obje

Re: [Wonder-disc] WebObjects documentation site

2007-07-09 Thread Simon McLean
Cracking job Mark. At long last it is starting to feel like WO has a proper home on the internet... Simon On 8 Jul 2007, at 17:01, Steven Mark McCraw wrote: Hi All, Over the course of the weekend, the WebObjects wikibook (at http:// en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:WebObjects) has been imp

Re: [Wonder-disc] WebObjects documentation site

2007-07-08 Thread Q
Fantastic effort. There is going to be quite a bit of cleanup work to do, but it's a great start. Might be a good idea not to bookmark any of these new pages just yet, as I think many of them should probably be renamed to remove the Programming__ prefix. On 09/07/2007, at 2:01 AM, Steve

Re: WebObjects documentation site

2007-07-08 Thread Andrew Lindesay
Hello Steven; Here is a WikiBooks document; http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:WebObjects/ Web_Applications/Deployment/Tomcat_Deployment Here is the import into confluence; http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WO/ Programming__WebObjects-Web+Applications-Deployment-Tomca

Re: WebObjects documentation site

2007-07-08 Thread Steven Mark McCraw
Hi Andrew, When you say "typographical elements", what do you mean? Can you give me a specific example of what is different between the two wikis for the page you linked to (at first glance, I can't see any differences between the confluence wiki entry and the wikibook entry)? Also, I ha

Re: WebObjects documentation site

2007-07-08 Thread Andrew Lindesay
Hello Steven; Thanks for undertaking that migration. Unfortunately many of the typographical elements are broken in documents such as; http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WO/ Programming__WebObjects-EOF-Modeling-Entities As well as this, images are missing that were present in

Re: [Wonder-disc] WebObjects documentation site

2007-07-08 Thread Chuck Hill
Bravo! On Jul 8, 2007, at 9:01 AM, Steven Mark McCraw wrote: Hi All, Over the course of the weekend, the WebObjects wikibook (at http:// en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:WebObjects) has been imported into the confluence wiki at objectstyle.org: http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display

Re: WebObjects documentation site

2007-07-08 Thread Kieran Kelleher
Awesome. This is great! Finally a comprehensive community documentation collection. On Jul 8, 2007, at 12:01 PM, Steven Mark McCraw wrote: Hi All, Over the course of the weekend, the WebObjects wikibook (at http:// en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:WebObjects) has been imported into the c

Re: WebObjects documentation site

2007-07-08 Thread Steven Mark McCraw
Hi All, Over the course of the weekend, the WebObjects wikibook (at http:// en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:WebObjects) has been imported into the confluence wiki at objectstyle.org: http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WO/Home This effort was the result of feedback from many on

Re: WebObjects documentation site

2007-07-03 Thread Ian Joyner
Thanks Andrus, you'd be the guy to know. I see from the css that the fonts used are verdana and arial, both fonts that should be avoided, verdana for style and arial for the moral reason that it's a cheap rip off of helvetica so MS didn't have to pay licence fees. http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpo

Re: WebObjects documentation site

2007-07-03 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Jul 3, 2007, at 3:34 AM, Ian Joyner wrote: I appreciate the effort to provide a better level of documentation at the objectstyle confluence site. However, I'd have to say, I like the look of the wikibook a lot better (even though it wastes space on the LHS). Is it possible to give a con

Re: WebObjects documentation site

2007-07-02 Thread Ian Joyner
I appreciate the effort to provide a better level of documentation at the objectstyle confluence site. However, I'd have to say, I like the look of the wikibook a lot better (even though it wastes space on the LHS). Is it possible to give a confluence site a better look, or is this locked i

Re: WebObjects documentation site

2007-07-02 Thread Mike Schrag
You can dump the entire wikibook to an xml file and write an importer from the xml to confluence from that. ms On Jul 2, 2007, at 5:30 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: I used it to migrate from MediaWiki to Confluence, it works great. BUT, you need : - Access to the API (XML-RPC) of Confluence t

Re: WebObjects documentation site

2007-07-02 Thread Pascal Robert
I used it to migrate from MediaWiki to Confluence, it works great. BUT, you need : - Access to the API (XML-RPC) of Confluence to upload the converted files - Access to the database of the wiki source (MediaWiki or other) Wonder if this tool can help (Wikibooks is still MediaWiki, right)

Re: WebObjects documentation site

2007-07-02 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Wonder if this tool can help (Wikibooks is still MediaWiki, right) http://intient.com/wiki/index.php/Mediawiki_to_Confluence_Translator Andrus On Jul 2, 2007, at 11:18 PM, Andrew Lindesay wrote: Hello Mark; It would be good if there is an intention to extract and re-import the material at

Re: WebObjects documentation site

2007-07-02 Thread Andrew Lindesay
Hello Mark; It would be good if there is an intention to extract and re-import the material at some point. I keep some of my own general WO notes in there -- like this sort of content; http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:WebObjects/Web_Services/ Controlling_WSDL_Service_Location I

Re: WebObjects documentation site

2007-07-02 Thread Steven Mark McCraw
Andrew, I am sympathetic to your concerns. There has been some thought given to migrating the pages over, but there was also a large volume of concern expressed that the content be reorganized, so a straight programmatic migration doesn't seem to be what everyone wants. We expect most o

RE: WebObjects documentation site

2007-07-02 Thread Andrew Lindesay
Hello; Gee; that really is a shame because I've loaded quite a few pages into the Wikipedia books site. Can it be migrated over somehow? Given the volume of stuff there it may be worth just staying on the Wikipedia books site? cheers. . and should content be out here instead of wi

Re: [Wonder-disc] WebObjects documentation site

2007-07-02 Thread Steven Mark McCraw
Hi Kieran, Starting at the top (aka root, "dashboard") are these the final categories of info? http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/dashboard.action Really, these are more of a starting point. At the moment, we're kind of directing our efforts towards the WebObjects space (which shoul

Re: [Wonder-disc] WebObjects documentation site

2007-07-02 Thread Kieran Kelleher
Starting at the top (aka root, "dashboard") are these the final categories of info? http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/dashboard.action and do we need some little elaboration as to what goes where, especially with Wonder/WebObjects since both are involved in many of technology topi

Re: WebObjects documentation site

2007-07-02 Thread Kieran Kelleher
Steven, there is an example of this approach shown here where one of the links has no page yet... http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WONDER/Tutorials On Jul 2, 2007, at 10:45 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote: So maybe mark up the non-existent content in a Wiki way - by creating a link t

Re: WebObjects documentation site

2007-07-02 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Jul 2, 2007, at 5:34 PM, Steven Mark McCraw wrote: When you have chosen a topic that you want to write on, edit the entry for that topic and change the '**' on the end to '(under construction)'. As soon as you have your article in place, you can just remove the '(under construction)' f

WebObjects documentation site

2007-07-02 Thread Steven Mark McCraw
Hi all, A small group of people have begun to look into the problem of lack of good, easy to use documentation for WebObjects and wonder, and based on feedback from the developer lists, we have created spaces at http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WO/Home for the documentation.